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Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



there was some drama a couple of weeks ago when that picture of a sign from a rally that said "HATE TRANS PEOPLE? K*** YOURSELF!" was doing the rounds. a lot of discussion and some arguments about it being posted without content warnings and stuff. i found it informative as it gave me some new perspectives on things, like how anti-fascist action should be about building community with the vulnerable.

the most recent drama seems to be over the update to the cohost community guidelines which expanded definitions of sexual depictions of minors:

https://cohost.org/staff/post/1624196-community-guidelines
https://cohost.org/staff/post/1627613-update-on-incoming-c

apparently before it was just "human minors" which is weird but now the qualifier has been removed. seems like the right thing to do but apparently there is a broad and wide spectrum of opinions which i dont care about but you can read in the comments above.

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Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



a terrible snipe, but ya'll asked for this

nvrgrls posted:

I hope someone can snipe this thread with a summary of the drama

MononcQc
May 29, 2007

I was woefully unaware of it and then I saw the staff posts. it seems like a few days ago they clarified rules around drawn child pornography or underage ‘humans’ in sexual positions with everything else (non-human) requiring mandatory content warnings.

this created an uproar around folks who don’t want to see this poo poo even if isn’t depicting humans, so a few days later under the pressure they also banned furry depictions of underage sex (“cub” seemed to come back a lot in the comments but that’s frankly a part of the web I know jackshit about) and then it became about a bunch of comments both thanking them for the decision and another bunch of people mentioning that no actually this is how they process their trauma and they want to keep posting that stuff (but then can trigger a trauma response in other people)

i bailed out of the thread at that point and sort of went “well it’s cool I never got to see any of that go on because that’s just not what I follow I guess”

jony neuemonic
Nov 13, 2009

it does give me pause that there are apparently enough people upset at “don’t post anything even minor-adjacent” for it to be a big thing, but yeah I have been blissfully unaware of any of this because I don’t follow those people.

Pythagoras a trois
Feb 19, 2004

I have a lot of points to make and I will make them later.

MononcQc posted:

and then it became about a bunch of comments both thanking them for the decision and another bunch of people mentioning that no actually this is how they process their trauma

the image comes to mind of Freud watching from hell, fist pumping and doing lines off a demon dick

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

MononcQc posted:

I was woefully unaware of it and then I saw the staff posts. it seems like a few days ago they clarified rules around drawn child pornography or underage ‘humans’ in sexual positions with everything else (non-human) requiring mandatory content warnings.

this created an uproar around folks who don’t want to see this poo poo even if isn’t depicting humans, so a few days later under the pressure they also banned furry depictions of underage sex (“cub” seemed to come back a lot in the comments but that’s frankly a part of the web I know jackshit about) and then it became about a bunch of comments both thanking them for the decision and another bunch of people mentioning that no actually this is how they process their trauma and they want to keep posting that stuff (but then can trigger a trauma response in other people)

i bailed out of the thread at that point and sort of went “well it’s cool I never got to see any of that go on because that’s just not what I follow I guess”

lmao

Dans Macabre
Apr 24, 2004


Pile Of Garbage posted:

a terrible snipe, but ya'll asked for this

thank you

MononcQc
May 29, 2007

guess I’m gonna have to start backing up all my paper notes hosted on there: https://cohost.org/staff/post/1690393-h1-2023-financial-up

Archduke Frantz Fanon
Sep 7, 2004

MononcQc posted:

guess I’m gonna have to start backing up all my paper notes hosted on there: https://cohost.org/staff/post/1690393-h1-2023-financial-up

aww dang this would be sad

Dijkstracula
Mar 18, 2003

You can't spell 'vector field' without me, Professor!

MononcQc posted:

guess I’m gonna have to start backing up all my paper notes hosted on there: https://cohost.org/staff/post/1690393-h1-2023-financial-up

pretty wild that half their expenses are from their CDN

like when I worked there I knew that Fastly was among the more expensive of the edge offerings but in hindsight maybe continuing to take cloudflare's accidental free enterprise tier would have been a better move

HKR
Jan 13, 2006

there is no universe where duke nukem would not be a trans ally



who knew standing up for your principles would cost money?

Dans Macabre
Apr 24, 2004


rip to a real one

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
sigh. at least I’ve got my sdf page

HKR
Jan 13, 2006

there is no universe where duke nukem would not be a trans ally



fwiw while things look grim they still have funding, so it's not going anywhere soon. If you'd like the site to continue cohost premium is a thing, and so is their store.

Dans Macabre
Apr 24, 2004


nah I’m just gonna stick to my own site.

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
I pay for premium

armpit_enjoyer
Jan 25, 2023

my god. it's full of posts
So do I! I like their product and I want 'em to have a little walkin' around money.

FalseNegative
Jul 24, 2007

2>/dev/null
You can also pay for premium more than once! But no gift support yet.

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar
i just wish they would focus on actual useful features because it feels like nothing has improved and i'm left wondering what is actually happening

the fact that tumblr-style asks are going in before there's even any way to message a user normally feels bizarre, especially when the site still lacks any kind of built-in de-duplication. love to have my timeline be the same 5 posts being shared over and over again

Dijkstracula
Mar 18, 2003

You can't spell 'vector field' without me, Professor!

Zamujasa posted:

love to have my timeline be the same 5 posts being shared over and over again
honestly this is a big part of why I stopped checking it out - same stuff being rechosted or whatever and it's some 10 page tumblr shitpost that just isn't my jam

also nobody engaged with my effortposts :cry:

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
yeah i tried efforting a bit, zero response, and tl got clogged by those chain reposts. it got boring and very few of them were funny

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar
discovery being poo poo is also a huge problem and i don't see any particular outlook on it being fixed. if you don't already have an audience of some kind, likely imported from twitter, you're dead in the water.

tags are the only way to find poo poo from people you don't follow, and they intentionally hide tags on shared content. if someone shares a post onto your timeline it will only include tags from the sharing person, not the original post, so most of the time that ends up being nothing. you don't get to see what tags were used, so you have no clue what tags to use.

and of course tag capitalization is normalized to the first use of that tag. #FUnnY mEmES

MononcQc
May 29, 2007

I'm still gonna post there, but since Cohost was my backup for all my paper-posting from the ergonomics thread, I'll have to move all my posts' copies to a subsection of my blog and be on a hiatus in the meanwhile, just in case :(

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

the gbs thread provided me with a bluesky account too, guess i should double dip

https://bsky.app/profile/tankakern.bsky.social

quiggy
Aug 7, 2010

[in Russian] Oof.


oh yeah i claimed quiggy.bluesky or whatever the gently caress, but i haven't done literally anything with it yet

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes



Dijkstracula posted:

rechosted or whatever

they are called chortles tyvm

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
I’m going to keep posting on cohost too but I have sdf to fall back on

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



sdf owns

i also bought an omg.lol name but i doubt i'll renew it next year

Radia
Jul 14, 2021

And someday, together.. We'll shine.
ah man I was just looking this out and you already all killed it?

Dijkstracula
Mar 18, 2003

You can't spell 'vector field' without me, Professor!

oh poo poo, sdf has a MUD?? hell yeah

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar
okay what's sdf

Dijkstracula
Mar 18, 2003

You can't spell 'vector field' without me, Professor!

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4017601

e: I guess at no point in that thread did anyone actually post the link so http://sdf.org/

Roosevelt
Jul 18, 2009

I'm looking for the man who shot my paw.

sam dankman fried

Armitag3
Mar 15, 2020

Forget it Jake, it's cybertown.


Dijkstracula posted:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4017601

e: I guess at no point in that thread did anyone actually post the link so http://sdf.org/

maybe a good link for The Dir

Dijkstracula
Mar 18, 2003

You can't spell 'vector field' without me, Professor!

Armitag3 posted:

maybe a good link for The Dir
oh deffo :hmmyes:

armpit_enjoyer
Jan 25, 2023

my god. it's full of posts
I made a post about a cool thing and it got rechosted by one of the site's owners and now my notifications won't stop blowing up

But also everybody's being really nice so I guess I understand cohost now

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

is everything on bsky walled in now, or is there a way to share posts without the recipient having an account?

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



the "Asks" feature is now GA on cohost. you have to go into your profile settings to enable receiving them.

ive yet to be asked anything but that's prolly for the best

Dieting Hippo
Jan 5, 2006

THIS IS NOT A PROPER DIET FOR A HIPPO
waiting to lol when the site disappears in a cloud of smoke due to the "we have no money" thing

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MononcQc
May 29, 2007

new cohost financial update is in: https://cohost.org/staff/post/1999123-p-id-8948aafc-0abd

quote:

so! a few things:
  • we are no longer in dire straits
  • (almost) every single good number is up, every single bad number is down or stable
  • we had positive net income last month, so despite not having closed additional funding yet we still have more money in the bank than last time
...

in the last update, we talked about a new round of funding. this is still in progress; we will have more to report here once it's completed, and to be totally clear, the hold-up is on our end, not our funder’s. the ball is in our court. fortunately, the revenue situation has changed enough that a lot of the Immediate Urgency has reduced, letting us be more considered about how much we're raising. (again, our goal is to minimize debt.)

now that we have finished launching Asks, I am moving on to start on user tipping. as we've said before, we do not consider tipping to be a revenue source for the company (the default platform fee is 0%, and we do not expect most users to diverge from the default). the infrastructure for user tipping is also required for us to launch user subscriptions, which we do view as a revenue source.

they're apparently no longer on absolute fire, which I guess is good news?

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