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I’m a second-generation Latin American, born in the United States. Under juris sanguinis, I would like to claim Italian (and therefore EU) citizenship through my great-grandfather. Reason being that the United States sucks and I hate it and I want to leave. Please tell me about the process, how hard it is, and what to expect. TL;DR: my grandmother’s father was Italian. My dad has used this fact to get an Italian passport, though not Italian citizenship (yet?). We have living relatives in Italy, and my father keeps in contact with them and has visited the country several times, so we are not entirely unknown there. My siblings have tried getting Italian citizenship, but it proved difficult for the following reasons: - Our birth certificates had some typographical/clerical errors that annoyed some consulate or another - My dad needs to locate the documentation proving his juris sanguinis and that’s somewhere in Miami - The process requires lawyer assistance which is apparently a huge pain - Wait times are super long Adding to the complication is that my name and gender marker on my birth certificate do not match my current legal name and gender marker, so I can see some bureaucrat whining about it. Has anyone here claimed Italian citizenship through their ancestors? If so, did it work out for you? How hard was it? Any tips? (Also, I might have the option to claim Spanish heritage instead via my mom’s grandfather, but my family hasn’t explored that before. Maybe Spain would be easier?)
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Oct 17, 2022 16:27
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Thank you for all the info! I can confirm that he has a normal Italian passport, so he is in fact a citizen. Makes me wonder what the documentation issue is now. (Edit: that may not be the case, according to my local Italian consulate: quote:Even if relatives of yours have submitted common ancestors’ documentation at another Italian Consulate prior to your application, you must resubmit all original documents (with the appropriate legalizations from other consulates etc.) At this office on the day of the appointment It looks like I can’t argue that I qualify as a descendant of my father. I have to argue that I qualify as a descendant of my great grandfather. That is loving stupid.) Lemme go over this info and take a look at the forum - thanks again! Pollyanna fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Oct 20, 2022 |
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Oct 20, 2022 13:19
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Okay, a little bit more info. Dad is a triple citizen. His most recent citizenship is his Italian citizenship which he got after I was born, 15~20 years ago. I would have been 12~17 years old, so before I turned 18. That time has since passed, of course, and it seems easier to get citizenship for a country when you’re underage than when you’re of age. Gotta go document hunting either way.
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Oct 20, 2022 14:42
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Pollyanna posted:Thank you for all the info! I think we found our documentation issue! The problem boils down to this: my father has proven and gained his Italian citizenship. As his direct descendant i.e. daughter, I argue that I qualify for Italian citizenship because my father is an Italian citizen. Italian nationality law seems to argue that proving my descent from my father is not enough, and that I need to prove my descent with the exact same lineage as my father did - all the way to my great grandfather. So, merely being the descendant of an Italian citizen is clearly not enough to claim Italian citizenship.  I don’t know why this is a thing.
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