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Poil posted:Why does LeChuck blame Wally and not Threepwood, who he knows was messing about onboard his ship, for the map? Because Wally messed up and gave him the wrong map! Like that nincompoop threepwood could have stolen it in a wacky series of idiocy.
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I'm going to try to record another update within the next few days, I have my little one for part of the school holidays so my free time has been shortened considerably. I missed a line of dialogue involving the horse armour in the second act so I'll be including it in the additional footage for the third act. I thought that I'd start the recordings early but it's been a little premature as I haven't done many actions so far, it also doesn't help that most of the alternate dialogue with Guybrush hanging upside yields no extra dialogue at all. I'm going to plan another update tonight and I'll try to record something this weekend.Poil posted:Why does LeChuck blame Wally and not Threepwood, who he knows was messing about onboard his ship, for the map? How I see it is that LeChuck didn't even look at the map before he got to Monkey Island as he would have noticed the difference as soon as he opened it again. LeChuck commissioned a map from Wally and left it on his desk and when they got to Monkey Island he picked up a map that was left on his desk to give him directions. Those directions happened to be wrong so in a fit of anger he's blaming the person from who he commissioned the map for giving him those directions. Or he already knows it was Guybrush and is using Wally as a scapegoat to punish someone.
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# ? Oct 21, 2022 22:11 |
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This act was really short as this is the second and final part of it. We already have some tasks to perform and we head back to LeShip to accomplish them. I don't want to spoil what happens afterwards as there are some surprises mixed in with some of the obvious developments. There's a fair bit of reading in this video and I wasn't in a rush to skim through the pages, the reading starts at 6:50 and ends at 14:05. I'll work on more additional dialogue over the next few days. Omobono posted:That latin incantation Lila did is almost a grammatically correct phrase. Mostly, the last word doesn't actually seem to exist in Latin? Thank you for the translation. I wonder if this has been copied from an actual text or if they've just made it up for the game. There is another challenge for you in this video if you want to undertake it: Quis nostrud fugiat, nulla tempor. Laboris nisi ex commodo consequat. Quis autem vel voluptate velit!
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# ? Oct 23, 2022 23:37 |
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I think I really like how Elaine has her own way of getting to MI. They really are selling her as protagonist of her own adventure. Let's see, again the Latin collapses in the last phrase (Admittedly the last time I studied Latin was 20 years ago but I'm sure you're not supposed to have "however" and "or" attached to the same verb) "You who wants to flee from us, it's too late [lit: there's no time]. You're working only for the sake of profit. (LeChuck's catchphrase goes here) however who wants pleasure" I think the intended meaning for that last phrase is lol lmao we're backstabbing you in three seconds. It wouldn't surprise me if the incantations were written by starting with actual Latin phrases and then mangling the last line.
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 05:56 |
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Another section where I just really liked all the puzzle solving, finding out LeChuck's secrets was just a good time. His diary in particular was a cute read and a fun puzzle. I also liked the musical skulls puzzle a lot,, I was not sure what to expect when I was picking up all the skulls earlier on. I didn't have a good save to test it out, but I'm curious whether you could get through that section without placing them in the correct order if you already know the correct note sequence regardless of their position.
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 06:17 |
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I yelled OH NO!!!! when I saw Guybrush didn't bounce back up
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 06:47 |
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The captains deliberately cut the various rubber trees beforehand so Guybrush wouldn't bounce, didn't they?
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 08:34 |
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Captain Hygiene posted:Another section where I just really liked all the puzzle solving, finding out LeChuck's secrets was just a good time. His diary in particular was a cute read and a fun puzzle. You can put the skulls in any order that you like, I just put them in this order so I could easily remember where each one was Omobono posted:
Omobono posted:The captains deliberately cut the various rubber trees beforehand so Guybrush wouldn't bounce, didn't they? It sounds like the incarnations had no real effect and were used just because they sound fancy. They definitely chose that spot for a reason, maybe they used the skull to experiment beforehand? Rocket Baby Dolls fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Oct 25, 2022 |
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Captain Hygiene posted:Another section where I just really liked all the puzzle solving, finding out LeChuck's secrets was just a good time. His diary in particular was a cute read and a fun puzzle. Fairly sure you can. I bruteforced that segment and I didn't know anything about placing the skulls in certain orders.
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 09:59 |
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I had no idea Murray was such an accomplished pickpocket. If you want to insult someone's pirate ship I recommend this Alestorm song. (mildly NWS)
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Rocket Baby Dolls posted:It sounds like the incarnations had no real effect and were used just because they sound fancy. I don't think I can agree. There's this undercurrent of "look at this moron thinking he can pull one over us" in the lines, which is extremely appropriate considering what happens.
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 12:48 |
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Omobono posted:I don't think I can agree. There's this undercurrent of "look at this moron thinking he can pull one over us" in the lines, which is extremely appropriate considering what happens. I was meaning that the spoken incantations don't seem to have any effect on the spell, as they're about insulting Guybrush and not about creating a magical map.
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 14:03 |
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Rocket Baby Dolls posted:You can put the skills in any order that you like, I just put them in this order so I could easily remember where each one was Yeah, that makes sense. I got too focused on getting everything set up right being part of the puzzle, when the game doesn't actually do anything to tell you that part's needed necessary.
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# ? Oct 24, 2022 16:24 |
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I'm about two-thirds into replaying this chapter and I've found a surprising amount of additional dialogue, I've even managed to get Guybrush to try another one of Putra's dishes. So far I have over twelve minutes of edited footage which will most likely balloon towards the end with the betrayal and Elaine's rescue. I'm going to try to have things done before the weekend, I have a couple of child-free days off work after tomorrow so if all goes well I'll finish them during that time and start off the next chapter.
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# ? Oct 25, 2022 00:09 |
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Bonus Videos Additional Content - Part III As I mentioned in the above post, there were a lot of additional lines of dialogue in this chapter despite its brevity. The most time-consuming part was everything from the ritual onwards as there was no option to save until Elaine runs off, I had to repeat the ritual and everything else right up until the final clip. The clips are in chapter progression order again, timestamps are in the video description. The clips included in this video are: Horse Armour, Hanging Around (Despite there being alternate choices in this dialogue tree, most of them don't trigger any extra dialogue), Unprepared, Another Brazen Attempt, Dangling Metaphors, Poetry Recital, Gullet vs Gullet, Permission To Come Aboard?, Annoying Bob, Reprieve, Ship Repairs (I meant to show this off during the main playthrough), Cooking With Putra, Booted Off and A Minor Set Back.
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# ? Oct 26, 2022 10:59 |
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Guybrush, Elaine and the gang have arrived back on Mêlée Island to track down the secret and they find the island hasn't fared well from the earthquake. Bonus Videos Here's a video that consists entirely of Guybrush entering and leaving a shop repeatedly for a little under three minutes: On The Lam
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# ? Oct 27, 2022 20:31 |
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I don't know why the SCUMM Bar cook bawling his eyes out makes me laugh so hard every time, but it does. Poor guy just can't catch a break.
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# ? Oct 28, 2022 03:31 |
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Sooo... we will actually see the Secret of Monkey Island this time? For real?
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# ? Oct 28, 2022 09:24 |
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Torrannor posted:Sooo... we will actually see the Secret of Monkey Island this time? For real? The secret was in your heart all along!
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# ? Oct 28, 2022 09:55 |
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The secret was the friends we abused along the way.
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# ? Oct 28, 2022 13:02 |
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They already found out that the secret was Monkey Kombat, I'm not sure how they all managed to forget that. Looking forward to an hour+ of working out the randomized movesets again in any case!
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Captain Hygiene posted:They already found out that the secret was Monkey Kombat, I'm not sure how they all managed to forget that. Looking forward to an hour+ of working out the randomized movesets again in any case! e: I'm really hoping the secret of Monkey Island isn't just a copy of The Secret of Monkey Island. anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Oct 28, 2022 |
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Captain Hygiene posted:They already found out that the secret was Monkey Kombat, I'm not sure how they all managed to forget that. Looking forward to an hour+ of working out the randomized movesets again in any case! anilEhilated posted:We do not talk about Monkey Kombat. Monkey Kombat wouldn't be as bad if they didn't randomise the drat thing each time. I'm quite proud that it only took me twenty minutes to get through it in the LP but it's not something that I want to experience again any time soon. I completed the LP eight years ago and it'll probably be at least another eight before I go back to it again.
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# ? Oct 28, 2022 16:27 |
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Do you have to visit the wreck of the Sea Monkey before being pushed off the cliff? I noticed that during the dialogue with Elaine, she mentions the wreck and Guybrush says he saw it, and I was wondering if there’s alternate dialogue if you didn’t visit it beforehand.
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# ? Oct 28, 2022 18:19 |
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Zaroff posted:Do you have to visit the wreck of the Sea Monkey before being pushed off the cliff? Isn't one of the musical skulls there?
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# ? Oct 28, 2022 18:22 |
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Captain Hygiene posted:Isn't one of the musical skulls there? I thought that, and then I went down a rabbit hole thinking whether all the skulls were needed for the tune, and if not was that one of them that was needed…
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Zaroff posted:I thought that, and then I went down a rabbit hole thinking whether all the skulls were needed for the tune, and if not was that one of them that was needed… Oh that's right, I forgot that you only wind up using some of the skulls for their puzzle. Interesting.
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# ? Oct 28, 2022 18:51 |
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The safe is just going to have a piece of paper with some writing on it:The Secret posted:Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game
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Zaroff posted:Do you have to visit the wreck of the Sea Monkey before being pushed off the cliff? Captain Hygiene posted:Isn't one of the musical skulls there? Zaroff posted:I thought that, and then I went down a rabbit hole thinking whether all the skulls were needed for the tune, and if not was that one of them that was needed… Captain Hygiene posted:Oh that's right, I forgot that you only wind up using some of the skulls for their puzzle. Interesting. Is the tune randomised? Also, you have to actually look at the ship to identify it. I'll take a closer look this weekend as I won't be home tonight.
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Rocket Baby Dolls posted:Is the tune randomised? Also, you have to actually look at the ship to identify it. I'll take a closer look this weekend as I won't be home tonight. Pretty sure the tune is not randomized, given that LeChuck's theme has been around since Curse if not earlier. I wonder what happens if you don't get the music and just play it by ear?
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Rocket Baby Dolls posted:Is the tune randomised? It's the first bit of LeChuck's actual theme, so that won't change, but I didn't notice whether the notes each skull corresponds to were the same as in my playthrough.
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# ? Oct 28, 2022 18:59 |
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The theme will be the same but do the notes change the tone of it? One thing that I didn't show off is that if you leave the skulls on the points they won't be added to the ship, neither will Murray I'd you leave him behind too.
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# ? Oct 28, 2022 19:08 |
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I've just checked several walkthroughs and the skull puzzle pattern is the same in every one. Which does make sense logically but I wanted to be sure as there are a lot of randomized elements in the game.
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# ? Oct 28, 2022 21:18 |
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Yeah, do re mi fa so la ti do are verbal representations of a scale. You can't just change them around and shifting up or down them for your start point would put you in a different key playing wrong notes.
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# ? Oct 28, 2022 21:28 |
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Torrannor posted:Sooo... we will actually see the Secret of Monkey Island this time? For real? I can't imagine that Ron Gilbert, of all people, would ever string the audience with an open ended conclusion.
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# ? Oct 29, 2022 17:56 |
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It's kinda funny because, until the Secret became a running gag, I just assumed that it was the fact that there's a secret giant hell chamber underneath the island that you climb through a giant monkey statue's head to get to. Like, if you just show me that, I'll be like "yeah, that was a cool and satisfying secret, good job".
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# ? Oct 29, 2022 18:20 |
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EricFate posted:I can't imagine that Ron Gilbert, of all people, would ever string the audience with an open ended conclusion. Will we get the complimentary t-shirt though? I still have my Treasure of Meleé IslandTM and Defeater of the Swordmaster of Meleé IslandTM somewhere. Now that I wrote that, did they ever try to actually do some merchandising on those lines? Edit: Captain Hygiene posted:It's kinda funny because, until the Secret became a running gag, I just assumed that it was the fact that there's a secret giant hell chamber underneath the island that you climb through a giant monkey statue's head to get to. Like, if you just show me that, I'll be like "yeah, that was a cool and satisfying secret, good job". True, between hell and Big Whoop you'd think we'd be good on Secrets of Monkey IslandTM Omobono fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Oct 29, 2022 |
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Zaroff posted:Do you have to visit the wreck of the Sea Monkey before being pushed off the cliff? I kept a save file at the start of the third chapter so I was able to power through it and get back to this point. There's no way to avoid the location of the wreck entirely as the skull there gives us the "Mi" sound. But it turns out that if you avoid looking at the wreck it does give you a different line of dialogue when you're talking to Elaine. I'll do some more recording tomorrow as it's getting late here. I'm going to plan out the next update in the morning but I will record the line and look into the different ship configurations at the end of the chapter at some point before or after work. Omobono posted:Will we get the complimentary t-shirt though? I still have my Treasure of Meleé IslandTM and Defeater of the Swordmaster of Meleé IslandTM somewhere. I don't believe that LucasArts capitalised on a line of Monkey Island merchandise but after a quick search, I've seen plenty of other people trying to make money by selling bootleg T-shirts.
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# ? Oct 29, 2022 23:53 |
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I've completed a test run and I will try to record something within the next couple of days. There's only one thing that I'm unsure of but that's mainly because it's part of a larger puzzle, something that we already know about from the previous update. I've recorded the extra line and I'll add it to the next additional footage video as it's just going to be a single clip. I did look into the different combinations of skulls on a ship but it didn't really seem like it was worth compiling a video of all of the different configurations.
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A slightly shorter than usual video which is down to want to give the next segment of the game a fresh start. This video is mainly following Guybrush's jaunt around the island to see what's changed since he left and then it finishes with taking a closer look at the new map that Wally gave to us.
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