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Lumbermouth posted:Anyone actually seen a Joymancer Jepetto out in the wild? We're coming up on the deadline and I haven't seen a single person play it. I still have my deck for that quest. I'm DesertBus#1367 on the America server, add me if you still need to do it and you'd like to borrow and play it or play against it or do a mirror match.
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Lumbermouth posted:Anyone actually seen a Joymancer Jepetto out in the wild? We're coming up on the deadline and I haven't seen a single person play it. I got offered him as my arena legendary once and got it done that way. 🥳
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Lumbermouth posted:Anyone actually seen a Joymancer Jepetto out in the wild? We're coming up on the deadline and I haven't seen a single person play it. I saw him once but the guy was about to lose so he conceded before I could kill him next turn. Fortunately you can finish the reward track without actually completing that quest.
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I can't believe I am playing this again. Since I am not in EU anymore I started a new account and went through the new player experience. If you are just getting into the game the DK starter deck and be transformed into Plague Control with only one extra Legendary and it's doing me very well for casual laddering: # 2x (1) Scarab Keychain 2x (1) Staff of the Primus 2x (2) Distressed Kvaldir 2x (2) Down with the Ship 1x (2) Frozen Over 2x (2) Kobold Miner 1x (2) Mining Casualties 2x (2) Necrotic Mortician 1x (3) Chillfallen Baron 1x (3) Plucky Paintfin 2x (3) Reap What You Sow 1x (4) Helya 2x (4) Skeleton Crew 2x (4) Tomb Traitor 2x (5) Burrow Buster 1x (8) The Primus 1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000 1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000 1x (4) Twin Module 1x (5) Perfect Module 2x (11) Chained Guardian 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss # AAECAfHhBAiH9gST+wXt/wX7gAb/lwaSoAbHpAb7qAYL9fcFgvgF8vgFu/kF6/8FyoMG0IMG9YwG85EGy58G4OUGAAED9bMGx6QG97MGx6QG6N4Gx6QGAAA= # The only legendary you need to craft is Zilliax who looks like he goes in every deck anyway. The Primus, Reska, Helya, The Guardians, and pretty much everything else come in the precon. There are lots of outs, the double Zilliax can net you 12 HP the turn you drop it and saving your Azurite Rats to bring back your Chained Guardians can net you a ton of health. Sometimes you luck out and get a Headless Horseman off of a Primus discovery and just win. It's definitely helped me get my foundations in what feels like like a very different game from when I last played. I started off getting really annoyed at Spell Mages but most of the time they seem to just whiff now, I am sure it will be worse when I get to higher ranks but rn it's pretty funny.
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Where is this DH nerf, anyway?
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Phrosphor posted:Plague DK I've been running nearly the same deck, but dropping the Necrotic Morticians and Frozen Over to complete the sets of Mining Casualties, Chillfall Barons, and Plucky Paintfins. The extra baron is outstanding for drawing into Helya faster because every plague that gets triggered before Helya is played doesn't get to endlessly recur, Mining Casualties is deceptively strong because it's only 2 mana to trade with an X/4 while also lowering Reska's cost by 4, and the extra Paintfin makes it more reliable to get your strongest cards in Reska, Zilliax, and Chained Guardians as well as the Burrow Busters to hit your legendary excavate ASAP. Reliably getting Reska in your hand and playable early via both Mining Casualties and Paintfin can be clutch against the virus rogue deck, as stealing a random minion is one of the few counters the deck has for a stealth attack-doubling Zilliax (other than 2x of either Tomb Traitors or Collapse from excavation).
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Shockeh posted:Where is this DH nerf, anyway? I think it's tomorrow with the battlegrounds patch?
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The night before the executioner's axe Duels is loving hopping. Where were you people before? 
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Apr 16, 2024 01:21
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If you have an active run when the music stops you get a free tavern ticket out of it so i imagine everyone's playing to 2 losses for value, i know I did this week.
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Apr 16, 2024 02:10
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Looks like Blizzard figured people were getting too much free gold from the rewards track so they could get packs and expansions for free and go basically F2P. One way to counter that, is apparently to triple the requirements for weekly XP quests (and increasing the reward by ~25%, but if you don't have the time to finish them in the first place, this increase is meaningless).   Those weeklies were Edit: my bad, not "doozy". I meant the opposite. mcbexx fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Apr 16, 2024 |
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Apr 16, 2024 18:52
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"a doozy to clear" is certainly a way to put having to win five whole games over the course of a week
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Apr 16, 2024 19:00
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Who even has time to play 2 battleground games every single day let alone win 2 a day? At 50% win rate that's over 4 battlegrounds matches every day.
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Apr 16, 2024 19:06
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I could see people grinding out the wins on brawls as there are often broken decks with t1-3 finishers.
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Apr 16, 2024 19:16
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And the "play X Miniaturize/Mini cards" is currently set to 60. That was already a mission I always refreshed because I don't have enough good Miniaturize cards to bother with it, but screw that. And yeah, you could grind these quests out if you want to, but that's just more Heathstone than I want to play in a week.
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Apr 16, 2024 19:20
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They also keep killing decks that actually play Mini cards. That quest was doable with Handbuff Pally and Window Shopper DH but now, uhhh, Sleet Skaters?
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Apr 16, 2024 19:23
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Apr 16, 2024 20:25
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I don’t mind them tinkering with the values on quests — I actually think the weeklies are a little too easy to clear — but it doesn’t look like they put much thought into their number adjustments. The least they could have done is make the rewards proportional to the increased input.
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Apr 16, 2024 20:29
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Maybe it's deliberately tuned too high so that people will be more ok with the final numbers. They've done this enough times that my thoughts just go conspiratorial at this point
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Apr 16, 2024 20:51
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I seriously doubt they want this overshadowing the Battlegrounds patch or Duos mode. It’s just something that wasn’t fully thought-through and communicated poorly.
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Apr 16, 2024 21:25
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Well at least you can give Blizzard more money for the meme Boulderfist Ogre skin in the shop EDIT: Actually it comes with 5 packs and a card back so I guess you could say it has good RatHat fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Apr 16, 2024 |
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Luff posted:Maybe it's deliberately tuned too high so that people will be more ok with the final numbers. They've done this enough times that my thoughts just go conspiratorial at this point Seems likely. If they cut the reqs in half they'll have only increased the amount of work by 50% while increasing the rewards by 30%! Still a win on their end and it almost seems reasonable!
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I don't know if it's bugged or just a really powerful skill, but the new 5* Naga's spellcraft to give the stats of a minion in the tavern to a random minion doesn't go away after thr turn ends.
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GTO posted:I could see people grinding out the wins on brawls as there are often broken decks with t1-3 finishers. It's just too dependent on the particular brawl. It's the kind of thing that would range from maybe 30 minutes of play to several hours, and the longer ones tend to be the less fun ones too.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:I don't know if it's bugged or just a really powerful skill, but the new 5* Naga's spellcraft to give the stats of a minion in the tavern to a random minion doesn't go away after thr turn ends. That's intentional from what I heard. I'm not sure how they thought it was ok to have Fluidity in the game with that minion during testing and didn't remove it until after the patch was out. It looks like Jandice is still in, so I'm going to try getting a pair of them up to a couple of thousand stats by selling off the rest of my board.
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They need to just delete Brann already. Either you have pretty specifically Helya and another plague card before turn 6, or you just automatically lose to infinite value that you have no ability to do anything about. Reno’s honestly fine! But O have no idea how they thought Brann was going to be okay.
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The Lord of Hats posted:They need to just delete Brann already. Either you have pretty specifically Helya and another plague card before turn 6, or you just automatically lose to infinite value that you have no ability to do anything about. Reno’s honestly fine! But O have no idea how they thought Brann was going to be okay. Well most of this thread hates Plague DK for existing because it ruins Warrior’s lunch. Imo I agree with you, there should be *even more* counters for that bullshit.
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The best counter to Brann is better and more efficient Brann. I reserve the right to redact this opinion at any point in the next 2 years.
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Brann is fun. Edit: Plagues are also fun. I think the biggest problem, and I'm not sure if that has been a problem for much longer than last expansion, but the matchups are often just polarizing. You queue up with Brann warrior into plagues or wheelock? You might as well just concede. You queue up with Wheelock into Hunter? Concede button is right there. Oenis fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Apr 17, 2024 |
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Yeah I've heard it called a rock - paper - scissors meta before. It's like, almost amazing but just not quite once you work out the matchups. The DH nerf will shake the whole thing up though.
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maybe the change to quests and rewards wasn't all bad
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GTO posted:The best counter to Brann is better and more efficient Brann. This is true. Second best is to pressure them enough that they can't play a 6 mana 2/4.
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After downloading this game again for the first time in many years, I got absolutely stomped in every game with the freebie decks I got thrown at me, most memorably by some absolutely nonsense priest dragon deck that gives you a second turn? Very memorable, even fun, but no I don't feel like learning this game again, uninstalled again
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Luff posted:Maybe it's deliberately tuned too high so that people will be more ok with the final numbers. They've done this enough times that my thoughts just go conspiratorial at this point Nailed it Do they think players don’t remember that they keep doing this?
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quote:We had seen that many players routinely completed their Weekly Quests through their regular play, without even really engaging with the Weekly Quest system. I think they'd be surprised what my "regular play" looks like without the weekly quest system
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Also the only time they mentioned they were doing this in the last patch notes was in the bulleted list at the bottom beneath all the random bugfixes, so they had to know that people weren't going to like this. If they thought we would, they would have mentioned it literally anywhere people would notice.
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The only way their statement could have any credulity would be if the rewards had been increased anywhere near proportionately to the increased completion requirements. We all know why they made this change, and it's pretty funny to see them have to defend it without saying that.
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I mean they clearly made the change because they wanted people to have to spend more time playing the game to do quests, and that's what they're saying they did
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Just make the weeklies a tiered system. For instance, play 12/18/24 miniature/mini cards for 2500/3600/4800 XP. They clear and credit the XP either if you maxed it out or when the quests reset on Sunday. Fudge the numbers a bit until it looks right and fair. But I guess that's too hard to code for the lone remaining intern.
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I haven't played in a while and didn't feel like I played that much when I did, but weeklies were a little undertuned. Like I could play Hearthstone while I drank my coffee before work for 2, maybe 3 days in a row, and easily knock them all out. The change is a stupid overcorrection though. Could have like halved that increase and it would have been sensible.
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They would be fine if they were to just play 15 games but winning 15 isn’t a trivial ask for a casual player
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