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It's still September and we've already had three Power 5 coach firings. That means it's time for an early edition of the College Football Coaching Carousel, which feels fitting after an insane offseason that saw USC and LSU poach highly successful coaches from Oklahoma and Notre Dame, among other things. Here are the completed hiring cycles as of December 13: Georgia Tech Out: Geoff Collins was not up to the task of turning Georgia Tech into both a normal and competent football program after a decade running the triple option to varying degrees of success. His Yellow Jackets sucked for three years and were off to a 1-3 start this season before the AD pulled the trigger. Being in Atlanta and with some degree of historical success, Tech is theoretically an appealing job. But it's also a nerd school in a conference with a bad TV deal that has a juggernaut in-state rival. In: Interim coach Brent Key went 4-4 and was given the full-time job after initial reports that Willie Fritz was going to Atlanta. Louisville Out: Scott Satterfield is finally gone for Cincinnati In: Native son Jeff Brohm makes his return after a nice run at Purdue. Nebraska Out: Scott Frost. The return of the prodigal son was a complete failure despite seeming like a smart hire at the time. Coming off his national championship* at UCF, it seemed like ersatz Jesse Plemons could restore Nebraska to at least some level of competency. Instead, after losing a million one-score games, he was unceremoniously dumped after losing to a Georgia Southern team installing an entirely new offense. Trev Alberts didn't even wait for the hefty buyout to drop October 1, using that Big Ten money to kickstart the search for the next Huskers head man. Unfortunately it's not 1995 anymore and Nebraska's brand is in the toilet. In: Matt Rhule, late of the Carolina Panthers, is hoping to return to his college form in Lincoln. He was successful at Temple and a post-scandal Baylor previously and his contract is huge. Wisconsin Out: Paul Chryst. One of the most consistent programs in the sport has fired a coach for the first time since before Barry Alvarez took over. A home blowout from a Bret Bielema-coached Illinois was the straw that broke the camel's back. In: Cincinnati's Luke Fickell, in the most out-of-nowhere move of the P5 cycle. Interim Jim Leonhard had ample opportunity to seize the job but probably lost it with a season-ending defeat at the hands of rival Minnesota. Purdue Out: Jeff Brohm has returned to Louisville In: Illinois DC Ryan Walters Arizona State Out: Herm Edwards. The strange and not-so-mysterious decision to hire Edwards after a decade away from coaching (and three decades away from doing it at the college level in any capacity) ended with the TV man getting fired in his own endzone following a loss to Eastern Michigan in which his team never led. Also there were massive NCAA violations going on before that and now there are reports that his own assistants were leaking the gameplan to the Sun Devils' opponents. In: Oregon offensive coordinator Kenny Dillingham, a 32-year-old alum and former assistant. Colorado Out: Karl Dorrell was left with a bare cupboard after Mel Tucker's abrupt exit from Colorado, and Buffs fans don't exactly have high expectations even though they were once a very good program. But they started this year looking like one of the worst teams in the history of power 5 football and the worst in franchise history. In: Deion Sanders! Coach Prime dominated the insular world of the SWAC, bringing attention (and controversy) to Jackson State not seen since the heyday of HBCU ball. Now he gets to experience a massive culture shift as he tries to turn it around in Boulder. Stanford: Out: After a couple of really stinky seasons, former model of consistency David Shaw has stepped down. In: Sacramento State coach Troy Taylor is making the leap from FCS to one of the hardest Power 5 jobs. Auburn Out: Bryan Harsin was compromised to a permanent end after dropping four straight (and five out of six with a miracle needed to win the one game in there). He was immediately unpopular and the AD who hired him was forced out. The university is now spending something like $50,000 a week on him and Gus Malzahn to not coach there. Beloved former running back Cadillac Williams did okay in the interim. Good luck to anyone walking into this tire fire. In: Hugh Freeze, perhaps the biggest scumbag in today's college coaching set. But he did beat Bama a couple of times back at Ole Miss. Cincinnati Out: Luke Fickell after Wisconsin came calling. In: Scott Satterfield for some reason, who was mediocre at Louisville, which happens to be their bowl opponent. Tulsa Out: Phillip Montgomery was canned with a career record of 43-53 In: Kevin Wilson, one-time Indiana coach with a career record of 26-47 UAB Out: Bill Clark resigned before the season due to health reasons after reviving the program from its murder and turning it into one of CUSA’s more solid program. Interim Bryan Vincent got them to a Bahamas Bowl but that was not enough for the permanent job. In: Trent Dilfer, who technically won a Super Bowl as a starting quarterback and has been a good high school coach in Tennessee. UAB is moving up to the American last year and I don't think many expect Dilfer to take advantage of the power vacuum in that conference. Charlotte Out: Will Healy got dumped after starting 1-7 this season. In: Biff Poggi, a former investment manager, high school coach in Baltimore, and Michigan assistant. Charlotte is moving up to the American too. Florida Atlantic Out: Willie Taggart. Boy his career really went off the rails huh. In: Tom Herman, who took Houston to new heights but did not reach the high expectations Texas placed upon him. Liberty Out: Hugh Freeze took the Auburn job after establishing them as a good G5 team. Who wants to coach Jerry Falwell's Flying Circus as they join CUSA? In: Coastal Carolina mullet man Jamey Chadwell South Florida Out: Jeff Scott after an abysmal few years in Tampa. USF has a decent history for a relatively recently founded program, and the American is losing three of its biggest powerhouses. In: Tennessee offensive coordinator Alex Golesh Western Michigan Out: Tim Lester is unexpectedly out in Kalamazoo less than a year after signing an extension. In: Louisville OC Lance Taylor UNLV Out: Marcus Arroyo seemed like he had started to get this abysmal program going to start 2022, but the Rebels crashed and burned after their 4-1 start, losing six in a row to miss out on a bowl for the ninth season in a row. In: Former Mizzou head coach and defensive specialist Barry Odom Coastal Carolina Out: Jamey Chadwell is gone for Liberty. In: Long-time reviled offensive mind Tim Beck, most recently of NC State Texas State Out: Jake Spavital's "lol gently caress high school recruiting in Texas" approach turned out to be bad! In: G.J. Kinne of high-powered FCS offense Incarnate Word Unfilled openings as of December 13: Mississippi State: Mike Leach died  Henchman of Santa fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Dec 13, 2022 |
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Sep 28, 2022 17:06
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I can't imagine a scenario where Karl Dorrell survives the season as Colorado's head coach.
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Sep 28, 2022 17:07
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Would put Drinkwitz at least on the warm seat. Probably hot seat. The QB situation at Mizzou is terrible, they will likely go winless in the SEC, the results are trending downward and he was another AD's hire. All bad things when he's in that pivotal 3rd year.
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Sep 28, 2022 17:08
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Sep 28, 2022 17:09
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JesustheDarkLord posted:I'm hoping not to be very interested in this thread I can't imagine Heupel leaving for any of these jobs or anyone that would reasonably become available.
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JesustheDarkLord posted:I'm hoping not to be very interested in this thread Same
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JesustheDarkLord posted:I'm hoping not to be very interested in this thread
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JesustheDarkLord posted:I'm hoping not to be very interested in this thread I’ve had enough of these threads over the past 12 years or so.
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Tad SG posted:I can't imagine a scenario where Karl Dorrell survives the season as Colorado's head coach. I could see them publicly firing him after their last game. A kind of acknowledgement that 1) he's not it, 2) they're not going to find anyone to step in in the meantime that's any better, and 3) they don't really have a rabid fanbase of donors looking to clear him out. But I honestly don't know much about the Colorado staff, and that could easily change if they have a charismatic former player on staff that the team/fanbase loves and would rally around to set the next coach up for greater success. See: Sonny Cumbie for TTU last season.
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JesustheDarkLord posted:I'm hoping not to be very interested in this thread James Franklin isn't going anywhere anytime soon not sure if that's good or bad or not
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Slight correction on Geoff Collins: It was Georgia Tech's president, Angel Cabrera, who pulled the trigger. AD Todd Stansbury was fired on the same day. Who did the firing is notable in that Stansbury is the one who hired Collins to the contract they still owe $12 million on and it was Stansbury who refused to even consider firing Collins after their flaming dumpster fire of a season last year.
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I find it amusing/amazing that both Frost and Collins, in "win now or be fired" seasons, came out of the gate with crappy special teams (though I guess Nebraska's were more individual coaching decisions compared to wholesale problems of the past few years). Of all the things to do. Like getting put on a Performance Improvement Plan and immediately showing up to work hungover.
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D.N. Nation posted:I find it amusing/amazing that both Frost and Collins, in "win now or be fired" seasons, came out of the gate with crappy special teams (though I guess Nebraska's were more individual coaching decisions compared to wholesale problems of the past few years). Of all the things to do. Like getting put on a Performance Improvement Plan and immediately showing up to work hungover. This was on purpose, wasn't it 
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JesustheDarkLord posted:I'm hoping not to be very interested in this thread
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Who do we feel are the hot mid-major coaches that're gonna move up? We know Lance Leipold will be a candidate places just based on his 4-0 start this season. Who else we got?
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kayakyakr posted:Who do we feel are the hot mid-major coaches that're gonna move up? 1) Rude, Kansas is technically a P5 job 2) the Kent State guy
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So, who's going to 'win' the Urban Meyer sweepstakes?
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Henchman of Santa posted:1) Rude, Kansas is technically a P5 job 
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kayakyakr posted:Who do we feel are the hot mid-major coaches that're gonna move up? Kane Wommack, who’s done miracles at my alma mater of South Alabama, has been mentioned for the Georgia Tech job in the media. They’ve been in FBS around a decade, had a couple of P5 upsets, but largely hovered around .500. The last coach was terrible. They were a few silly plays away from beating UCLA last week.
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GD_American posted:Kane Wommack, who’s done miracles at my alma mater of South Alabama, has been mentioned for the Georgia Tech job in the media. They’ve been in FBS around a decade, had a couple of P5 upsets, but largely hovered around .500. The last coach was terrible. That's a good one. I've been picking them to finish top 2 or 3 in the sun belt, which is not an easy task this year.
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I think that the market window has closed, or at least significantly narrowed, for Jeff Traylor of UTSA (ridiculous buyout and so far not repeating a Cinderella season) and Matt Campbell (Iowa State hotness seems to be fading).
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Achernar posted:So, who's going to 'win' the Urban Meyer sweepstakes? Notre Dame in 2024. People are kidding themselves if they think he’s jumping at Nebraska, dude’s not risking the legacy risk of getting owned by his successor at Ohio State
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Achernar posted:So, who's going to 'win' the Urban Meyer sweepstakes? Do we really think he’s coming back? He’s quit a couple times already, and his record at the college level is about as good as you could hope for. How much could he really accomplish beyond what he already did? Wouldn’t coming back to coaching college have a much higher chance of tarnishing his legacy as a college coach than improving it? And if he ends up having to play or even just recruit against Ohio State, suddenly the reverence for him there isn’t nearly what it is now. If he can’t stand not coaching he’d be wise to get an XFL job or something.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:James Franklin isn't going anywhere anytime soon I'm calling it good. I don't know how you'd find someone better, but I know you would definitely find someone worse. An 8 or 9 win season at least feels like back on the right track and that's ok with me. I'd rather be like "dang lost three games this season" than falling into the pit with Nebraska or wandering the wilderness for almost 20 years like Tennessee.
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After Florida, Ohio State, and the NFL, I don't see Urban Meyer coaching again. If he did, I doubt his ego would settle for anything other than Notre Dame or Southern Cal.
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LLCoolJD posted:his ego This is why I think Urban will coach again. Maybe not at Nebraska, but somewhere.
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Having finally come around on Jim Harbaugh last year, I'm excited to see how he leaves Michigan this year.
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Urban Meyer is the greatest living coach because he has taken programs from three conferences to big time bowl games and has won national championships with schools in two different conferences. By comparison, Nick Saban has little to show for his career as a head football coach. He has only ever gone to big bowl games or won national championships at SEC schools. His best team at Toledo was co-MAC-champion and did not go to a bowl game. His best team at Michigan State was second-place in the Big Ten. The conclusion here is obvious. Nick Saban must resign as the head football coach at Alabama and apply for the head coaching vacancy at Nebraska. If he truly wants to demonstrate parity with Urban Meyer he needs to come to Nebraska and win at least one national championship. He can then move to a school in some other conference and at least win the conference there. ... Serious talk, I don't think Urban will come to Nebraska. The cupboard is too bare and the recruiting would be much more difficult than he is used to. It would be so truly fitting for a known scumbag like Meyer to come to a place with such an undeserved "we do it the right way" smugness as Nebraska. Would Urbz take the Auburn job? He would get to go directly against Nick Saban at the end of every year. The booster situation is very bad, but if anyone can tame those psychos, it is Meyer. PBCrunch fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Sep 29, 2022 |
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Nah, I think back to his early press conferences with the jags where he talks about not being the same coach he used to be, and I think that was more of an admission that people realize. Dude still has the ego to do it, but having a direct comparison against Saban with Gus would drive him off a cliff fast when you consider his recruiting rep has absolutely taken a hit and he just doesn’t have the network of assistants hanging around anymore to do the hypervigilant CEO approach. He brought a good chunk of his Florida guys up to Ohio state and gambled on all his coordinator hires which worked great on offense (Herman) and horrible on defense (Withers). He can’t do that with Auburn when his Ohio state guys are either all gone for sucking at their jobs (Stud, Coombs), lifers (Johnson, Hartline, Wilson), hate him (Alford, Ash, Herman), or have head coaching jobs (Day, Fickell). If he does the same gamble and misses on a coordinator, Auburn’s not having it. If he does a third act (and I think he will if the right job opens), it’ll go like this: - Marcus Freeman flame out or Luke Fickell takes the Ohio State/ND job - Bring Urban in to rebuild ND or take over UC - Middling success but lose big games to end 2 seasons - Gamble on a coordinator replacement - Fail to get over hump because you can’t win a title there - Health Scare He’s not taking a job where he has to see Ohio State or Saban every year. Too much luster off his legacy as is. And he’s not taking jobs where the recruiting is harder than your main rival like a UCLA or Auburn. That’s going to limit the pool a bit, but his love of notre dame and weird relationship with UC make me think those would be options. Comedy option: Whitingham retires and they bring Urban in as a placeholder.
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PBCrunch posted:Serious talk, I don't think Urban will come to Nebraska. The cupboard is too bare and the recruiting would be much more difficult than he is used to. It would be so truly fitting for a known scumbag like Meyer to come to a place with such an undeserved "we do it the right way" smugness as Nebraska. Wait do Nebraska fans really feel this way? With the criminal issues with players back in the '90's and the steroids pioneering all being so public I would've figured that they would be more of a "ends justify the means" type group at this point. Especially since hiring a nice pleasant coach blew up in their faces so much after firing the rear end in a top hat who at least won 9 games a year.
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Chieves posted:I think that the market window has closed, or at least significantly narrowed, for Jeff Traylor of UTSA (ridiculous buyout and so far not repeating a Cinderella season) UTSA lost to Houston in OT and gave Texas 3/4ths of a game. If they split the next 2 games, they have a reasonable shot at 9-3 overall and the CUSA championship. The biggest thing holding back Jeff Traylor is that I think the only programs that can get him are the ones willing to offer him crazy money. UTSA's paying him a good salary and he turned down a 50% pay bump and signed that contract with the huge buyout #'s after TTU went after him last season. He's also so tightly tied to recruiting in the state of Texas, that I don't even think a regional team would be a possible landing spot. UT and A&M might be able to pull him away at some point, but otherwise he'll be at UTSA until he's bored of it. e: Urban Meyer talk: I could see him going to UC to try to win his 4th different conference championship in a almost-as-good-as big XII or similar at Pitt. Would have to have the right job open up. Then again, the guy's a nut, so he might jump at the next team to offer him a job. kayakyakr fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Sep 29, 2022 |
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drunk leprechaun posted:Wait do Nebraska fans really feel this way? With the criminal issues with players back in the '90's and the steroids pioneering all being so public I would've figured that they would be more of a "ends justify the means" type group at this point. Especially since hiring a nice pleasant coach blew up in their faces so much after firing the rear end in a top hat who at least won 9 games a year. I was thinking about something yesterday. Half the population is female. Right now there are twelve female assistant coaches in the NFL. There are a handful of female head coaches at the high school level. There are not enough great coaches to go around. I don't think there is any reason to believe that any of the requirements to be a great coach are unique to men. A growing number of coaches didn't play football at a high level. It kinda seems like half the potential candidates are kind of disqualified from the start and there could be some great football minds in there. In particular being a coach at three college level seems to involve a combination of social skills (recruiting), organization and delegation (choosing, recruiting, and managing a staff of assistants), and teaching. A person doesn't have to be a man to do any of those things. I'm trying my best to walk a tightrope of sexism here, but it seems like a female head coach could have a potentially large advantage in communicating with the mothers of players. Do you think that we will see a female head coach at an FBS program in our lifetime? Or will the inertia of the current methods of training existing coaches and the biases of players prevent this?
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PBCrunch posted:Many do, yes. Myself I am ready to accept "The means". Remember that Nebraska fans consider themselves the best fans in college football. You can't really be a good fan if you accept that great success in the field might be built using rotten materials. Head coach, no. Recruiting coordinators, analysts, QA jobs? Yes. Michigan has a woman on...I want to say strength and conditioning staff?
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Henchman of Santa posted:Head coach, no. Recruiting coordinators, analysts, QA jobs? Yes. Michigan has a woman on...I want to say strength and conditioning staff? Yeah this is the answer. Are there any female coaches of any men's teams at the D1 level? Or at least more than a handful? I expect football will be one of the last sports to accept a female head coach honestly.
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There has to be something to draw women into the profession. Since there are no legit women's leagues, it's not going to be being a former player, and as a demographic, women are less interested in the sport than men. Honestly, the participation of women's coaches is ahead of when I would expect it to be in our timeline of removing gender from our calculus when making hires. I would expect to continue to see it mirror women referees in % of participation. Could there be a woman head coach? Yes. Will she need to be from a coaching family dynasty to get her foot in the door? Absolutely.
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drunk leprechaun posted:Yeah this is the answer. Are there any female coaches of any men's teams at the D1 level? Or at least more than a handful? I expect football will be one of the last sports to accept a female head coach honestly. Football is probably going to be the last just because there's no women's program. Say what you will about playing experience being a requirement, there's like a billion applicants for every entry level position and it's easy enough for coaches to just go with someone they already know and trust like an ex-player, especially if that comes with some inherent advantages like a recent star might help with recruiting over an otherwise equally qualified rando. Basketball is likely the first because ex-womens players, especially WNBA pros, are starting to get respect and getting some of the lower level roles where they can move up. Women are starting to get Assistant GM roles at the NHL level in actual sporting related areas like player development and scouting rather than business roles like logistics as players on the US and Canadian national programs get recognition for their experience. Baseball has a woman GM, minor league head coach and some MLB coaches, most of whom have some sort of softball background. Even if they don't play at a super high level, I think there's an advantage to sports where women can play at an organized, competitive level as it does take a lot of desire and commitment to move up and it's hard to get that drive in something you can't fully take part in. Like a smart, determined, but not athletic young girl who might be the next coaching or analytic genius might focus on basketball over football because that's what her friends play growing up. Or just having the experience of being part of the team even at the end of the bench might push someone into thinking that they want to make the sport a part of their life going forward.
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pseudodragon posted:Or just having the experience of being part of the team even at the end of the bench might push someone into thinking that they want to make the sport a part of their life going forward. This is so very true. Lincoln Riley is a good example of a man taking this path, where he was a walk on QB for TTU there mostly just to throw practice interceptions and learn how to coach. There are other ways: Zac Kittley was a track assistant before deciding he wanted to be a GA for the football team. He played college basketball for a year. But even he had experience playing football in HS. So I think that's going to be the key to finding women to coach the sport: more women involved in youth football leads to more women involved in HS football leads to more women involved in coaching. The thing that will hurt that is that youth football is losing players because of, you know, CTE and stuff.
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