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Rochallor posted:Heavy agree, my jaw dropped the first time I saw that cliffhanger. It feels very biting and more than a little self-referential in a way that's years ahead of its time.
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Nov 1, 2023 13:53
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Just to note, if you go and watch the episodes in the non "tales from the tardis" section of the site, the episodes are all intact, Varos's cliffhanger and all. Tales is it's own thing independent of the original episodes.
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Nov 1, 2023 13:56
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Fil5000 posted:Just to note, if you go and watch the episodes in the non "tales from the tardis" section of the site, the episodes are all intact, Varos's cliffhanger and all. Tales is it's own thing independent of the original episodes. Yep, that's understood and is how I'll be watching going forwards (iPlayer is generally nicer and more stable than Britbox). Last thought. The Tales of the TARDIS thing just has new intros and outros, there's no cut-ins during the stories or commentary to my knowledge (i have not seen the full things so I don't know if they have dubbed anything in). Nonetheless, they could do an Eighth Doctor one of these and make it brilliant. but they would need to change the format a tad and pair him with some decidedly noncanon companions... 
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Nov 1, 2023 14:00
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Warthur posted:Yep, that's understood and is how I'll be watching going forwards (iPlayer is generally nicer and more stable than Britbox). They even have a Doctor Who scarf all ready to go, from when they tried to turn Mike into the hero Coatimundi Man! 
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Nov 1, 2023 14:15
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut_u42a-JCc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo9wzX_FE1U God, the First's chuckle, his mannerisms, quirks, and warts... bless David Bradley, but...he just can't capture Hartnell's energy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgGFdxODsQU "Well I don't know that I was under any obligation to report my movements to you, Chesterfield." "Chesterton." "Oh, Barbara's calling you." 
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Nov 1, 2023 15:25
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Related to the Tales of the TARDIS, I was on wikipedia trying to figure out which companions were still alive and learned that not only has Big Finish produced 6 (!) boxsets starring the robots from The Robots of Death, but also that this isn't even the first time a range of audios has revolved around the robots from The Robots of Death: there was an entirely separate audio series produced in the 2000s by a different company. I am now officially starting to wonder if this whole audio drama thing is just a front for, I dunno, drug smuggling, because how do those make money?
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Nov 1, 2023 15:46
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Rochallor posted:Related to the Tales of the TARDIS, I was on wikipedia trying to figure out which companions were still alive and learned that not only has Big Finish produced 6 (!) boxsets starring the robots from The Robots of Death, but also that this isn't even the first time a range of audios has revolved around the robots from The Robots of Death: there was an entirely separate audio series produced in the 2000s by a different company. I am now officially starting to wonder if this whole audio drama thing is just a front for, I dunno, drug smuggling, because how do those make money? Kaldor City! I've been meaning to look into that since it's explicitly a crossover between Blake's 7 and Doctor Who, or at least Chris Boucher's corner of Doctor Who (and Boucher was arguably the real showrunner of Blake's 7 anyway).
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Nov 1, 2023 15:53
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jisforjosh posted:
There are roving TV vans in the US detecting when someone is using a VPN set to the UK and demanding your back licensing fees.
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Nov 1, 2023 15:56
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Warthur posted:Kaldor City! I've been meaning to look into that since it's explicitly a crossover between Blake's 7 and Doctor Who, or at least Chris Boucher's corner of Doctor Who (and Boucher was arguably the real showrunner of Blake's 7 anyway). If you liked Avon from B7, but always wished he was just a teensy bit more cunning and ruthless, then the Kaldor City audios are right up your street. 
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Nov 1, 2023 16:34
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Random Stranger posted:There are roving TV vans in the US detecting when someone is using a VPN set to the UK and demanding your back licensing fees. A crack squad of Beefeaters, parachuting into US cities, dragging non license payers into the street and holding them down so ravens can eat them. Edit: Hang on, is The Five(ish) Doctors Reboot not actually on iPlayer still somehow? Fil5000 fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Nov 1, 2023 |
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Nov 1, 2023 16:35
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The new issue of SFX is out, featuring interviews with RTD and David Tennant and others. A couple of interesting quotes from RTD: “Next year, season one. Yes, we’re calling it season one” “I’m not going to unwrite my good friend Chris Chibnall’s work on ‘The Timeless Children’. I’m not going to deny what he wrote. I’m going with it. It’s absolutely fine. It’s canon. It happened. It was transmitted. You cannot unwrite things, that would be absolutely rude to a great colleague and a lovely friend.” None of the articles give anything away about Special #2 however, other than it’s ‘weird’.
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Nov 1, 2023 18:45
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Creature posted:
lol that the idea of it came up as a topic at all
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Nov 1, 2023 18:50
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Wild Blue Yonder is meant to be the actual anniversary special, but it’s very very under wraps. Also, ‘not going to undo it’ and ‘not going to mention it’ are two different ideas.
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Nov 1, 2023 18:51
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The_Doctor posted:Wild Blue Yonder is meant to be the actual anniversary special, but it’s very very under wraps. As is "not going to write something which keeps it in but puts a different spin on it". Wasn't it mentioned somewhere in the 8th Doctor tie-in media (BBC Books line?) that, owing to being as active a time traveller as he is and being involved in as many conflicts with time-travelling opponents as he has, the Doctor's background is in flux anyway? So the Lungbarrow backstory works, the half-human backstory works, the "random Gallifreyan who got bored" backstory works, the Timeless Child backstory works... It would be hard for RTD to outright contradict other backstories whilst being precious about Chibnall's take without looking at least a little hypocritical there. Why does Chibnall deserve more respect than the people who contributed those other ideas?
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Nov 1, 2023 18:56
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Well if it's canon for good I'll just root for the Cybermen and Daleks to take out the Timelords and the Doctor.
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Nov 1, 2023 18:56
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Warthur posted:As is "not going to write something which keeps it in but puts a different spin on it". This is the full piece on how he deals with existing canon: quote:Given that Davies established a new Who mythology sans-Gallifrey prior to the 2005 series, how beholden does he feel to the lore that's been established since he left?
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Nov 1, 2023 19:06
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That sounds like "I will contradict the half-human thing from the TV movie because I had fanrage about it and wasn't involved in the show, but I won't contradict the thing my friend wrote."
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Nov 1, 2023 19:18
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Well, I feel vindicated in my decision to give the returning RTD's second stab at NuWho a miss
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Nov 1, 2023 19:23
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Let's not forget that RTD also once wrote, on the topic of canon, "Paul McGann doesn't count". In Queer As Folk, about 25 years ago
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Nov 1, 2023 19:27
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Warthur posted:That sounds like "I will contradict the half-human thing from the TV movie because I had fanrage about it and wasn't involved in the show, but I won't contradict the thing my friend wrote." No, I'm pretty sure the timeless child was half-human and that's how he's resolving it.
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Nov 1, 2023 19:30
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That reads less like RTD is interested in actually dealing with the Timeless Child and more like paying lip service to the stuff that's come before which he will proceed to totally ignore. It's pretty easy to just never mention it again without outright refuting it. (Also, I'll say it again, Susan as the Timeless Child makes perfect sense, is actually additive to the Doctor's origins, and Carole Ann Ford is pretty old, you've not got a lot of chances left to tell that story!) Weirdly, the Doctor being half human has come up from time to time, Hell Bent at least cheekily winks at it. There's a bit in Alien Bodies I think where some Time Lord is radioing home to Gallifrey like, "Yes sir, apparently he's half-human now. No, I don't understand it either."
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Nov 1, 2023 19:35
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That full RTD quote read pretty clearly to me that he's just not ever going to bring it up, which, good enough for me.
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Nov 1, 2023 19:48
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Gonna be awkward when 80% of RTDs specials are shot in the void of reality where nothing exists since most of the universe was destroyed.
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Nov 1, 2023 20:50
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and that's after Logopolis destroyed 25% of the universe, which according to my calculations means Negative 5% of the universe remains and the specials will all take place in E-space
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Nov 1, 2023 20:55
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usenet celeb 1992 posted:That full RTD quote read pretty clearly to me that he's just not ever going to bring it up, which, good enough for me. Absolutely. And why would he? He barely ever touched the Doctor's origins and mythos in the first place. Mythological backstory is something nerds like us love to quibble over, but he's never been interested in making that the dramatic thrust of his stories.
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Nov 1, 2023 20:57
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Lottery of Babylon posted:and that's after Logopolis destroyed 25% of the universe, which according to my calculations means Negative 5% of the universe remains and the specials will all take place in E-space I'd love it for the Doctor to Steiner Math the week's villian.
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Nov 1, 2023 21:02
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Vinylshadow posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut_u42a-JCc These are fantastic. But as was mentioned, incredibly saccharine and hitting the fankwank HARD. But I love it. Also, glad they're putting them up on YouTube - as my VPN apparently has been ID'd by the BBC cyber division and is being actively blocked.
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Nov 1, 2023 21:05
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Awwwwwww Sly 
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Nov 1, 2023 22:01
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Just undo the Cyber Timelords I hate it so much
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Nov 1, 2023 22:06
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I'm fine if he just never brings in the Timelords altogether, they've just been crap every time they're on screen after War Games.
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Nov 1, 2023 22:19
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Fil5000 posted:Edit: Hang on, is The Five(ish) Doctors Reboot not actually on iPlayer still somehow? It's not in the episode listings, but it is still up on the minisite.
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Nov 1, 2023 22:54
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usenet celeb 1992 posted:I'm fine if he just never brings in the Timelords altogether, they've just been crap every time they're on screen after War Games. Timelords are cool when its emotional poo poo for the Doctor to deal with as a character. Any time they physically show up in their goofy outfits, they either have some dumb rear end hell evil plan going on or we get a glimpse of their incredibly stupid and lovely society, and it makes me embarrassed for the Doctor. If I were them I'd distance myself from the Timelords, like, most beings in most points of history in most of the galaxy have never heard of the Timelords. Simply not bringing it up works (99 - Cyberman/Daleks) percent of the time!
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Nov 1, 2023 23:14
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Yeah, Timelord society is explicitly boring and despotic in the classic series, and the Gallifreyans who turn up in New Who are the psychotic state loyalists who survived Rassilon's purges. I think it's telling that when Moffat wants to introduce a sympathetic voice on Gallifrey he went with Ohlia, a member of an order exiled from Gallifrey for the crime of having different religious beliefs (and, probably, for being women).
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Nov 1, 2023 23:34
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The Timelords are rad because they did the best Doctor Who novelty single of the 1980s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsAVx0u9Cw4 On a more serious level, I like the Deadly Assassin, but I like it mostly because it shows that somewhere between the War Games and that the Time Lords lost their grip and went into a steep decline. That's cool and fine, let that happen and then let the Doctor go do Doctor stuff. The more their society collapses the more the Doctor's decision to leave is exonerated.
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Nov 2, 2023 00:35
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I love them so much 
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Nov 2, 2023 03:49
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVeTVt0ueXU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFa-zwXgV3A Some things never change, whether it's who's playing the Doctor or trying to line up regeneration transitions
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Nov 2, 2023 04:07
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McGann posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpJIJORy45c Absolutely agreed on all fronts. "It's time to grow up." they immediately steal the TARDIS
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Nov 2, 2023 04:41
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Like we all wouldn't do the same thing if we had the chance Where we
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Nov 2, 2023 05:49
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I also kind of like the implication that with Peri it's not the Sixth Doctor, it's the Curator.
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So interestingly Tales From the TARDIS seems happy to go with canonising a Tegan/Nyssa relationship, which is both a fan favourite and something RTD did for a short story he wrote set at Sarah Jane's funeral, but also got elided by Chibnall in Power of the Doctor where Tegan shows up and mentions a string of husbands but does not allude to Nyssa at all. So I guess RTD is not regarding Chibnall canon as immutable despite any interview answers.
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