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Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


It is finally time for ADCC once again. This is, in my humble opinion, the greatest no-gi submission grappling tournament to watch in the world. You’ll note I said “submission grappling” and not “brazilian jiu jitsu” but we’ll cover that a little later on in this post. For now here is the key information you, a prospective viewer, need to know:

When: September 17th & 18th, 2022
Where: Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, NV
Watch: https://www.flograppling.com (note: you need to subscribe to FloGrappling and it’s stupidly overpriced at $150 per year)

Here’s a full schedule breakdown of the weekend's events/times (assuming its local to Las Vegas)








How do I watch?

So FloGrappling is the main broadcaster of the event. They want to charge you $150/year for access to their grappling content which, while sometimes really good, isn’t really worth the $150/year investment.

However, FloGrappling is owned by FloSports who have other streaming services. Unlike FloGrappling, these other sports offer a monthly subscription instead of a yearly one.

Also if you sign up for say FloRugby’s monthly service, you get access to FloGrappling’s content as well.

It’s a thing FloGrappling specifically don’t really want you to know but it’s perfectly within their streaming service to use a FloRugby subscription and access FloGrappling.

So what am I trying to say? Unless you want to dump $150 to watch ADCC and some of the other events (IBJJF, WNO, F2W) I’d recommend going to FloRugby or so, get the monthly membership at $30 and then you can watch ADCC for fairly cheaper than what FloGrappling is hoping to dupe you into paying.






What is ADCC?

OK so now that you know how and when to watch, let’s talk about what the ADCC is. ADCC stands for Abu Dhabi Combat Club and was just that, a combat club based in Abu Dhabi. It later grew into the ADCC World Submission Fighting Championship but basically everyone just calls it ADCC. The whole thing started with Sheik Tahnoon Bin Zayed Al Nahyan, who is the son of the founder of the U.A.E., Sheik Zayed. Tahnoon traveled to the USA and was studying in college back in 1993, comically using the very nondescript name of “Ben” so people didn’t know he was royalty. 1993 also just so happened to be the year that the first UFC took place, and thus Sheik Tahnoon watched that event and became a fan of MMA. He then went on to study BJJ in San Diego, CA and once his time in the USA came to an end he headed back to the U.A.E but kept wanting to train. So he started to build up his own team of training partners in Abu Dhabi and would, using the stupid wealth he had access too, invite grapplers out to do private seminars etc. These weren’t just BJJ seminars but seminars featuring judo, wrestling, sambo, and more. This was just the first part of Tahnoon’s plan to introduce combat martial arts into the region.

The second part of his plan was to make a grappling tournament that, much like the first UFC events, tried to figure out which grappling style was the best without having to worry about being punched in the face. Adapting rules and concepts, this became known as Submission Fighting.

The rules for the ADCC were set up so that there was a set of rules that would allow practitioners of various grappling martial arts to compete against each other and prove that their style is the best. In 1998, the first Abu Dhabi Combat Club (ADCC) World Submission Fighting Championships was held in Abu Dhabi. This was a very low key and not extremely well publicized event but the word of mouth from the competitors who went there talking it up helped build its name brand value. Over time, the ADCC held more events and became a key foundational post in which modern grappling, and MMA, is based upon.

ADCC has seen legends from grappling disciplines compete as well as bringing in notable MMA fighters like Mark Kerr, Matt Hughes, Ricardo Arona, Tito Ortiz, Matt Lindland, Ronaldo “Jacare” Souza, and more.


Why is ADCC fun to watch versus say IBJJF or Who’s Number One events?

First, watch this excellent highlight video by Stuart Cooper - https://youtu.be/1QqsFcB6Y3w

Next, ADCC has a vastly and wildly different set of rules than what IBJJF or other grappling events focused around jiu jitsu focus on.

These aren’t all the rules (you can watch a full breakdown that is an hour long here) but the important ones that stand out to me are this section:

Non-Championship Rounds are 10 minutes long (Championships are 20 minutes)
Points/Penalties can’t be given in the first five minutes (to encourage aggressive/non stalling action)
In the second block of 5 minutes, points are scored.
Overtime in non-championship matches are 5 minutes, Championship matches get 10 mins of OT


To me, this specific ruling on how points are given and when is huge. Most of the time I (a stupid blue belt) go and watch a tournament using IBJJF rules and I find myself bored and not paying attention because someone will score early points and just coast for the remaining time. That is a fine way to use those rules in that tournament, but ADCC rewards you for action and attempting to win the fight. Entertainment isn’t the key focus, but it is definitely increased in these rules.






ADCC in Recent Years

ADCC is also kind of weird in that the same person doesn’t organize it each event like you see with the UFC or even IBJJF. ADCC has a trend of, as an organization, letting individuals step up to promote, organize, and run the event. Sometimes this has been successful. Sometimes….well sometimes not. There was one year where ADCC matches weren’t viewable and that was back in 2013.

In 2019 a guy who has worked with ADCC for a bunch of events named Mo Jassim stepped up and took over organizing and it was, probably, the best event they put on in terms of production value, matchups and publicity for the ADCC beyond so-and-so MMA fighter went to ADCC on a UFC broadcast. It was held in Anaheim, CA at the Anaheim Convention Center which was pretty good in terms of venue size and location. The showmanship, the matches, etc. all just clicked and worked perfectly with the recent rise in popularity in jiu jitsu outside of the niche crowd of weirdos who hang out on the mats.

2021 was meant to be Mo’s sophomore effort running the event but COVID-19 delayed it to this year. So far he’s stepped up the value. It’s a larger arena being at the UNLV Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas, there are over 11,000 spectators expected to attend which is pretty loving big for this sport and it is promising to be larger in terms of visuals. The list of invitees and qualifiers is really strong, and the stories/drama surrounding different competitors is also captivating. This is probably going to be Mo’s last go at it as he said it is really exhausting dealing with 98 fighters in one weekend and working out all the logistics etc. so this may be the last time ADCC is as big as this for a while.






ADCC 2019 Top Moments

Here's a little recap of a few key moments that stood out to me during ADCC 2019, and hopefully it gets you a bit excited for some grappling action as there are some folks you may see in the MMA sphere from time to time as a fighter or even as a coach for a fighter.



Ffion Davies submits Bia Mesquita - Match (warning there's a gnarly arm break in this video)

Ffion Davies is a talented Welsh grappler who has established herself as a top female competitor. She first entered the ADCC in 2017 which saw her face Brazil’s Bia Mesquita who submitted Davis via armbar breaking Davies’ arm in the process, and later won the whole tournament. That was not a fun start for Davies. In early 2019 before ADCC the two faced off again and Mesquita again easily beat Davies at the UAE Jiu Jitsu Federation World Pro. That's 2-0 for Mesquita in top level competitions, so most people assumed that when they faced off in ADCC's semi-finals Ffion would lose yet again. What happened instead was that Davies put on a stellar performance, catching Mesquita in an armbar and breaking the former champion’s arm in route to punching her ticket to the finals in ADCC 2019.



Nick Rodriguez makes it to the finals - Match

Nick Rodriguez was just an unknown person to most of the jiu jitsu scene before ADCC. He had less than two years of jiu jitsu training at Renzo Gracie’s academy in NYC and other than that only really wrestled in high school and one year at a Division 3 college. Hardly an impressive “top tier” wrestling background. Rodriguez worked his way into the ADCC via the ADCC Trials with a solid performance and when ADCC began most people assumed that he would be destroyed. After all he was “just a blue belt” and given the lineup of competitors in the +99kg division, he would easily get smoked right? Well, his first match was against Mahamed Aly who, in his own right, was a stupendous grappler. Nicky beat him with a dramatic win in OT. Then he beat former ADCC champ Orlando Sanchez in a gritty big guy fight that is stupidly fun. In the semifinals, he beat another ADCC champ in Robert “Cyborg” Abreu who played a more cautious game than Rodriguez. Abreu was so upset by the loss he refused to compete for the bronze medal and refused to enter the Absolute division. In the finals, Rodriguez’s stellar run came to a finish thanks to Kaynan Duarte. Despite only taking a silver medal, Nicky Rod established himself as a fan favorite who stole the whole loving show. The Black Belt Slayer, as he was dubbed, established a name for himself few people could. Abreu would get a rematch a year later and the two fought to a draw (using a different ruleset than ADCC) so his little tantrum at ADCC is doubly funny as a result.

FloGrappling made an excellent minidoc on his run - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOb2gtfoq-Q

And for 2022 Nicky's little brother Jay is also entering the ADCC and also had a stellar run in the trials earning his own minidoc (there's even a bit where Sean O'Malley's BJJ coach gets smoked by JayRod) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DdQ-9EK0z8


Lachlan Giles slays giants - Match

In 2019, Lachlan Giles lost in the opening round of the -77kg division. For the much hailed Aussie, this was pretty disappointing and probably embarassing to a degree. Not wanting to waste his trip the United States, he entered the Absolute division and was one of the smaller folks to do so. First, he heel hooked the +99kg champion Kaynan Duarte in the opening round, which was already a pretty big upset on its own. Duarte was an ADCC gold medallist and Lachlan couldn't get out of the first round in his division. Lachlan then he went on to heel hook +99kg competitor Patrick Gaudio in the second round of the tournament. OK pretty solid so far. Next, Lachlan lost to Gordon Ryan in the semifinals but as a result earned himself a shot for the bronze medal. How did the man from down under fair against yet another +99kg competitor in the form of Mahamad Aly? Yeah he heel hooked him too. Giles's performance was stupendous and was talked about more than Gordon Ryan winning gold in the whole division. Lachlan was the champion of the people who showed that you can be small and kill the big guys by exploding their knees (Giles also has a PHD in some form of physio therapy specializing in knee rehab too which is very comical).

After the event, Aly had a good laugh at his, Duarte & Gaudio’s expense about Giles’ performance.








ADCC in 2022

The returning champions or medallists from previous years are automatically qualified and directly invited to the tournament. Everyone else who wants to compete has to qualify in the regional ADCC trials which isn’t exactly easy.

The brackets for the tournament actually aren’t revealed until the day before the event meaning you show up and don’t know who you’re going to face off against in the opening round until about 24 hours beforehand. I’m not going to be able to give a full bracket analysis but I will focus on highlighting some key people I think you should watch or keep an eye on.


This first section is going to focus on the tournament:

For a full, and complete, breakdown of the competitors I’ll let you take a look at the Wikipedia page as I could write a novel and that may not be worthwhile to some of you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_ADCC_World_Championship

There’s going to be mainly divisional matches across weight classes but there’s also the Absolute division as well for the men’s competitors.

This is also a no weight limit tournament that isn’t even really figured out until the final day. Meaning the organizers and competitors don’t really know if they’re going to do it until late Saturday night and go in on Sunday. It usually crowns the next challenger to the Super Fight Championship.


A few things you may wanna keep an eye on (in no real order):

1) JT Torres is looking to be the first non-Brazilian to win his weight division three years in a row. The only other people to have done that are Royler Gracie, Rubens “Cobrinha” Charles, and Marcelo Garcia. Torres is, legitimately, one of the best grapplers of his generation and has been competing in the ADCC tournaments since 2011. In 2019, Torres had zero points scored against him in the entire tournament. That, on its own, is an unbelievable accomplishment given the talent that ADCC draws. He is, if anyone else, someone you should watch compete.

2) Gordon Ryan and Nick Rodriguez are both in the +99kg division. Ryan and Rodriguez were both teammates at the Renzo Gracie academy in NYC and part of the Danaher Death Squad. However over the past year or so the DDS team broke apart amidst rumors and speculation that there was a big falling out between two halves of the team. Rodriguez went on to co-found B-Team Jiu Jitsu with the likes of Craig Jones and Gordon Ryan’s younger brother Nicky Ryan while Gordon followed John Danaher and set up shop at New Wave Jiu Jitsu. For them to face off, with how seeding works, they will both need to make it to the finals. If so, that’d be a match that is 100% worth watching just for the story.

3) The -66kg division is the only division to not have a returning champion which means a new face will be crowned the best -66kg grappler in the world. In addition there is Cole Abate who, at 18, is aiming to be the youngest champion in ADCC history.

4) In the men’s +99kg division there will be five former ADCC champions competing in just that bracket. That doesn’t include the silver and bronze medallists also in the division, nor IBJJF world champions from the past two years.

5) Nicholas Meregali, arguably the best grappler wearing a gi in the -99kg and +99kg divisions, is making his ADCC debut this year. He has competed all over the world and focused solely on events using the gi so his transition to no-gi will be genuinely put to the test on the biggest stage.

6) Dante Leon & John Hanser will be representing Pedigo Submission Fighting. Who are they? Well, basically they’re an incredibly small gym based out of Mt. Vernon, Illinois which used to, until April of 2022, run their classes & training out of an abandoned laundromat. The team’s early members all mostly slept in the gym and it was very weird and intriguing in ways because they also wound up winning no-gi worlds. There’s a pretty good mini-doc series called Daisy Fresh: An American Jiu Jitsu Story which I think is worth watching. It’s both fascinating and a bit horrifying to see what these kids put themselves through, and how Flo tried to romanticize it but they happy ending is they no longer HAVE to live in squalor after winning so many big events and saving up enough money. If either of them were to place, it’d be a huge pop for Pedigo Submission Fighting, aka Daisy Fresh, because of how small they are compared to the giant gyms in jiu jitsu.






Super Fight: Gordon Ryan vs Andre Galvao




The Super Fight Championship is, more or less, ADCC’s way of having a champion and they typically don’t compete in the weight divisions. This is usually a marquee event and this year’s is quite big.

Reigning Super Fight Champion Andre Galvao, who turns 40 a week or so after ADCC this year, has been an ADCC medallist going back to 2007. He took bronze in the -77kg division and the Absolute division in 2007. Then in 2009 he took silver in the -88kg division. In 2011 he finally won a gold medal in not only the -88kg division, but also took the gold medal in the Absolute division. Since 2013 he has won 4 back to back Super Fight matches, which is a record on its own.

In 2019, he announced his retirement from competition. This just so happened to coincide with Gordon Ryan winning the Absolute division that year as well which earned him a shot at the Super Fight Championship in 2022 regardless of if Galvao returned or not (it’s basically a #1 contender spot).

Gordon Ryan, who is 27 years old, is arguably the greatest grappler around these days. He quickly rose to prominence when he won the Eddie Bravo Invitational beating big names like Yuri Simoes and Rustam Chsiev. In 2017, Gordon went to ADCC and took gold in the -88kg division and silver in the Absolute division. He then kept competing around the world at EBI, IBJJF, etc. Just before ADCC in 2019 he had a freak accident that saw his hand get stuck in a motorized bike and mangle it. He still competed that year and not only took gold in the -99kg division but also in the Absolute Division. He is also, on top of his match with Andre, going to compete in the +99kg division this year at ADCC. The man is, much like Andre, a loving stud when it comes to competitions.

For the past six or so years, Gordon has been calling for a match against Galvao. In that time a poo poo load of trash talk has taken place between the two. This has spilled over to Galvao & Ryan’s friends and camps also taking shots at each other slowly escalating the rivalry and building more and more desire to see the two square off. The story between these two to this moment is one that could easily make for a documentary or at least an episode of Beefs on Secret Base and rightly should.

This is a matchup that has been talked about for more than half a decade but never reached fruition until now. A poo poo load of pride, fame, money, and prestige (not to mention smugness) is on the line. Pages can be written about the trash talk between the two. In fact, more pages than that have been written by them about the other and why they suck or are a bad person. This is a deeply personal feud, and if nobody has any freak injuries, we’ll likely see the two best grapplers compete against each other in what is promised to be a stupendous match.

Mekchu fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Sep 13, 2022

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Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008
Excellent OP. I am very excited to go watch all natural, large, very in shape, sweaty men hug each other to decide who is the best hugger in the world.

Is anyone else going to Vegas?

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.
a really fascinating thing about adcc is that it's one of those things that is more entertaining to read about than actually watch. Or maybe it just seems like that because the op is really good.

regardless of the ruleset, ryan / galvao is must watch fighting. way more relevant than winding back eddie bravo and royler anyway.

duckdealer
Feb 28, 2011

Great OP!

I might check out some of ADCC this time. I really don’t feel like giving money to Flo but we will see what happens.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Waroduce posted:

Excellent OP. I am very excited to go watch all natural, large, very in shape, sweaty men

It's that jesus and acai bro!

for those that don't know, saying "it's just jesus and acai" is a thing the brazilians say to explain how suddenly they got massively large and not at all used steroids to do so in a sport that rarely does drug testing

omg chael crash
Jul 8, 2012

Macys paid for this. Noodle Boy and Bonby are bad at video games and even worse friends.


I hope Gordon literally dies on the mat

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
All I want to see is Cyborg Abreu throw another tantrum after losing and then gently caress off forever.

Digital Jedi
May 28, 2007

Fallen Rib
Great OP. Looking forward to it.

butros
Aug 2, 2007

I believe the signs of the reptile master


Great writeup Mekchu.

I sprung for Flo for last ADCC and it was worth it - the highlights Mek listed made it worth the price of admission, watching FFion and Lachlan in particular pull off what they did live was insane.

I'm really interested to see how Meregali does. He's not really a dark horse because he's a world-beater in the gi, but the transition to nogi isn't always smooth. But he's also been training at New Wave recently as ADCC prep so is 100% going to be exciting.

-77kg is going to be loving bonkers - it's the only bracket where I look down both invitees and qualifiers list and know every name and they are all killers. The rest of them there's some big names and then a bunch of guys I've never heard of.

I can't wait to see Tim Spriggs get crushed and then hopefully he'll gently caress off forever. Inshallah he'll get seeded against Craig Jones which will make it even more delicious.

I am guessing this will be the last ADCC for Xande and Rafael Lovato Jr. given they both retired from gi competition earlier this year, hoping they can both go out with a solid performance.

I don't get why "Only Female winners of European, North and South American 2nd Trials or Asia & Oceania Trial qualify for the World Championship" according to Wikipedia. Why even have the first trials? And why that rule only for women's divisions?

brian
Sep 11, 2001
I obtained this title through beard tax.

Awesome, I dip in and out of watching grappling stuff but this ADCC has been coming forever and its rad it's finally here, great writeup op

Xguard86
Nov 22, 2004

"You don't understand his pain. Everywhere he goes he sees women working, wearing pants, speaking in gatherings, voting. Surely they will burn in the white hot flames of Hell"

Marching Powder posted:

a really fascinating thing about adcc is that it's one of those things that is more entertaining to read about than actually watch. Or maybe it just seems like that because the op is really good.

regardless of the ruleset, ryan / galvao is must watch fighting. way more relevant than winding back eddie bravo and royler anyway.

It's the kumite done in real life. Very compelling!

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
One of the guys worth also watching or seeing how well he does is Izaak Michell from Australia. He's with Craig, Nicky, Nicky Rod & the B-Team guys and also won that FloGrappling knock off of The Ultimate Fighter called Who's Next? (all the episodes are up on YouTube just not the finals match).

He is, from what I can tell, the closest to the first Nicky/Craig homegrown talent aside from JayRod.

Head Bee Guy
Jun 12, 2011

Retarded for Busting
Grimey Drawer
Why are these events filmed so poorly? Even at the highest level, ADCC still has about the same level of spectacle as an uncle filming a high school travel match.

At least ONE has some dynamic videography and some pomp and circumstance. Multiple matches occurring simultaneously in the same huge ball room is a vibe killer.

Does FLO just suck poo poo?


e: great write up btw, OP. didn’t mean to kramer in here to threadshit

Head Bee Guy fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Sep 12, 2022

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Head Bee Guy posted:

Does FLO just suck poo poo?

Yes. Flo is pretty bad for a variety of reasons and sometimes yes their filming of an event sucks. The IBJJF Masters event this year (about a month ago) was a poo poo show with its filming quality.

However given the previous years of ADCC, 2017 was pretty decent. Before Flo started doing stuff it was Budo Videos which wasn't much better and there was no commentary/analysis during the match.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq_GQqJ_aDY

That's a pre-MMA Chris Weidman grappling Galvao btw (and also Bruce Buffer doing the match announcements)

Mekchu fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Sep 12, 2022

butros
Aug 2, 2007

I believe the signs of the reptile master


Flo does suck, but last ADCC IIRC it was actually reasonably ok production.

There were two mats so generally two matches going on simultaneously, and both matches had a dedicated commentary team and multiple cameras, and you were able to do picture in picture. So several steps up in quality from your typical IBJJF show just because fewer matches going at a time makes it more manageable. I do think there is room to improve but it was very watchable last time.

Digital Jedi
May 28, 2007

Fallen Rib

Mekchu posted:

It's that jesus and acai bro!

for those that don't know, saying "it's just jesus and acai" is a thing the brazilians say to explain how suddenly they got massively large and not at all used steroids to do so in a sport that rarely does drug testing

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.
gordon ryan gaining 15kg of solid muscle in six months was acai as gently caress, but holy poo poo he looks ravaged in that pic

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

butros posted:

Flo does suck, but last ADCC IIRC it was actually reasonably ok production.

There were two mats so generally two matches going on simultaneously, and both matches had a dedicated commentary team and multiple cameras, and you were able to do picture in picture. So several steps up in quality from your typical IBJJF show just because fewer matches going at a time makes it more manageable. I do think there is room to improve but it was very watchable last time.

I was dual screen watching them and it was fun as hell.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

For reference:

Andre's first picture is from 2010 (he fought at 170lbs then). Galvao did progressively go up in weight for ADCCs from 77kg to 88kg between 2007 & 2009.



Gordon's first picture is from somewhere between 2016 to 2017 (if its EBI 8 in 2016 he's 185lbs, if its EBI 11 in 2017 he's at 170lbs).

Both their second pictures are fairly recently with Gordon's probably being from a few weeks ago and Galvao's being at possibly last ADCC.

the yeti
Mar 29, 2008

memento disco



Regarding the arm breaks in the OP, are breaks commonplace in this tier of grappling?

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.

the yeti posted:

Regarding the arm breaks in the OP, are breaks commonplace in this tier of grappling?

now that you mention it, it's not really common at all. grapplers at this level know when they are beaten and they can tap, or they can go to sleep / rehab. similarly, they know when they have won and generally give their opponents a window to make the choice before causing serious injury because they mostly aren't psychopaths.

there are however psychopaths, like that treestump motherfucker in the ufc who shortened a bunch of careers.

Michael Transactions
Nov 11, 2013

i will be in attendance

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

the yeti posted:

Regarding the arm breaks in the OP, are breaks commonplace in this tier of grappling?

Not really. There was an gold medal IBJJF gi match where Ronaldo Souza very clearly broke his arm but wanted to win and sorta hid it from the referee by tucking it into his belt a bit.

IBJJF and other organizations obviously don't think that's smart and there are rules to protect the athletes.

ADCC is a bit of a different beast because of how prestigious the gold medal is. You either have to be invited or win a grueling qualifier to get to the event so folks don't want treat it lightly like they may treat a normal tournament anyone cN sogn up for. The medal carries a huge amount of value for years after the event you win it at and getting gold could literally change someone's life in terms of being booked to teach seminars, sell DVD instructional etc. ADCC also won't stop you if you break your arm (to a point). They care about safety, but breaking an arm or a knee because you don't want to tap isn't what they feel is their responsibility to step in to stop because it's on the fighter.

Nestharken
Mar 23, 2006

The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame.

the yeti posted:

Regarding the arm breaks in the OP, are breaks commonplace in this tier of grappling?

There are a few notable exceptions that prove the rule (see: the Miyao brothers), but for the most part, you won't see anything getting obviously broken.

https://twitter.com/jordan_jitsu/status/1178392248691646464

That said, the people competing at this level are all incredibly tough, and they're willing to grit out submissions that any of us would consider "dead to rights" if they think they can escape with only *some* damage. The EBI match between Gordon Ryan and Craig Jones has a good example of this (14:50 timestamp):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_QwEOKLLrQ&t=890s

Craig might not have snapped the arm backwards, but just look at Gordon's face and listen to the commentators--he was *not* having a great time.

the yeti
Mar 29, 2008

memento disco



Thanks y’all—I figured there’d be a certain amount of ‘gently caress you break it before I make you stop and defend’ kind of determination but (hopefully) less going right for the connective tissue damage.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CieMiPQj1x1/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

That stage looks sweet.

Iirc AEW did a PPV at the same arena last year?

Edit -

Here's a 40min preview by Flo meant to be like the countdown's that UFC/Boxing do but its focused on Andre Galvao vs Gordon Ryan.

Mekchu fucked around with this message at 09:11 on Sep 14, 2022

Tacos Al Pastor
Jun 20, 2003

Ill be watching on Flo.

Im really wondering what the brackets are going to look like, esepcially at 77kg. Any of those are going to be more exciting to watch than Andre and Gordon.

Michael Transactions posted:

i will be in attendance

lucky gently caress.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Flo straight up copying UFC's YouTube vlog graphics/intro for their "Fight week vlog" is hilarious to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3E-9SdwGWA

But for real this looks like it is going to be loving amazing.

Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008
I'm at the Delano, saw cyborg and the whole fight sports team and a bunch of other dudes. Pretty cool.

If anyone wants to grab a beer this weekend I'm Warodeuce#9069 on discord

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Waroduce posted:

I'm at the Delano, saw cyborg and the whole fight sports team and a bunch of other dudes. Pretty cool.

If anyone wants to grab a beer this weekend I'm Warodeuce#9069 on discord

Feel free to also hop onto the Fight Island discord if you're not already there. A good number of us seem to be keen to watch ADCC live this weekend.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
My coach, Roberto Dib Frias, is competing in the 88kg division. He's pretty much an unknown outside of Australia so he's fairly certain he'll be matched against Matheus Diniz in the first round.

It certainly gives the competition more meaning when your friend is on the mats. He has done well competing here for the last 5 years, but I'm not sure how things will go at the level of ADCC.

starkebn fucked around with this message at 11:54 on Sep 16, 2022

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Brackets reveal starts in ~90mins from this post

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Well that bracket reveal was absolutely trash tier :laffo:

Anyway here is the brackets for the ADCC

Women's 66kg



Women's +60kg



Men's 66kg



Men's 77kg



Men's 88kg



Men's -99kg (It's different because Flo didn't bother to show the graphic)




Men's +99kg (It's different because Flo didn't bother to show the graphic)

Mekchu fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Sep 17, 2022

Tacos Al Pastor
Jun 20, 2003

77Kg got sooo many good matchups

Ive never really watched Tommy Langaker outside the Gi so thats one that Ill def be interested in watching and seeing how he uses his game there.

Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008
Bottom right of 77 is the shark tank

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.
the rest is whatever but whoever wins at 77 has achieved something remarkable

Mannetosen
Aug 22, 2010

What's all this racket up here, Barnett? You watchin' your girl cartoons again?

Tacos Al Pastor posted:

77Kg got sooo many good matchups

Ive never really watched Tommy Langaker outside the Gi so thats one that Ill def be interested in watching and seeing how he uses his game there.

As someone who has rolled hundreds of rounds with Tommy over the years, I think he'll surprise a lot of people. He steamrolled everyone at the European trials after only really focusing on no gi for a few months and only doing one no gi competition at black belt ahead of it. His no gi game had improved A LOT since he won the trials in May, both standing and on the ground, so I'm very excited to see how he stacks up to the rest of that insane weight class.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Waroduce posted:

Bottom right of 77 is the shark tank

Man Nicky/Mica would be a beautiful match up.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Speaking of Nicky Ryan, Craig and JayRod are def enjoying the fact they don't need to cut weight.


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Sep 30, 2004

i can’t believe he’s smoking crack just before adcc

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