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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:All these dumb advanced stats would be more tolerable if they didn't have the gall to display their numbers with double digit precision, which suggest an accuracy and granularity level that does not actually exist. Just break things into basic tiers instead. I got you fam.  Tua is bad actually
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I think people are already forgetting that the Bears - 49ers game was in the worst throwing conditions possible. Nobody forgets his weapons are the worst in the league. But I also watched half that Packers game, so yeah, I guess oof Fields. Nosre posted:Jones almost centred in the Boring quadrant, perfect It's wild how almost every stat and graph have the patriots at dead center. Just a perfectly average team through two weeks. True lunch pail warriors putting in the hard work at the football mines.
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Kalli posted:I think people are already forgetting that the Bears - 49ers game was in the worst throwing conditions possible. Nobody forgets his weapons are the worst in the league. 
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SKULL.GIF posted:Oof, Fields... drat, I didn't even notice him until you posted this.
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Kalli posted:every stat and graph have the patriots at dead center. Just a perfectly average team through two weeks. True lunch pail warriors putting in the hard work at the football mines. Not showing off, not falling behind
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They don't want to be remembered. They want to be forgotten.
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Maybe if Mac tries abstinence he’ll get good at football.
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Ehud posted:Lamar was great and DVOA/DYAR/DEEZ continue to mean absolutely nothing to me. Sometimes I click on their articles and it feels like the scene in Beetlejuice where Alec Baldwin's character is trying to read the handbook for the recently deceased. Even though he was #1 this week this part of the blurb explains my basic problem with DYAR. quote:Hey, what's that elephant doing in here? Well, anyway, let's talk about how Jackson only had 11 rushing DYAR when he ran nine times for 114 yards and a touchdown. There's a principle of diminishing returns built into the DYAR/DVOA formula that limits the value of any one play, so Jackson "only" gets 26 DYAR for his 79-yard touchdown run in the third quarter. It's like the opposite problem from when some baseball manager says a pitcher threw 100 pitches and 99 of them were pretty good when he gives up a couple of runs and then a grand slam. These plays do count for more by the rules of the game.
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Sep 20, 2022 16:46
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Bucs signed Cole Beasley. Making it so easy to hate them
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Some of the stat stuff is interesting within context, like, Average Depth of Target. Top 3 are probably no brainers, Lamar, Jameis, and Fields all 10.5-12y. Bottom 4 are Geno, Kirk Cousins, AARon, and Justin Herbert (?!?), from 5.2-6.5y. This is mostly scheme dependent but still interesting.
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kiimo posted:Bucs signed Cole Beasley. Still a net decrease in roster unlikability compared to last year considering Antonio Brown was here.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:I think literally fantasy points are a better system for player evaluation. Waddle had 11 receptions for 171 yards and 2 TDs but this is their top 5 
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That seems reasonable to me considering there's 8 missed targets in there for Waddle.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Still a net decrease in roster unlikability compared to last year considering Antonio Brown was here. I'll take Antonio Clown on a roster 100 times out of 100 over Cole Beasley
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kiimo posted:I'll take Antonio Clown on a roster 100 times out of 100 over Cole Beasley That’s... a choice.
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gently caress Cole Beasley but I will say that raping someone is worse than being anti-vax.
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fsif posted:gently caress Cole Beasley but I will say that raping someone is worse than being anti-vax. Now that's fair and I forgot about that aspect of AB
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Ehud posted:Waddle had 11 receptions for 171 yards and 2 TDs but this is their top 5 I really want Christian Kirk to have a monster year out of nowhere after being handed a billion dollars for no reason
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I really want TLaw to be good, but what I continue to see of him... woof. How could a guy who's supposed to be so pro-ready throw so inaccurately?
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sure wish my team would stop signing poo poo receivers!
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it is week three, my dudes.
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Once again: PFF - subjective analysis done by a crew of people, the grades are subjective. DVOA - weighted formula that values some statistics over another which is again, subjective. The less you all stop trying to let these stupid stat narratives rule how you view players the more you'll enjoy the game. It's all getting replaced by gamecast eventually anyway.
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Doltos posted:Once again: I can only speak for myself, but to me the vibe is more "lol look how dumb these stats are"
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Ehud posted:I can only speak for myself, but to me the vibe is more "lol look how dumb these stats are" Ehud you and your perception of these players are clearly being controlled, even if it’s subconsciously.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:I really want TLaw to be good, but what I continue to see of him... woof. How could a guy who's supposed to be so pro-ready throw so inaccurately? He completed 83% of his passes last week
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Ehud posted:I can only speak for myself, but to me the vibe is more "lol look how dumb these stats are" Yea that clickbait sure is potent
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Crimson Ghost power rankings were the only truly scientific rankings in existence.
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Advanced stats are good when they say good things about teams and players I like
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a neat cape posted:Advanced stats are good when they say good things about teams and players I like
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a neat cape posted:Advanced stats are good when they say good things about teams and players I like Same.
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a neat cape posted:Advanced stats are good when they say good things about teams and players I like The trick to getting engagement as an advanced stats guy is to make up and post at least one good and one bad stat for every QB so people can just cherry pick which numbers and charts give them warm fuzzy feelings.
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Amy Pole Her posted:I completely forgot about the “you don’t need to see a movie/read a book to critique it” argument Forgot about what now
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DeimosRising posted:Forgot about what now Former chat thread poster had an odd stance on multiple things solely for the sake of talking. That’s all that really needs to be said I think
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Ehud posted:Waddle had 11 receptions for 171 yards and 2 TDs but this is their top 5 Waddle had two huge drops that made stomp my feet and throw a tantrum. one of them was almost intercepted and would have basically ended the game. otherwise i love him and want to marry him
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