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Kawalimus posted:One thing this shows me is that regular thursday night games should go OUT THE DOOR!!!! There's no way guys should be playing that soon after just playing on sunday. And if they do play on thursday have it set up so that game is after a bye week for both teams. And maybe don't have the thurs game every week maybe like once every couple weeks or once a month. This doesn't get talked about nearly enough. Thursday Night Football games are almost always loving awful and they absolutely produce way higher injury rates because of the accelerated return poo poo. Getting rid of them would be a big benefit for the entire product -- not only are you going to improve the safety of the players, but you're going to get better games.
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I mean just extend the season a week, give every team a 2nd bye and put TNF games in there so you get 10 days in both directions. Boom, TNF is actually good now.
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Redeye Flight posted:This doesn't get talked about nearly enough. Thursday Night Football games are almost always loving awful and they absolutely produce way higher injury rates because of the accelerated return poo poo. Getting rid of them would be a big benefit for the entire product -- not only are you going to improve the safety of the players, but you're going to get better games. How would getting rid of TNF help the league make more money
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FizFashizzle posted:Would anyone be interested in a write up of concussions, post concussive syndrome, decorticate v decerebrate posturing, etc? That would be really cool if somebody qualified posted it.
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Kalli posted:I mean just extend the season a week, give every team a 2nd bye and put TNF games in there so you get 10 days in both directions. Boom, TNF is actually good now. Yeah that’s funny, what they’re actually gonna do is extend the season to 18 games as soon as legally permissible.
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It's never going to not be mind-boggling to me that the NFL doesn't want more bye weeks. Football fans watch football. If the Bengals are on a bye and they're not like two and eight or something I watch just as many football games on a bye week as I do on a week where my team is playing. More rest = more opportunity to get healthy = better spectacle In a lot of ways they've been getting better. The new IR and practice squad rules in particular are so much better than they were 5 years ago. I just do not get the insistence on one bye.
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Eifert Posting posted:It's never going to not be mind-boggling to me that the NFL doesn't want more bye weeks. Football fans watch football. If the Bengals are on a bye and they're not like two and eight or something I watch just as many football games on a bye week as I do on a week where my team is playing. I would bet its because the NFL has to have the superbowl on the 1st weekend of February do to tradition or something equally dumb.
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The real reason is ticket sales but that just seems so inconsequential considering the vast majority of income is from broadcast and that pot is split.
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Eifert Posting posted:It's never going to not be mind-boggling to me that the NFL doesn't want more bye weeks. Football fans watch football. If the Bengals are on a bye and they're not like two and eight or something I watch just as many football games on a bye week as I do on a week where my team is playing. They probably want another bye just not as much as the union does and know they can get something from players for it.
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Eifert Posting posted:The real reason is ticket sales but that just seems so inconsequential considering the vast majority of income is from broadcast and that pot is split.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Yeah but if they extend the season a week to add another bye thats another week of television ad revenue pouring in, another week of primetime games, ect THIS is the reason I don't understand why they don't want byes. It legit is extra cash for less work.
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Eifert Posting posted:The real reason is ticket sales but that just seems so inconsequential considering the vast majority of income is from broadcast and that pot is split. Do teams basically keep what they sell in their stadium? Owners being weird about that seems possible.
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Woozie66 posted:THIS is the reason I don't understand why they don't want byes. It legit is extra cash for less work. Yeah, some kind of schedule where teams get lots of byes, even if you played fewer overall games, might make more money. Like if my team was only playing every other week I'd still watch football every Sunday most likely. So if the season was 20 weeks long with 14 games, I'd watch 60 games instead of 51. I'm not sure how true that is for the average fan, but lots of people I know, even more casual fans, tend to watch more than just their team's games. wilderthanmild fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Sep 30, 2022 |
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Ches Neckbeard posted:They probably want another bye just not as much as the union does and know they can get something from players for it. That's a good point. Why willingly do something for free when they can extort something from the PA for it?
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It is kind of encouraging that the top 14 and all but 1 thread on the front page of the NFL subreddit are about Tua's injury.
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Paint Crop Pro posted:I would bet its because the NFL has to have the superbowl on the 1st weekend of February do to tradition or something equally dumb. They’ve already moved the Super Bowl back to the second weekend in February with the 17-game season. God help everyone in the future if the Super Bowl landed on Valentines Day… It’s an interesting subject because the NFL seems set on starting the week after Labor Day, a week after college football starts, so that means they’d have to extend further into February. If they add an 18th game, which will inevitably happen at some point, they’d be pushing out further. An extra bye for a then 20 week regular season might push the Super Bowl to the last weekend of February. As an aside, the NFL did experiment one year with a second bye week, in 1993. Teams viewed it as “too disruptive” and didn’t like it, so the second bye was dropped. Maybe views have changed now, I know fans have talked about it a lot, but even during previous discussion of expanding the season to 17 or potentially 18 games over the last decade+, I don’t recall much talk from the players, coaches, or the league about a second bye.
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FizFashizzle posted:Would anyone be interested in a write up of concussions, post concussive syndrome, decorticate v decerebrate posturing, etc? Here I got it since I had to take concussionwise protocols in order to coach and I have a masters in it. Concussions occur most often through a wrenching method. Post concussion syndrome happens in the onset of that event. It can range anywhere from two weeks to a few months depending on the person. There's not really a ton of evidence to say that some people are better at coming back from it or not. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK559135/ Here's a pubmed on the difference between posturing. Again both affected by the same stimulus but probably not fully understood by doctors yet.
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He totally cleared protocols everyday we promise guys! https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1575896647254609921 edit: it's particularly annoying that the league itself is going to take up the "back injury" lie. Nope no symptoms sunday until thursday night when he went full posturing. drat the publics lying eyes. Ches Neckbeard fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Sep 30, 2022 |
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Ches Neckbeard posted:He totally cleared protocols everyday we promise guys!
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Looks like decorticate posturing to me, fingers curling inward near the face Can we see whether his legs are twisted inward on the replay?
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and Tretter (NFLPA President) has finally spoken up https://twitter.com/JCTretter/status/1575907529200402432 edit: embed cropping out a couple paragraphs 
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:He really just used the Notes app? It’s an early sign of CTE 
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fartknocker posted:As an aside, the NFL did experiment one year with a second bye week, in 1993. Teams viewed it as “too disruptive” and didn’t like it, so the second bye was dropped. Maybe views have changed now, I know fans have talked about it a lot, but even during previous discussion of expanding the season to 17 or potentially 18 games over the last decade+, I don’t recall much talk from the players, coaches, or the league about a second bye. I know that the perspective from other sports (specifically baseball) is that players dislike down time because athletic skills rust up alarmingly fast. Not in terms of forgetting how to throw a baseball, but when you're at the high performance levels that modern sports hit, you can lose a shocking amount of edge from any amount of down time. That said, as this poo poo shows, it can be much worse to lose the recovery period. But a lot of players aren't thinking about that, because the environment they're in seriously discourages doing so. If their future livelihood didn't depend so much on performing outrageously within such an extremely tight time window, that might not be as widespread. Shocking news: Capitalism Causes Problem, eh. And having said that, those viewpoints may be changing in modern times -- we've been getting a lot more aggressive coverage of gruesome injuries like this and our understanding and awareness of how much damage these injuries can do is getting better and more widespread. If the season DOES go to 18 games I think there'd HAVE to be a second bye week. Otherwise, by the current design you could get a team with an early bye that has to play fuckin' 16 or 17 weeks straight, if they go to the postseason as a wildcard.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:He really just used the Notes app? Lots of people do this when they want to send a tweet that’s longer than the character limit and don’t want to do a long thread
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tarbrush posted:He's actually in the concussion protocol now, so I would imagine he'll be out for a few weeks as no sane independent* doctor is going to let him back in to get a 3rd concussion They were saying on all the morning talk shows, and in this article...yes, i'm the guy who watches Get Up!...that the person with the final say in the concussion protocol is the team doctor. So, that's great. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/30/sports/tua-tagavailoa-nfl-concussion-protocol.html
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It's amazing how the Dolphins game has taken such a big poo poo on the week already. The worst lead in to Sunday of all time! Thanks you stupid loving fish.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Lots of people do this when they want to send a tweet that’s longer than the character limit and don’t want to do a long thread lots of people aren't the president of the NFLPA just put together a dang release
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here's something else nauseating about the national football league da bears
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Incompetent or unethical doctors Killed my sweet Hawaiian roll 😞 Cleveland browns and a selective few gross rear end fans that cheer it are still allowed to have a literal rapist on their team 😞 Detroits medical team is apparently ultra cheap Patriots celebrate hiring a rapist and helping him earn extra money in the process Ugh this leagues really going in the toilet. It’s tough to compartmentalize it all… But i just can’t imagine the nfl going away anytime soon.
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Amy Pole Her posted:Incompetent or unethical doctors Killed my sweet Hawaiian roll 😞 what did you except when they are sponsored by little caesers, the pizza I am led to believe is what American companies serve employees as the minimal amount of effort for a "pizza party". Little Caeser indeed, the real Caeser would let you just friggin plunder a city state for reaching a record setting Nielsen rating!
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How can we hold up NFL players as national heros when none of them, not a one, have earned a mural crown
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Amy Pole Her posted:Incompetent or unethical doctors Killed my sweet Hawaiian roll 😞 i'm gonna be honest, this cover of we didn't start the fire absolutely sucks
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Amy Pole Her posted:Incompetent or unethical doctors Killed my sweet Hawaiian roll 😞 Don't forget multiple owners being criminals and sex pests. Or a vile WR getting rewarded by being the highest paid at his position with no one talking about his past anymore. We also spent last year being force fed a farewell tour for another rapist. That all being said, I don't really think the league is "worse" than it ever was. I think we're all just paying more attention.
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Woozie66 posted:Don't forget multiple owners being criminals and sex pests. Or a vile WR getting rewarded by being the highest paid at his position with no one talking about his past anymore. We also spent last year being force fed a farewell tour for another rapist. Kobe Bryant raped a woman and people on this forum were writing hagiographies of him when he died. It’s not sport-specific, we’re just tuned as a nation to forgive powerful people their trespasses. Trying to Parm Basil our way to which league is more morally correct than others will only lead us to madness.
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Oh absolutely. But this scrutiny, this icky feeling we all have, IS progress as hosed up as that sounds. All this poo poo has been happening for decades, but no one cares before.
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Freaquency posted:Parm Basil Is this a goon or something? Google is only giving me parmesan and basil recipes
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