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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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67 | 16.58% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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Ardennes posted:ATGMs are a big issue, it is just particularly the Javelin actually didn't perform as expected. The big issue for the Russians was tripod mounted Ukrainian-made ATGMs which had much heavier or tandem warheads. Idk how Javelins performed, but seems like we also ran out.
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Apr 19, 2024 10:25
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genericnick posted:Idk how Javelins performed, but seems like we also ran out. There was information coming out around them when they were being used, by the end, they seemed to be used mostly as a simple direct fire missile. Also, there technically are a couple around, you see them once in a while in store rooms, they have become pretty rare though and usually hoarded by political units or foreigners.
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Apr 19, 2024 10:28
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(Ukraine is turned into global child sexual trafficking capital overnight the instant america gets the imf in) Ha ha Russia bad
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Apr 19, 2024 10:29
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Homeless Friend posted:lmao seth put placeholder but never did anything for this one Google it. The guys official callsign was "fagot", like the atgm system. https://www.newsweek.com/russia-commander-liquidated-ukraine-drone-grenade-1876908 BrotherJayne posted:Maybe we could not? I get it conversation is" usa worst nation in world, that has commited all the warcrimes in the world. Rest are based. Only americans allowed". Sorry. haddedam has issued a correction as of 10:34 on Apr 19, 2024 |
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Apr 19, 2024 10:29
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haddedam posted:Google it. The guys official callsign was "fagot", like the atgm system.
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Apr 19, 2024 10:34
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Soapy_Bumslap posted:(Ukraine is turned into global child sexual trafficking capital overnight the instant america gets the imf in) A former Holyoke city councilor faced child porn charges. Now he’s apparently fighting for the Russian army.
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Apr 19, 2024 10:37
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we're about to teach this SOB why the victims of communism list is so long
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Apr 19, 2024 10:40
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To fight a pedophile, you have to send a pedophile
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Apr 19, 2024 10:41
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genericnick posted:Idk how Javelins performed, but seems like we also ran out. I thought they were sent thousands of the things?
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Apr 19, 2024 10:41
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Ardennes posted:ATGMs are a big issue, it is just particularly the Javelin actually didn't perform as expected. The big issue for the Russians was tripod mounted Ukrainian-made ATGMs which had much heavier or tandem warheads. it is quite funny that Health and Safety neutered the NLAW, but only goes so far that soldiers are still expected to get in the ajax but have to wear massive ear protection and still come out with TBIs
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Apr 19, 2024 10:45
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Extrajudicial GBS ban turned down... but 30 day approved & that's the bottom line cause fluffdaddy said so
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Apr 19, 2024 10:50
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fatelvis posted:I thought they were sent thousands of the things? And now they're gone
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Apr 19, 2024 10:56
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Homeless Friend posted:Extrajudicial GBS ban turned down... but 30 day approved & that's the bottom line cause fluffdaddy said so ftw
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Apr 19, 2024 10:56
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Uhm the Russians have lost 1000s upon 1000s of tanks to st. Javelin remember?
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Apr 19, 2024 10:57
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Homeless Friend posted:Extrajudicial GBS ban turned down... but 30 day approved & that's the bottom line cause fluffdaddy said so It was always a long shot I guess. Tyfys
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Apr 19, 2024 10:57
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BrotherJayne posted:Many such posts, etc. A little dog shed to shelter the EW equipments.
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Apr 19, 2024 11:17
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suck my woke dick posted:i have bad news about the English my man. also this really isn't anything special about the US, any country that conquered its way to the top would do roughly the same, it's just that the US happened to be the big winner in recent history the other gbs moron took a lot of attention but I wanted to recognize your contribution of the classic old sociopathic take of “if I didn’t kill all those people first someone else would have anyway” that pieces of poo poo love to trot out.
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Apr 19, 2024 11:49
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what if all the barns could do a Voltron megastructure. C'mon Russia.
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Apr 19, 2024 11:52
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haddedam posted:He seems to be reprimanded rather than promoted for his actions which is how you know it's not russia. if this isn’t the gbs freak who keeps getting banned for posting gore ill be amazed
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Apr 19, 2024 12:02
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Lin Manuel-Turtle posted:the other gbs moron took a lot of attention but I wanted to recognize your contribution of the classic old sociopathic take of “if I didn’t kill all those people first someone else would have anyway” that pieces of poo poo love to trot out. more like countries aren't morally pure people and most of them are terrible
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Apr 19, 2024 12:43
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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So, if congress passes the Ukraine funding, how does that translate into Russia no longer winning?
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Apr 19, 2024 12:57
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it won’t make a difference other than some Nazi warlords will have bigger bank accounts in the caymans
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Apr 19, 2024 12:58
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Egg Moron posted:So, if congress passes the Ukraine funding, how does that translate into Russia no longer winning? Most of the bill is for stuff like supporting existing US forces in the region, humanitarian aid, and loans, there is also a bunch of money to replenish existing US stockpiles. There is military aid in there as well but it perhaps isn't tremendous. I think part of it is just the US just doesn't have that much to send, and the aid presented in the bill isn't going to be covering stuff like fighter jets.
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Apr 19, 2024 13:01
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Is there any news of the F16? And also what happened to the 2000 French troops?
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Apr 19, 2024 13:08
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Homeless Friend posted:we're about to teach this SOB why the victims of communism list is so long your experiment produced an interesting result
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Apr 19, 2024 13:10
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Supposedly, there is also 13 billion of "security assistance" to Ukraine in the package, but it is unclear how much of that is just the US paying itself back for support and training and how much of that is going to actual weapons for the Ukrainians. There is also another 1.6 billion of direct aid to the Ukrainian military.
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Apr 19, 2024 13:12
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Ardennes posted:Most of the bill is for stuff like supporting existing US forces in the region, humanitarian aid, and loans, there is also a bunch of money to replenish existing US stockpiles. There is military aid in there as well but it perhaps isn't tremendous. Of the ~$61 billion in the Ukraine aid bill: ~14 billion for Ukraine to buy weapons for itself ~14 billion to fund purchases of new US weapons for Ukraine ~8 billion for the Ukrainian government ~1.6 billion for the Ukrainian military finances ~13 billion for the US to backfill stockpiles (which in turn likely frees up 4 billion in willingness to use the rest of the PDA) ~7 billion to fund US O&M costs for activities being taken in support of Ukraine, such as training, logistical support, intel support. You can read the bill here: https://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20240415/APRIL2024_UKRAINE_xml.pdf
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Apr 19, 2024 13:27
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Jel Shaker posted:it is quite funny that Health and Safety neutered the NLAW, but only goes so far that soldiers are still expected to get in the ajax but have to wear massive ear protection and still come out with TBIs How did they make a vehicle so bad that everyone who rides in it gets tbi
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Apr 19, 2024 13:27
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OctaMurk posted:How did they make a vehicle so bad that everyone who rides in it gets tbi take an existing vehicle, slap poo poo on it to meet the requirements bullet points, forget to update the suspension now that it weighs twice as much
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Apr 19, 2024 13:36
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BrotherJayne posted:I wonder how long until we see decoy turtle tanks. Land carriers. Homeland: Deserts of Kharkov
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Apr 19, 2024 13:39
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There is 27 billion for "Operation and Maintenance Defense-wide" with 13 billion under the Ukrainian security assistance initative, but the terms of direct procurement for Ukraine is rather vague. In addition, that number includes not just procurement but again training and support. Looking though it, it seems like it gives the DoD to use the funding at will to support operations, with procurement per branch marked out. The assumption is this would eventually be used to help the Ukrainians, but it doesn't seem the bill outlines that directly. Also the Ukrainian security assistance initiatives is a training and support program with a portion of it used to supply weapon purchases. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 13:54 on Apr 19, 2024 |
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Apr 19, 2024 13:39
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Zodium posted:simpsons "russia flipping the name sign on the desk to reveal the ussr flag" but it's the united states revealing the union jack
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Apr 19, 2024 13:46
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Ardennes posted:There is 27 billion for "Operation and Maintenance Defense-wide" with 13 billion for Ukrainian security assistance, but the terms of direct procurement for Ukraine is rather vague. That's why I broke it down for you to provide more clarity. Or you can read the whole bill, but it's pretty dry. USAI falls under O&M for some budgetary reason. It does not fall under "procurement" because "procurement" means procuring items for the US to possess. The US govt paying companies to build things for Ukraine is an operation. The US government buying equipment for itself is procurement. For further budget wonk poo poo, a lot of the procurement is FOR the DOD, but has the leash that what is procured must remain available in stocks for donation to Ukraine, as needed/approved in the future, for a set amount of time. In the bill, they put a subheading to specify that O&M includes transfer of funds to make it easier for the reader to understand.
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Apr 19, 2024 13:48
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Homeless Friend posted:we're about to teach this SOB why the victims of communism list is so long hell yeah
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Apr 19, 2024 13:55
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Homeless Friend posted:we're about to teach this SOB why the victims of communism list is so long
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Apr 19, 2024 13:57
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mlmp08 posted:That's why I broke it down for you to provide more clarity. Or you can read the whole bill, but it's pretty dry. The issue is for example the USAI wasn't simply for weapon purchases but also training and support as well. In addition, in the text, they specify this also includes: "imbursement for defense services of the Department of Defense and military education and training, provided to the government of Ukraine or identified and notified to Congress for provision to the government of Ukraine or to foreign countries that have provided support to Ukraine at the request of the United States." This allies to the total funding as well as specifically USAI funding.
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Apr 19, 2024 13:59
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I am having an exchange with a normie in my personal life. Can someone who has a better grasp of the scale of these things tell me some guidelines for the following two questions? Are these ratios closer to 2:1 or 20:1? - how much aid Ukraine got for free vs how much came via loans - the "real value" of the aid they get vs the nominal value (since, like in the 61 billion mentioned above, "aid" will often come in the form of the US obtaining the stuff, handing it over, then promising this is totally 10 billion worth of stuff bro) Edit: I see that some recent posts directly contradict the model I have suggested. Evidently I'm confused and might benefit even more from some answer. Obviously I know no one can give me a fixed number.
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Apr 19, 2024 14:13
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how is any of that relevant. they don’t have an army
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Apr 19, 2024 14:14
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I am trying to help them understand what Ukraine got back for the small price of most functional bits of their country. Our media tells us how we're helping the Ukrainians out of the goodness of our hearts.
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Apr 19, 2024 14:16
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The CFR report is so ideological at this point. They did an accounting of the war in february that amounts to fantasy. They list all these appropriations of arms without counts or delivery involved. It's a sliver of a sliver of the overal package, only a portion got to Ukraine, all of it is nearly spent, and whats on the way in no way meets their needs. Yet they conclude we're doing the best, bang up job ever in supporting a war effort and a teensy bit more will slay Ruussia. Mearshimer had a debate with Dobriansky last week that was just abysmal. Every talking point she made was this wishful thinking. She keeps countering every material weakness on the ground with "but we could send more and close that gap" ignoring the material realities abound. There is no time, there is no productive capactiy, wishing and hoping time is long gone. If they need 5 million 155mm shells a year to fight Russia, either we deliver 5 million shells now or face the music. There's no tomorrow, but our official policy planning has no urgency. They are looking at it as a long term stalemate still. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdtCyiKHtqE
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