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Viginti Septem

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Chewbecca posted:

If I may be so bold as to request another one:

"Woman stuck at work who would rather be having fun" perhaps I should turn off my monitor lol

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Heather Papps posted:

"a friendly skeleton"


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Heather Papps posted:


"ultimate martial arts technique"

I wanted to try this with skeltons as well and it uh... Doesn't handle those too well...



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Finger Prince posted:

A few AI goons (automotive insanity, not artificial intelligence) have discovered that Midjourney is particularly great at drawing cars. I guess the prompts are a big thing but the output seems to vary from "could be a concept sketch from an actual designer" to "pretty sure this is a brochure from an alternate universe". It's amazing.

Yea, I was messing around with combining art deco with retro synthwave when I discovered that the cars are incredible. I've got more but their api is down on their website right now.






And some others that haven't been detailed yet



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Manifisto posted:

"stealing" is a pretty interesting way to look at it, I'm not saying it's wrong but there's a lot wrapped up in that concept

the notion that there is even something to be "stolen" is largely wrapped up in the commodification of art as well as a fetishization of what the artist supposedly does. we can say that certain human artists are perhaps hacks because their work is derivative, they largely copy elements of existing works, but this is absolutely allowed except in egregious cases and realistically it's what most self-proclaimed artists do anyway, perhaps with extra steps. how precisely is what the computer does different, setting aside the distinction of who/what happens to execute it? and there are those who would argue that even great artists, who are probably pretty unusual, do not come up with wholly new ideas (or perhaps do so only extremely rarely) but are instead a product of tweaking their influences. "good artists copy, great artists steal" and so on.

there's kind of a catch-22 in any criticism of this kind of art. if it really lacks the "creative spark" that is the hallmark of great art, where is the threat? the computer is just doing a version of what scores of lesser artists do anyway, see the paintings in any hotel room for example. but if it really is that good, such that people take notice of it and maybe prefer it to what human artists do, can we really say that there's something uniquely human about the artistic process? can we lay claim to something as the province of human intellectual achievement when it's something a sufficiently programmed computer can do anyway?

setting all these lofty ideas aside, yeah, I'm sure unscrupulous hacks use it as a shortcut to generating copycat art without having to develop their own talents or pay a better artist to realize them, and can easily skirt the body of copyright law by tweaking the computer's parameters to ensure that the output is "just different enough" to be legally distinct. no different from digital actors I suppose. but this line of thought really depends on the notion that artists, actors, whatever, are owed some kind of compensation for whatever they do, and that's perhaps beyond the scope of this discussion.

Agree. Human brains are computers as well. We feed input and synthesize new material based on the overall body of knowledge we have. The more I feed my brain instances of good photographic art, the better I am at spotting potential scenes for photos when I'm out shooting. If I feed on a bunch of Ernst Hass, Fan Ho, Vivian Maier and Henri Cartier-Bresson I can much better see opportunities for street photography shots because my brain has an idea of what makes great street shots and those patterns stand out to me. Doesn't mean I'm stealing their work. Synthesis can't happen without being trained on previous work.

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nut posted:

I mean from a purely labour perspective like how humans who are artists have to live in this world

I understand your point. A couple of thoughts. First:

AI looks incredible but it's still pretty difficult to get it to do exactly what you're wanting, at least right now. Example, I did HP's request for a happy skeleton and Midjourney provided four outputs. None of them had bodies. So it was basically giving me skulls. I had to run several variants until one of them had a full body. But by then the variants had developed some weird fabricy thing around the collar. Which reminded me of HP's scarf love. So I scrapped all that and rewrote the prompt to include scarves.

When I decided to try doing HP's martial arts prompt but adding skeletons to it, the AI really poo poo the bed. It got full body skeletons but their limbs were merging into other limbs, sometime the bones were fabric sheets, one had a bone sticking out of its kneecap, another was doing a Saturday Night Fever pose, and the last one had a skeleton with a third leg that looked like a large penis bone.

So, what if I was a graphics designer and a client came to me and said they need a series of images with a family of skeletons enjoying a day out in San Francisco. They want 15 separate images of the SAME family in different familiar settings around San Fran. The AI is going to fail wildly at doing anything other than maybe giving you, the artist, an idea of some neat scenes. Each image that Midjourney bot produces will have different skeletons, some of them might end up with bone boners on accident, etc.

A client would drop you immediately if you turned those over lol. But I could see it being used as inspiration for a graphics designer to do their own drawings. More like the AI helps us be creative in our own work.

The second thought on labor:

AI is a tool for artists. If you're an artist worried about other artists knowing a new tools, then learn it.

I'm learning it and, as I discussed in deep dish's AI thread, I've already spotted many, many ways that I could separate myself from the masses of other people who are using AI to create stuff with this new tool. And that's what artists do anyway. They learn tools well enough that help them stand out from the amateurs.

Viginti Septem fucked around with this message at 14:32 on Sep 5, 2022

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nut posted:

I think that prompt is too big to fit in the midjourney box

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Yea, it doesn't do anything vulgar. I watched a buddy spend a good hour trying every permutation under the sun to get the AI to draw a picture of a dog's rear end. It won't even show the backside of a dog lol.

https://i.imgur.com/9jTkSUL.mp4
Thanks to vanisher for the paradise sig! :)

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Buttchocks posted:

art deco hen playing croquette

This one was a pain lol

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Yea Midjourney does not do text right, like... Ever lol

It decides randomly some times to take snippets of your prompt and write it out on the image, but it never gets the words right and end up looking like Cyrillic

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The Hello Machine posted:

A kindly frog resting in the shade of a merciful tree, anticipating fall

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