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Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




music now has the same problem as video games -- there's too much of it out there, and enough really good stuff that unless you treat it like a job you'll barely scratch the surface. it fragments the shared cultural experience because it's so easy to get lost in little niche genres and indie stuff, not to mention all the recycled and repurposed music through endless covers, remixes, remixes of remixes, mashups, etc.

it's a good problem for an individual because you'll never run out of new cool stuff, but worse for broad social recognition and overlap.

maybe part of it is just getting older and realizing there's more than just the heavily commercialized stuff, but in my teens and 20s it was pretty easy for me to answer someone who asked what kind of music i listened to. if someone asks me that now, they're probably not gonna recognize anything except the oldies (by which i mean stuff like the cure or radiohead, not what that term meant when i grew up).

e: in 20 years the current scene will seem downright quaint and tiny compared to the bespoke AI generated music streams tailored to individuals, ensuring that you never once listen to the same music as anyone else ever again except for live concerts.

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Jun 17, 2019




Mumpy Puffinz posted:

its not just music and video games, it's entertainment. There is no center, no top 100 songs with Casey Casem anymore. Youtube and twitch are fine, but there is nothing bringing people together anymore

you're right, but not all areas of entertainment are so fragmented. or, at least not movies and streaming shows. those still seem to have some kind of center hanging on. i hear people at work talking about the big budget shows and movies they watch with much more in common than music, books, and games. they also seem to overlap more age groups.

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Jun 17, 2019




Mumpy Puffinz posted:

It's kinda weird. How does the watercooler talk go if everyone is watching a different show. I don't know

my experience is people are watching the same shows. people at work occasionally chat about whatever marvel movie they saw, or if they're parents the kids/disney movies their kids watch over and over. at least half the people i know are watching at least one of the new GoT or LotR shows if not both right now. some of my old high school friends and i keep in touch through a discord, and we mostly have different tastes in music and games, but still talk about shows we all watch.

it's not 100% overlap, but compared to music, books, games and stuff, there's way more common ground with TV and movies.

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Jun 17, 2019




mobby_6kl posted:

It's not just the total amount but also the access too. It used to be a big deal to get a tape or CD of something I heard about, either because it wasn't available or I didn't have money. Nowadays I get the new album the moment it's released, listen to it, go "eh" and move on. It's kind of a bummer actually.

yeah access is part of it, and also how easy it is to self-produce creates vastly more choices. i think that's part of why TV and movies still maintain some kind of cultural center, because they're a lot more expensive to make.

one person can write a book or an album. a small team, or sometimes even one person, can release a great indie game or do a podcast. you just need more people and capital investment to produce a show (not counting stuff like twitch streaming or running a youtube talking head channel) so it's a slightly smaller space with more concentrated viewership.

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Jun 17, 2019




mobby_6kl posted:

I've heard people talk about GOT. Back when I used to go to the office, before the pandemic.

i'm mostly remote, but people talk about shows in group chats and sometimes in teams calls while we're waiting around for everyone to show up or whatever.

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