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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

Staluigi posted:

Ok sounds like you felt you had the answer when you asked the question so was there a specific intent in asking

go back and read the first post in this thread for a fun surprise

re: OP: the biggest reason autocratic countries tend to be culturally conservative is that The Old Days were, almost universally, a time when wealthy aristocrats controlled every aspect of a country's politics, top-to-bottom, with no pretense of input from any other groups. as such, instituting a regime of central control by that small group alone is inherently wrapped up in rhetoric about going back to the good old days. when putting them back on top doesn't actually fix any of the problems inherent to modern life, those same aristocrats are obliged to pretend that it's the incompleteness of the return to the past that is why people are still unhappy, because the alternative is them forfeiting their grip on power, and they not only will they very frequently do kill a large number of people to prevent that from happening.

the idea that "authoritarianism" is some kind of moral contagion experienced by segments of the population seemingly at random is ideologically convenient horseshit, but horseshit. people become 'authoritarians' when they see an advantage to them, personally, in authority flexing its muscles on their behalf. examples range from records of street-level SS captains in Nazi Germany getting extremely pissy that the only way they could get anyone outside the Party to participate in jew-oppression was by telling people they could loot Jewish businesses, to nice, polite American liberals demanding that desegregation activists be brought to heel before their children have to go to the same school as a black person. politically speaking, nobody takes a look at the government accomplishing their core political goals violently and says "no don't do that that would be wrong." it's just that when my team does it, it's regrettably necessary use of force, and when your team does it, it's authoritarianism.

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