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This is a feedback thread for me to find out what people think about how PSP is doing, both the wrestling side and the MMA side. So please, let me know how you feel about the forum. Let me know how you think it's doing. Let me know what you like about it. Let me know what you'd like to see from it. And, if there's something you wouldn't mind seeing change, let me know that too. As always, if you don't want to post in the thread, feel free to shoot me a private message.
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yea ok posted:I would like some moderators on the wrestling side who are actually active in this subforum and community. That’s about it I think. The rest kicks big rear end. Rarity posted:Totally agree with this. I also think the AEW thread could benefit from more use of chill out for a mo sixers to help from from going off the rails as much as it does Thanlis posted:This 100%. I think the mods do a good job but are probably not around enough. There were about 1000 posts in this week's AEW thread in the first 24 hours it was posted. It was entirely about the show and the backstage news, but that's a lot of posting. Bringing in someone who is (a) specifically around for the high volume times of posting and (b) follows the AEW threads is definitely something on our minds.
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Aug 27, 2022 21:40
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Oh, that reminds me. A little while back, there was discussion in the feedback thread about the subforum having a bit of a 'bad vibes' problem that people were having difficulty pinning down. How do people feel things have gone since then? Better? Worse?
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Aug 27, 2022 21:42
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STAC Goat posted:Yeah, I don't think there's some "side" of this that is right or wrong. Its not AEW fans vs AEW haters or something. Its just a lot of people who's first instinct is to insult someone or can't scroll past a conversation they're not interested in without making a passive aggressive slight or just can't handle disagreement without losing it. And yeah, a lot of posters who do love yelling and insulting people also really don't like it when it comes back on them to any degree. And I dunno. Either that chills out or it doesn't. But I didn't know what the solution to making hundreds of people chill out was then and I don't know now. Yes. It does seem that, beyond any moderator action, there needs to be a sort of mutual community-side decision to chill out. From reading your discussion with gumball gumption it feels like you've both taken this initiative, and that many other people have too. I guess one of the hopes might be with a few moderator nudges here and there, that process might be easier. Is that a fair read?
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Aug 27, 2022 22:57
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Brut posted:Make every single poster in the AEW thread a thread IK of the AEW thread and everything will be fine thanks to mutually assured sixer destruction. Something Awful's
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Aug 27, 2022 23:25
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I'm interested in this discussion, and maybe I can contribute that, from a moderating perspective, one of the issues is that near-everyone sees their own aggression (or dunking, especially dunking) as righteous. It means that people are constantly asking you that their own posts are exceptions to the rule, often paired with a request to punish their posting enemies.
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Aug 27, 2022 23:43
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One thing that gives me pause is that there's a broad agreement that there needs to be more moderation, but also that the main thing that needs to be moderated is low-level animosity. That's going to require a level of acceptance from posters. Moderating low-level animosity involves a lot of judgement calls for when things are trending in the wrong direction, and taking action on things that feel wrong but can be hard to pin down. e: speaking further about buy-in, the fact that most everyone these days is at least in the 30s-40s range, around the clock moderation is going to be hard to come by just because the most steady people will likely also have steady hours and commitments. But also, people shouldn't need that level of constant moderation. Everyone is an adult, and should be able to be trusted to act reasonably.
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Aug 28, 2022 16:09
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Quantum of Phallus posted:so when we getting some new mods huh I think the timeline is something like the following: (1) I will post my mostly-concluding thoughts tonight but leave the thread open for a couple days in case anybody who hasn't been around has anything to say (2) Consult with other people on possible mods (3) Maybe I go play a chess tournament somewhere, that could add a couple days to the process (4) We start asking people to be mod. Sometimes this takes awhile. One time we made it through our entire 'to ask' list without someone saying yes.
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Aug 29, 2022 21:17
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Okay, here's roughly how I see things right now: (1) The AEW wrestling threads are tremendously popular right now, especially in the immediate 24 hours after Dynamite. There were ~40 pages this week, thanks to Mox-Punk and the backstage news. This is good, but it's also a lot of posting to keep an eye on. (2) There's a simmering bad vibes/cliquishness problem that isn't particularly severe, but it's present enough for most people to notice. (3) The main change is going to be to try add another person with buttons (mod or IK, though I prefer a mod) who is reliably online when AEW is on and the day after. They won't necessarily be AEW-dedicated, but that's obviously the top priority since that's where all the posting is. (4) It sounds like most people are putting in a self-conscious effort of being less aggro or less cliquey. That's good. One thing I noted, though, is that people would occasionally say that there were righteous exceptions, and being more aggressive was good. An issue with this is that people often think their own aggression (or dunking or mockery or whatever) is the righteous exception, and never anyone else's. I guess that's just something to keep in mind when posting, and deciding that you yourself is in the right. A bunch of posters specifically mentioned that one of the reasons they wanted a new mod was to nudge them when they were going too far. That's fine, though I think that everyone is at an age where they should be expected to act responsibly themselves. (5) Relatedly, a new mod will also have to be treated with patience, both as they figure out the best way to act by trial and error and also as posters get told to simmer down more than they're used to. Again, this is the sort of thing where people's best judgement should be enough. So yeah. Wrestling is in a good spot now so posts are way up. We'll work to bring in a new mod. Be excellent to each other and accepting of difference.
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Aug 30, 2022 00:29
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I'm not entirely clear on what's going on, but whatever's happening seemed to escalate pretty quickly. The initial question and discussion, about the post about Moxley being bad, was interesting to me because it was a good look at what a bunch of posters thought about what was and was not an issue. Here's a post that was dealt with kind of harshly, here's why some people thought that was fine. What's kinda vexing to me is how the discussion of that managed to take off into some slapfight so quickly.
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Sep 2, 2022 00:13
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Walla posted:Doesn't seem that hard to understand. Dude asked why someone who admitted to liking Cornette got driven away for posting a horrible Cornette take and then accused everyone involved of horrible conspiracy posting and being horrible scrotes. For some reason the people being called horrible scrotes took offense to it. I get the person coming in to the thread with a dodgy opinion. I see that happen in the other sports threads plenty, someone comes in and shares one of those opinions we associate with the bad internet Out There. And they get dunked on and made fun of, all in due course, but I don't see it escalate like in here. I guess this goes back to what I mentioned earlier, about being more patient and tolerant. That doesn't mean you have to treat every bad opinion with hugs and love (though, I mean, we did all come from somewhere ourselves), but rather that someone being dumb and wrong isn't the end of the world. And even if the other person escalates first (and most people will always believe the other person escalates first), that doesn't mean you have to respond in kind.
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Sep 2, 2022 02:20
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Quantum of Phallus posted:for the love of god, stop the drat match and give us new mods!!!! I have stopped the drat match, and will make an announcement when there are new mods.
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Sep 2, 2022 12:57
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After careful consideration and consulting with many parties, I am pleased to announce PSP's new mods: Ganso Bomb and Critical
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Sep 2, 2022 23:40
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Rarity posted:Personally I would be down for more literary analysis. Give me essays about how Cody Rhodes's journey is analogous to the struggles of America's manufacturing industries, I will lap that poo poo up I like this stuff too. I also like the weekly threads. In part because I like the threads starting with the summary of dynamite, but also in part because I think it helps keep the forum fresh.
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Oct 28, 2022 15:26
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What's the deal with Jim Cornette and, I guess, in turn, the history and evolution of the Jim Cornette containment thread?
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Mekchu posted:this subforum doesn't need that many mods When we added two more mods about a year ago the main concern wasn't so much button pressing but rather just having people online during the high posting periods after dynamite. The concern isn't that "there's a ton of out of control behaviour we need to police," but rather "it's nice to have people around at these times."
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