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blackmet
Aug 5, 2006

I believe there is a universal Truth to the process of doing things right (Not that I have any idea what that actually means).
Ok. After reading through this thread...

OP, you've got a pretty sweet life. You probably make $50-70K a year, get random full weeks off, live comfortably on your wife's income, and just had a commercial building just fall in your lap. I have no idea why you want to gently caress with it.

But, OK...a few things:

1) Someone suggested working at or learning at a Dunkin or Starbucks or something. I'd actually say a Daylight Donuts or a independent shop, if you have one in your area, might be better. That's probably closer to what your business model will look like.

2) Do you know exactly how many cars go by that intersection during the hours you're open? You say there's cars every 10 or 15 seconds. If we're talking a car every 10-15 seconds, that's only maybe 300-400 cars an hour. If 1% stop at your business, that's only 3-4 cars an hour. You can't make a living off that. I'm guessing walk-by traffic is negligible.

3) If the average income in your town is 41K a year for a household, that's really low. There's probably a lot of people who, even if they like your product, can't afford the $5 a day they'd LIKE to spend. They get coffee and donuts from the grocery store and eat at home most of the time.

4) I really hope you're planning on re-upholstering those chairs. They're ugly as sin and it looks like people rubbed body juices on them at the pizzatitty place. Gross.

It's a terrible idea and will be a total trainwreck. But, hey, once it breaks your spirit, Walmart is always hiring!

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blackmet
Aug 5, 2006

I believe there is a universal Truth to the process of doing things right (Not that I have any idea what that actually means).

Rationale posted:

Union dues are $444 a year and if you pay them ahead of time you can have a job the day you get out of prison.

Great.

So, what are your plans for learning this business?

What kind of vehicle and foot traffic can you reasonably expect? Because, while as a fat, pasty, middle aged white dude I LOVE me a good donut, but I don't love me one enough to go out of my way much for them.

What demographic are you trying to market towards? How are you going to get them in the door?

And how are you going to take that nasty stuff you bought and make it usable?

blackmet
Aug 5, 2006

I believe there is a universal Truth to the process of doing things right (Not that I have any idea what that actually means).

sticksy posted:

Can we use this thread to talk about what sort of shops or businesses we would start with the gift of a free building and a TBI

Music/Movie/Book store.

It would fail almost as spectacularly as this will. But I'd have an amazing time doing it.

I also was a Music/Movie/Book specialist at Target for 2.5 years when I was in college, so I sort of understand planogramming, signage, pricing, and shipbacks to distributors. Not well, but at a basic level.

blackmet
Aug 5, 2006

I believe there is a universal Truth to the process of doing things right (Not that I have any idea what that actually means).

Rationale posted:

My business plan is written here in real time with live input like the price is right and 1/6 of those people make a killing


E: really more if you consider the people that make the show

There's actually 10 players in a game of The Price is Right, counting the new player that comes down after someone plays a pricing game.

You're the dude who gets called down last, promptly bids $1 on a $450 espresso machine, then gets beaten by Sandra, a Mormon Stay at home mother of 5 who can't even drink coffee.

blackmet
Aug 5, 2006

I believe there is a universal Truth to the process of doing things right (Not that I have any idea what that actually means).
I'm not really sure how to pull off a drive thru there, unless you want it to be the date donut shop.

Based on the exterior, it probably has a bit of potential as a basic retail store, if fixed up. Used appliances, building supplies, something like that -- the kind of place you go to when you need a $100 oven and can just haul it away. Or maybe a laundromat. Somewhere to launder money, anyway.

blackmet
Aug 5, 2006

I believe there is a universal Truth to the process of doing things right (Not that I have any idea what that actually means).

CarForumPoster posted:

to each their own but jfc, it's hard not to interpolate these statements into what your opinions on things must be like...

nissan versa is a great car!
miley cyrus is so avant-garde.


is an ideal sunday for you like instant coffee, a box of cheap donuts and an all day binge watch of white people renovating houses?

EDIT: These are valid opinions, they're just surprising to read. Apologies that this has a curt and dismissive tone.

For the price, the Nissan Versa is a great car.
And Miley Cyrus is actually pretty drat weird.

Also, that sounds like a pretty good Sunday.

God, I am old.

blackmet
Aug 5, 2006

I believe there is a universal Truth to the process of doing things right (Not that I have any idea what that actually means).
Given the state of the building, I'm thinking something slightly creepy and Halloween themed? The Munsters, Chucky, Freddy Krueger, etc.

Spooky Donuts (with all the O's as donuts)
Little Shop of Donuts
Monster Donut Shack

Somebody better at this than I am help me. I'm dying.

blackmet
Aug 5, 2006

I believe there is a universal Truth to the process of doing things right (Not that I have any idea what that actually means).

Rationale posted:

Other enterprises we considered were country store, motorcycle mechanic, bicycle shop, book store, and gym.

I thought about making it into a plumbing workshop and using it to build prefabricated plumbing batteries to sell to contractors maybe even deliver it real nice where their guys can just square it up and tie it in.

But then I’d have to sell that service and I’m generallly facetious to the point where people find me obnoxious so I’d rather go with something that sells itself

You can always hire someone to do the sales side for you in a plumbing business.

Or, honestly, you probably already know enough people and enough about what you do that you can be successful as long as you tone down the facetious side. That's a challenge, but not on the level of creating a Donut Shanty.

Motorcycle repair could work there too. I took my car to a dude who worked in a graffiti splattered garage that I found in the back of the free newspaper. He did great work at a reasonable price. Be that dude. He came in at 9, left at 6, never worked weekends, and would usually offer me a beer when I came to pick up my car.

The other three are still bad ideas, but better than donuts. Books don't expire and can be shipped easily. The country store would probably attract the high schoolers in the area and people who need a few necessities but don't want to fight Wal-Mart. And CrossFit Hovel could totally attract that hardcore, "I DON'T NEED NO LUXURIES TO WORK OUT!" type.

But do not do donuts. The location blows, the building blows, and you're not very good at it.

blackmet
Aug 5, 2006

I believe there is a universal Truth to the process of doing things right (Not that I have any idea what that actually means).

Rationale posted:

A toxic waste dump

Toxic Waste! That's what that building is made to sell!

blackmet
Aug 5, 2006

I believe there is a universal Truth to the process of doing things right (Not that I have any idea what that actually means).

Humerus posted:

Hey OP have you ever watched Restaurant Impossible? Basically every other episode is some guy with absolutely no restaurant experience who decides to open a restaurant because "people always gotta eat!" and then they fail horribly and even with the buzz of being on TV they can't climb out of the hole they got themselves in. Just thinking about that show no real reason.

Robert Irvine is going to have a field day with this donut shop one day.

It combines all of his favorite things: dilapidated buildings, amateur owners who know nothing about food costs, people who live in the rust belt, and probably not amazing food. And I don't think he's done a donut shop before, so that's a great hook too.

I'd watch.

blackmet
Aug 5, 2006

I believe there is a universal Truth to the process of doing things right (Not that I have any idea what that actually means).

Rationale posted:

I really need to find a grease hood but first I’ll go to community college and learn excel

All business owners need to have a certain amount of spreadsheet geek in them, or at least know how it works.

How do you think payroll gets out on time with the correct taxes paid out? How do you think they calculate the cost to make whatever goods they're making and what they should be sold for? It's not just done by magic.

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blackmet
Aug 5, 2006

I believe there is a universal Truth to the process of doing things right (Not that I have any idea what that actually means).

pseudanonymous posted:

As if he’s actually going to get anywhere near drivable. He’s just going to buy it and some other stuff then come up with some… well plan isn’t the word I guess shopping list.

Those poor kids.

When he passes away, they're going to be spending years cleaning up dilapidated rental properties and rusted out buses and restaurant equipment that they never wanted, needed, or asked for.

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