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Jerusalem posted:Yep, it was completely carried by his performance. It's mindblowing how it went from the hottest thing on television to a nonsensical self-congratulatory mess in such a small number of episodes, even if they were spread over far too many years. But hey, Moffat.
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Oct 26, 2023 21:21
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The final episode is legimately, astonishingly awful. Like, just staggeringly so.
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Oct 26, 2023 21:24
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Jerusalem posted:The final episode is legimately, astonishingly awful. Like, just staggeringly so. The one episode so bad an entire fandom gaslit itself into believing there was going to be a REAL secret ending episode. Good times.
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Oct 26, 2023 21:28
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Gods, it was just so bad. Between ignoble endings to things I once loved and every other creator I admired turning out to be a monster, I have a *really* hard time getting invested in art now. It takes something really special. Sherlock and Doctor Who broke my heart so bad I'm afraid to love again.
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Oct 26, 2023 21:32
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Boxturret posted:Ooo nice I'll have to look in to that. He and Michael Williams (as Watson) did the entire Holmes canon of stories and novels; after Williams' passing, Andrew Sachs took over and they did a further 15 stories in "The Further Adventures of Sherlock Holmes", based on references from the original stories. And both Tom Baker and Peter Davison appear in one ep apiece!
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Oct 26, 2023 21:36
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The cracks show pretty early on, with episode 2 being some weird yellow peril stuff where the central mystery is how someone could have been murdered in a locked room with no possible entrances or exits except for the wide-open unlocked window. The nonsense with Irene Adler was, what, episode four? It just wasn't as blatant early on as it was in the later seasons where you had things like the violet feminist KKK.
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Oct 26, 2023 22:07
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Small Strange Bird posted:It's mindblowing how it went from the hottest thing on television to a nonsensical self-congratulatory mess in such a small number of episodes, even if they were spread over far too many years. But hey, Moffat. At least he speed ran the process with the Dracula series
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Oct 27, 2023 00:29
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A show I've never watched but remember because a friend recommended it enthusiastically a few times then really strongly telling us to disregard and do not bother. Never even learned the specifics, just kept that mental note.
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Oct 27, 2023 02:09
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Senor Tron posted:At least he speed ran the process with the Dracula series Oh my God you reminded me of the Dracula series  I think the second episode was.... okay? I can't really tell if I just think that because the other two were so bad, and the third one in particular was AWFUL. Moffat brought me incredible joy with most of his run on Doctor Who but Jesus Christ did late Sherlock and all of Dracula sour me on checking out anything else he's doing. That most recent series he did about the fake pedophile priest(???) sounded so astonishingly terrible too.
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Oct 27, 2023 03:53
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I do wonder about whether Doctor Who might have been better if Moffat had just handed Sherlock over to someone else straight away, Gatiss maybe, and had just focused on the one thing.
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Oct 27, 2023 06:06
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Jerusalem posted:Oh my God you reminded me of the Dracula series The 2nd one was the ship voyage right? That one was alright and Claes Bang was great throughout. Fresh off the end of Series 5 in 2010, riding the high of Moffat's 1st season, I sought out more of his work and decided to watch Jekyll...and I feel insane looking up the show now and seeing 8/10 and 4.5/5 stars
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Oct 27, 2023 06:13
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Or maybe Sherlock acted as a barrier and without it the Doctor would have had to go through a Saw challenge hosted by their super secret sister or use his giant brain to survive getting shot.
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Oct 27, 2023 06:13
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jisforjosh posted:The 2nd one was the ship voyage right? That one was alright and Claes Bang was great throughout. Fresh off the end of Series 5 in 2010, riding the high of Moffat's 1st season, I sought out more of his work and decided to watch Jekyll...and I feel insane looking up the show now and seeing 8/10 and 4.5/5 stars I remember really enjoying Jekyll, but I don’t think I’ve actually watched it for over a decade. Don’t tell me it’s aged poorly. 
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Oct 27, 2023 06:27
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The final Sherlock ep was on tv again recently (one of the UK digital channels just plays it endlessly amongst their scheduling), and I watched (some of) it for the first time since broadcast. It is utterly poo poo, with nothing worth redeeming. Somehow I forgot that Sherlock’s sister literally has superpowers. 
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Oct 27, 2023 14:47
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So what I'm hearing is, I need to rewatch Elementary. And I never knew about the Clive Merrison radio plays. Time to use a VPN to download them from the BBC player!
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Oct 27, 2023 15:48
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The_Doctor posted:The final Sherlock ep was on tv again recently (one of the UK digital channels just plays it endlessly amongst their scheduling), and I watched (some of) it for the first time since broadcast. It is utterly poo poo, with nothing worth redeeming. Somehow I forgot that Sherlock’s sister literally has superpowers. She's just. So. Smart. That she can brain wash anyone just by talking to them and manages to turn an ultra high security secret prison in to her own personal Saw labyrinth. Its....something.
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Oct 27, 2023 16:31
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Also his sister isn't Enola Holmes, the character from the novels or the recent Netflix films, it's a totally original character called... Eurus Holmes.
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Oct 27, 2023 16:38
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Boxturret posted:Or maybe Sherlock acted as a barrier and without it the Doctor would have had to go through a Saw challenge hosted by their super secret sister or use his giant brain to survive getting shot. Replace sister with Master and brain with second heart and that's most episodes.
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Oct 27, 2023 17:37
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Boxturret posted:or use his giant brain to survive getting shot. If you think about it, that's the main plot of series six. PriorMarcus posted:Also his sister isn't Enola Holmes, the character from the novels or the recent Netflix films, it's a totally original character called... Eurus Holmes. They should do the opposite of the "dog was actually a childhood friend" twist by revealing that his sister, Equus Holmes, was actually his childhood pet horse.
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Oct 27, 2023 17:52
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Lottery of Babylon posted:They should do the opposite of the "dog was actually a childhood friend" twist by revealing that his sister, Equus Holmes, was actually his childhood pet horse. I can't believe this whole time his sister was bad horse.
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Oct 27, 2023 18:07
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Bad horse?
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Oct 27, 2023 18:24
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Flashback to Watson in therapy with a horse wearing a wig. Watson flirting with a horse on the bus.
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Oct 27, 2023 18:27
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DoctorWhat posted:Bad horse?
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Oct 27, 2023 18:30
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He's bad!
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Oct 27, 2023 18:46
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Boxturret posted:I can't believe this whole time his sister was bad horse. Only way to deal with that is a bad wolf.
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Oct 27, 2023 19:33
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Bad Hoof
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Oct 27, 2023 19:43
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When do we meet the Pigs of varying construction ability?
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Oct 27, 2023 21:11
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The_Doctor posted:The final Sherlock ep was on tv again recently (one of the UK digital channels just plays it endlessly amongst their scheduling), and I watched (some of) it for the first time since broadcast. It is utterly poo poo, with nothing worth redeeming. Somehow I forgot that Sherlock’s sister literally has superpowers. I don't think I'll ever rewatch it. It completely destroyed any goodwill I had for the show.
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Oct 28, 2023 03:35
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Dabir posted:BOOMERANG i am SHERlocked Fair Bear Maiden posted:The one episode so bad an entire fandom gaslit itself into believing there was going to be a REAL secret ending episode. Good times. Apple Tree Yard, yeah.
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Oct 28, 2023 03:43
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The last good Sherlock episode was the wedding one. It was dumb and funny and should have ended right there.
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Oct 28, 2023 04:19
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https://www.doctorwho.tv/news-and-features/welcome-to-the-whoniverse-and-tales-of-the-tardisquote:
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Oct 30, 2023 20:16
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https://twitter.com/PeteMcTighe/status/1719067281001439529?s=20 They're coming this week as well!
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Oct 30, 2023 20:24
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OK, turns out Clyde is a character from Sarah Jane Smith and they aren't pairing up Katy Manning with some random dude.
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Oct 30, 2023 20:29
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Rochallor posted:OK, turns out Clyde is a character from Sarah Jane Smith and they aren't pairing up Katy Manning with some random dude. Yeah, I think they met in that one Sarah Jane Adventures episode where Sarah Jane and Jo Grant met and teamed up for the very first time.
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Oct 30, 2023 20:36
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Parsing the press release it looks like these are feature-length "here's an overview of this Doctor's tenure to give you a taster of what they were like!" things with a nice story in the framing device to give warm fuzzies to people who already know and love the eras in question. Not a terrible idea. I note that they have pairings for all the classic Doctors except the Fourth - maybe they're going to do that later? Or perhaps they decided they really need to do two given the wide scope of tones his period took in. Tom and Lalla are on speaking terms these days, right? I guess the thinking behind the Third Doctor pairing is that the Brigadier, Third Doctor, Sarah Jane, and Liz Shaw are too dead to participate, Mike Yates is too cancelled due to that whole "pressuring a fan into sex" thing, and Benton... didn't return the BBC's calls? I dunno.
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Oct 30, 2023 21:43
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Warthur posted:Tom and Lalla are on speaking terms these days, right? No, I don't think they are.
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Oct 30, 2023 21:49
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Warthur posted:Tom and Lalla are on speaking terms these days, right? Nope! quote:I guess the thinking behind the Third Doctor pairing is that the Brigadier, Third Doctor, Sarah Jane, and Liz Shaw are too dead to participate, Mike Yates is too cancelled due to that whole "pressuring a fan into sex" thing, and Benton... didn't return the BBC's calls? I dunno. IIRC, John Levene lives in the US these days, so it's probably more a question of whether the BBC would be willing to pay to fly him back over.
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Oct 30, 2023 22:17
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I love the photo of Frazer and Wendy looking down at the 13th Doctor's TARDIS set like they're going,"The gently caress were they thinking?" 
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Oct 30, 2023 22:28
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Open Source Idiom posted:No, I don't think they are. Never mind then. I really like the Sixth Doctor's new look! They should CGI that in to his original stories.
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Tom Baker and Lalla Ward record thier scenes together with a different actor, and they're edited together later. IIRC, Ward lives in Hong Kong and Baker tends to remote record now for the audios. If they're an in character thing, I wonder if they'll have some plot device to handwave away the Doctor's aging? Pete McTighe is pretty good at being creative with the Blu-Ray trailers he writes. I'm guessing a "oh no we've been pulled out of our timelines" thing.
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