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What’s the Infinite Jest of video games?
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Oct 1, 2022 01:09
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hatty posted:What’s the Infinite Jest of video games? xenosaga
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Oct 1, 2022 01:15
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Personally I think the written word is overrated, the greek philosophers were right when they said that society lost something when we didn't recite poems from memory anymore In a better world people would memorize games byte by byte, and recite them in sequence to an eager new generation
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Oct 1, 2022 01:27
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Gaius Marius posted:I was gonna post the Deus Ex Recut as a joke. But the real opening to the game is actually a great example. The zoom in and zoom out on page’s eye is p funny
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Oct 1, 2022 01:53
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Jay Rust posted:Gimme some of these cutscenes, friend. People are always posting their fave video game songs, let's do cinematic now Every cutscene in Koudelka
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Oct 1, 2022 02:44
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hatty posted:What’s the Infinite Jest of video games? Octopath Traveler
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Oct 1, 2022 02:49
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I like FFXIV but I'm sorry, a lot of the cutscenes are stiff and wordy Less stiff and wordy than some other ongoing games (*cough* Genshin Impact) but still, I think that's a fair assessment. It's understandable why it's that way and why they have to be so wordy or repetitive with exposition sometimes, and they do the best they can with the voice acting to try to inject some life into things, but all but the most centerpiece cutscenes really are people standing around doing repeated emotes and talking. Again I like FFXIV but the story presentation has a ton of room to improve. I mean if we're grading on a curve it does better than any other MMORPG that tries to have an ongoing narrative but that's not a particularly high bar.
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Oct 1, 2022 02:51
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Gaius Marius posted:I was gonna post the Deus Ex Recut as a joke. But the real opening to the game is actually a great example. Contrast this with the intro for the PS2 version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_al2NCcfUoQ It adapts the cinematic aspirations of the original version, but frames it more like everything is being shown through video feeds. I think it loses something in the process, IMO the music and pacing is much better in the PC version, but it would've been nice if the PC intro had NPCs that weren't so stiff. But eh... that's just part of the charm.
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Oct 1, 2022 02:53
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oldschool runescape has better writing but the type of gamer thaht plays ff14 is too much of a coward to ever find out
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Oct 1, 2022 02:54
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instead of 20 hours of cutscenes you have to spend 200 hours grinding your agility skill to reach the level requirement for the next quest
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Oct 1, 2022 02:56
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Stux posted:oldschool runescape has better writing but the type of gamer thaht plays ff14 is too much of a coward to ever find out oldschool everquest has better writing than OSRS by a country mile, sorry
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Oct 1, 2022 02:56
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:instead of 20 hours of cutscenes you have to spend 200 hours grinding your agility skill to reach the level requirement for the next quest and thats precisily why its better on all counts. osrs ftw.
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Oct 1, 2022 02:57
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I haven't played ffxiv but the FF thread OP rates it as the best Final Fantasy and therefore should be gassed
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Oct 1, 2022 03:04
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yeah we all know it's the second best, after ff8
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Oct 1, 2022 03:06
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Stux posted:oldschool runescape has better writing but the type of gamer thaht plays ff14 is too much of a coward to ever find out 
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Oct 1, 2022 03:10
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Stux posted:and thats precisily why its better on all counts. osrs ftw. grinding isn't fun if you can do it by turning on an autoclicker and leaving your mouse on one spot on the screen on the bright side doing that will pretty quickly get you banned from OSRS
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Oct 1, 2022 03:12
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u cannot run agility courses with your mouse in one spot on the screen. myth busted.
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Oct 1, 2022 03:14
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Actually the best Final Fantasy is FF9 You have to say that in this thread or else Rarity will make sure you never post again
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Oct 1, 2022 03:24
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Feldegast42 posted:Actually the best Final Fantasy is FF9 lucky it’s just the truth then.
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Oct 1, 2022 03:26
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I like the cutscene in FF14 when you are trying to distract a cop from the box of TNT your pals brought to the beach and you send a lady to distract him with questions and he's like "good idea, lets go over by this box. Also I'm going to light this lantern because its getting a bit dark"
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Oct 1, 2022 03:27
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Feldegast42 posted:Actually the best Final Fantasy is FF9 good
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Oct 1, 2022 03:27
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Stux posted:also the things it can do as an mmo are like, actively hated by tons of ppl who post about it. people saying about how cool it is you can do dungeons with ai, or that you can play the game as a long single player game. its the least mmo mmo, very fail. I think it is legitimately unique and kinda cool that FFXIV being an MMO lets it tell a long-running story in a way it couldn't if it was a single-player game. It does really need some editing for brevity. Having a lot of words isn't inherently bad but it isn't inherently good, either, and I think FFXIV would be better if it cut out some of the repetition and exposition, and it can do that without losing any of what it does well.
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Oct 1, 2022 03:27
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Stux posted:u cannot run agility courses with your mouse in one spot on the screen. myth busted. sorry uh pretend i said training combat in the nightmare zone or something
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Oct 1, 2022 03:28
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hatty posted:What’s the Infinite Jest of video games? e: serious answer is YIIK
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Oct 1, 2022 03:38
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Pwnstar posted:I like the cutscene in FF14 when you are trying to distract a cop from the box of TNT your pals brought to the beach and you send a lady to distract him with questions and he's like "good idea, lets go over by this box. Also I'm going to light this lantern because its getting a bit dark" https://clips.twitch.tv/RealLazyRatNerfRedBlaster-XUPy6V2Thm3myca_
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Oct 1, 2022 03:46
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ff14's story is good since through a series of coincidences SE let a writer from a much more interesting company write multiple headlining games for them
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Oct 1, 2022 03:48
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I wish I could play the piano like that
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Oct 1, 2022 03:58
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The 7th Guest posted:umineko: when they cry Umineko is it's own thing but is more in league with And Then There Were None, Osamu Dazai's No Longer Human, Dante's Divine Comedy, Goethe's Faust, Nabokov's Pale Fire and Ada, or Ardor, and a bunch of other things that are too spoilery to say YIIK seems to disingenuous to be the Infinite Jest of games.
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Oct 1, 2022 04:07
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Ah, poo poo, this lead me to rewatch the end of Day 2 again with Soken's announcement. 
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Oct 1, 2022 04:09
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Harrow posted:I think it is legitimately unique and kinda cool that FFXIV being an MMO lets it tell a long-running story in a way it couldn't if it was a single-player game. doesnt trails actually just do it in a single player game tho. dunno if this holds at all i think they just want sub money.
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Oct 1, 2022 04:15
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Stux posted:doesnt trails actually just do it in a single player game tho. dunno if this holds at all i think they just want sub money. Trails does but doing it in an MMO (or I guess a gacha game, these days) is a pretty different structure, where you can have another major story chapter every three to four months rather than having to only do it in full game installments. Though clearly they also definitely do want sub money. The reason for the game's existence is that it makes a lot of subscription money, it's just that they also use the format to tell a story in a way they couldn't in a different format.
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Oct 1, 2022 04:21
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Fallen London does the same thing. Without the bad multiplayer attached.
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Oct 1, 2022 04:23
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Oh yeah it's definitely not the only game to have ever done it. Lots of mobile games do it, too. Genshin Impact, for example (with even worse stilted, stiff, interminable cutscenes without even the courtesy of a skip button) edit: I guess I did say "unique" in my first post, thought in my defense I threw that word in there completely thoughtlessly, wait what do you mean that's not a defense Harrow fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Oct 1, 2022 |
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Oct 1, 2022 04:25
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i think FFXIV is great, but by no means would i ever say it is perfect and that's okay, i don't expect anything at all to be perfect, ever ffxiv has flaws, yes. there are a lot of cutscenes and a lot of words to read, and if you don't like those then i don't blame you for bouncing off. i however like reading words and watching cutscenes, even if they are super stiff. i can still appreciate what is on offer. its flaws are not bad enough to get me to stop playing. i have a pretty high tolerance for stuff though, and some people have very low tolerance for certain things. and that's totally okay. i much prefer ffxiv's story telling over other MMOs where the majority of story beats are just a paragraph or two in a quest box. or in WoW's recent case the story takes place.... in a book, and not in the game at all. i play games for story, because it's my favorite medium to absorb stories through. Stux posted:its the least mmo mmo, very fail. having the option to play either single player or in a multiplayer group is always superior than being forced into one or the other.
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Oct 1, 2022 04:33
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Started replaying Metal Gear Solid V. I liked it a lot when I first played it even with its flaws, so I'm looking forward to see if that's still the case several years later. Ground Zeroes was still fun, so I'll see what happens with Phantom Pain. EDIT: Game still looks really good. Fox Engine was great.
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Oct 1, 2022 04:38
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remember Hellgate London
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Oct 1, 2022 04:39
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I'm probably the worst person on this site to defend FFXIV, though. I've cooled on it a good amount since I finished Endwalker. I feel like that broke the spell a little bit. I don't want to go into too much critical detail or whatever though because I played the story gradually over the course of like 8 years and I know I'm going to end up misremembering some things and being blown up with a bazooka over it The point I'm trying to make is that I think it does some cool things but also has a lot of failings in its storytelling that people forgive because of those cool things Also there is absolutely no way I'd play it if I started it now. Playing it gradually over several years is a very different experience from trying to get through the whole thing in one stretch. I'd just see the gigantic reams of story with its huge filler segments yawning like the void before me and go "I could just play the entire Yakuza series in like half this time" and do that instead Harrow fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Oct 1, 2022 |
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Oct 1, 2022 04:41
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im playing an mmo to play multiplayer
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Oct 1, 2022 04:42
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i played multiplayer in ffxiv just today, and had fun
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Oct 1, 2022 04:43
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I wish 12 tails online had gotten a proper worldwide release. I was curious to see how it played and a few of the player character designs looked pretty rad. 
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Oct 1, 2022 04:50
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