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What is the most powerful flying bug?
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🦋 15 3.71%
🦇 115 28.47%
🪰 12 2.97%
🐦 67 16.58%
dragonfly 94 23.27%
🦟 14 3.47%
🐝 87 21.53%
Total: 404 votes
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bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

euphronius posted:

Post the whole thing if you are going to post them . come on

The op:

quote:

I thought it was a bad idea to seize Russian reserves before the US congress had voted on the Ukraine package. It gave too easy a way to Congress to vote no and pass the buck. Now that they have voted, it is hard to think of good reasons not to seize. Yes, it will create a precedent: Countries will know that if they go to war against a country or a friend of a country where they have reserves, they will likely lose them. So what?

The reply:

quote:

So what? I spent my early career globalising US Treasuries as liquid central bank reserves, bank reserves, margin, and collateral assets.
I single-handedly got USTs into Clearstream, Luxembourg. Chairman from Citi said it was 'impossible' and took me to lunch when it got the fastest SEC approval of a CA-1 in history.
I co-invented Triparty Repo (now $18 trillion daily average) and Global Optimised Derivatives Margin.
I designed operations of CLS Bank which now settles $7.5 trillion a day average in FX settlements (most against USD).
All of that is devalued by US lawless thuggery.

So what? I'm going to spend my later career building the infrastructure and methods of Multicurrency Mercantilism because G7 have finally screwed the pooch on sovereign debt as official reserves. Better is possible and I want to build it.

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euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Countries will know that if they go to war against a country or a friend of a country where they have reserves, they will likely lose them. So what?

lol at the bolded part

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

euphronius posted:

I think they are trying to force China into picking sides becuase they think the USA can win a war against China

They also want to do it quickly, while they still have a (perceived) military edge (which they increasingly see as technological edge anyway) because all of their forecasts of Chinese shipbuilding, aircraft production etc etc are unbelievably bad, so if they can't contain China with a victorious war now, they'll never get that chance again.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

the high priests of capitalism go through a rigorous, decades long period of education, training, and examination by their peers and institutions just to advocate for the things that will destroy them and their system utterly

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Zudgemud posted:

One of the other Ukraine threads it was claimed that this guy proudly described the KGB op as "Chekist", is there a direct quote for that in Russian?
https://ria.ru/20240425/kgb-1942254956.html

quote:

"Комитетом госбезопасности при взаимодействии с коллегами из других силовых структур в последнее время проведен ряд острых, чекистских мероприятий, который позволил предотвратить нанесение ударов боевыми дронами с территории Литвы по объектам в Минске и в его пригородах", — сказал руководитель комитета.

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

let her cook

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

They also want to do it quickly, while they still have a (perceived) military edge (which they increasingly see as technological edge anyway) because all of their forecasts of Chinese shipbuilding, aircraft production etc etc are unbelievably bad, so if they can't contain China with a victorious war now, they'll never get that chance again.

drat russia isn't losing fast enough and it is delaying the war I really want with China!

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

The “Indo-Pacific” thing was because in the early 2010’s they calculated that India’s military plus their own could maintain the favourable military balance, but from what Tankbuster said, the Indians are not so stupid as to get subordinated to a project they get no benefit from whatsoever.

Peeling India off from Russian was supposed to be done by 2010 but the US kept loving them on military deals and openly discussing how Indian dependance on US arms would give the US soft power over Indian foreign policy. Sometimes I wonder if they don’t realize other countries can read English.

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

bedpan posted:

the high priests of capitalism go through a rigorous, decades long period of education, training, and examination by their peers and institutions just to advocate for the things that will destroy them and their system utterly

Toynbee wrote three 700 page volumes on this, one of which tragically keeps using Austria-Hungary as a case study.

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

They also want to do it quickly, while they still have a (perceived) military edge (which they increasingly see as technological edge anyway) because all of their forecasts of Chinese shipbuilding, aircraft production etc etc are unbelievably bad, so if they can't contain China with a victorious war now, they'll never get that chance again.

Totally not a May 1914 scenario with dumber failkids running everything

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

The “Indo-Pacific” thing was because in the early 2010’s they calculated that India’s military plus their own could maintain the favourable military balance, but from what Tankbuster said, the Indians are not so stupid as to get subordinated to a project they get no benefit from whatsoever.

Peeling India off from Russian was supposed to be done by 2010 but the US kept loving them on military deals and openly discussing how Indian dependance on US arms would give the US soft power over Indian foreign policy. Sometimes I wonder if they don’t realize other countries can read English.

The China analysts can't read Chinese, so why would we expect them to read English

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

The “Indo-Pacific” thing was because in the early 2010’s they calculated that India’s military plus their own could maintain the favourable military balance, but from what Tankbuster said, the Indians are not so stupid as to get subordinated to a project they get no benefit from whatsoever.

Peeling India off from Russian was supposed to be done by 2010 but the US kept loving them on military deals and openly discussing how Indian dependance on US arms would give the US soft power over Indian foreign policy. Sometimes I wonder if they don’t realize other countries can read English.

according to the law of profit, no matter how much two parties may benefit by an exchange one party is always defrauded

it ended like that and will continue to end like that because the basic unit of liberal, international diplomacy is to colonize and defraud the people across the table. this feels ordinary and normal now after the passage of decades and with the hegemony of western, liberal though so the disconnect of on the one hand claiming to be India's new friend while on the other hand bragging about how India will be kept into a pattern of underdevelopment that takes them down a road they cannot easily go back is converted from a disconnect to a policy that is based on "real world evidence" or some other formulation like that

it is the rules that you be poor and exploited and I be rich and prosperous

bedpan has issued a correction as of 16:09 on Apr 25, 2024

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

bedpan posted:

according to the law of profit, no matter how much two parties may benefit by an exchange one party is always defrauded

it ended like that and will continue to end like that because the basic unit of liberal, international diplomacy is to colonize and defraud the people across the table. this feels ordinary and normal now after the passage of decades and with the hegemony of western, liberal though so the disconnect of on the one hand claiming to be India's new friend while on the other hand bragging about how India will be kept into a pattern of underdevelopment that takes them down a road they cannot easily go back is converted from a disconnect to a policy that is based on "real world evidence" or some other formulation like that

Well put, and I imagine the dream of the end of history was that they could telegraph their intentions years or decades out, like Iraq (2), Syria and Libya, and nobody could do anything anyway. You almost get the sense they enjoyed toying with Libya for as long as they did, dangling reproachment, or invasion, back and forth.

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

KomradeX posted:

The China analysts can't read Chinese, so why would we expect them to read English

itd be a funny joke if it weren't true

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

The Anglo-Japanese Alliance was strained and ultimately fell apart by the British getting huffy that the Japanese had read what they wrote about them in newspapers, including “well obviously we won’t really support them against American interests”, “yes we promised to support them in China but if the Chinese give us more concessions we’ll just cut off the Japanese supply of oil and rubber and that will be that.”

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

The Anglo-Japanese Alliance was strained and ultimately fell apart by the British getting huffy that the Japanese had read what they wrote about them in newspapers, including “well obviously we won’t really support them against American interests”, “yes we promised to support them in China but if the Chinese give us more concessions we’ll just cut off the Japanese supply of oil and rubber and that will be that.”

all they had to do was dial back just a tiny, tiny bit the racism and/or be a bit more discrete and 40 years later they wouldn't have had to sell their empire for obsolete destroyers or be forced to buy imports they couldn't afford and didn't need as first condition of the negotiations

Soapy_Bumslap
Jun 19, 2013

We're gonna need a bigger chode
Grimey Drawer
US diplomacy is like a 5 year old trying to trick their parents into sitting on a whoopie cushion

Officer Sandvich
Feb 14, 2010
https://www.ft.com/content/06a48bab-2eb6-4cc4-9d9f-e72a22ba5d7e

Ukraine to increase long-range strikes in Russia, says UK defence chief

quote:

Ukraine is set to increase long-range attacks inside Russia as an influx of western military aid aims to help Kyiv shape the war “in much stronger ways”, the head of the UK military has said.

Admiral Sir Tony Radakin acknowledged the downbeat mood surrounding Ukraine’s defence in an interview with the Financial Times, admitting the country was facing a “difficult” fight to repel advancing Russian forces.

But Britain’s chief of defence, a key figure in the west’s military support for Kyiv, stressed that such a gloomy “snapshot” of the war failed to recognise longer trends more in Kyiv’s favour.

He said these included the latest packages of military aid from US and Europe, Ukraine’s increasingly successful long-range strikes, and Moscow’s “total failure” to choke off Kyiv’s vital grain exports via the Black Sea.

“The danger with any snapshot is that it [ignores] where we are now with where we will be in next couple of years,” Radakin told the FT, adding people should stop “feting Russia” and believing it “somehow has got major advantages”.

[....]

But, after a drawn out debate, US President Joe Biden still directed his White House team to ensure the longer-range system was “for use inside Ukrainian sovereign territory”.

Radakin, by contrast, expressed no apparent qualms over Ukrainian attacks and sabotage raids inside Russia.

“As Ukraine gains more capabilities for the long-range fight . . . its ability to continue deep operations will [increasingly] become a feature” of the war, Radakin said, adding: “they definitely have an effect”.

The UK government has pledged this week to increase defence spending from about 2.3 per cent to 2.5 per cent of national income. In addition, it has raised military aid to Kyiv to £3bn a year and, crucially, signed long-term contracts with defence industry suppliers.

“You can moan about why this [the long-term contracts] did not happen earlier, but some things take time,” he said. In a side swipe at environmental, social and governance investment guidelines, he added: “the notion that investing in the UK defence industry is unethical, is offensive”.

Radakin said these long-term supply contracts had allowed the UK’s defence ministry to dig deep into its own stockpiles and hand over more capabilities to Kyiv — including more than 1,600 strike and air defence missiles, as well as another tranche of long-range Storm Shadow cruise missiles.

After months of uncertainty over the west’s strategy in Ukraine, Radakin spoke with optimism about a situation where all Nato countries are “talking about spending more money”.

But even Ukraine has cast the latest round of support as largely helping to stabilise a deteriorating position. “I recognise that this is all less comfortable if you are in Kyiv,”
Radakin conceded. “You also have to acknowledge that Russia has been able to conduct more effective long-range strikes than last year.”

Radakin also pushed back at criticism that the west had no overarching “glorious plan” as to how to help Kyiv achieve victory and had instead only given it enough military aid to forestall defeat.

“Don’t expect anyone to say publicly ‘this is the plan’ and A, B and C are now going to happen,” Radakin said. Some elements of Ukraine’s military approach “will be hidden . . . some will be dictated by a tactical or operational advantage, and some also depends on more foundational aspects”, he said.

Some of these factors “mature much more strongly next year than this year”
, Radakin said. But they “will enable Ukraine to shape [the fighting] in much stronger ways than it has before”.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

say, for example, that the elite in the United Kingdom of the 19th and early 20th centuries decided that they wouldn't openly say the vilest of racial slurs when talking with the english-speaking aristocrats of ancient lineage and enormous wealth from the upper echelons of Indian or Japanese society who were already sending their children and heirs to english public schools to become good, english public school boys and just wanted to be treated civilly when getting a drink at the club or buying first class train tickets

they'd still have the empire

bedpan has issued a correction as of 17:08 on Apr 25, 2024

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Delta-Wye posted:

itd be a funny joke if it weren't true

Got to disagree I think its hilarious

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

The Anglo-Japanese Alliance was strained and ultimately fell apart by the British getting huffy that the Japanese had read what they wrote about them in newspapers, including “well obviously we won’t really support them against American interests”, “yes we promised to support them in China but if the Chinese give us more concessions we’ll just cut off the Japanese supply of oil and rubber and that will be that.”

wait what?

AmyL
Aug 8, 2013


Black Thursday was a disaster, plain and simple.
We lost too many good people, too many planes.
We can't let that kind of tragedy happen again.

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

It always kills me how open American officials were about this, and France and Germany still let them expand NATO!

Germany was always under the US's thumb but France is a surprise. Why do they let themselves get clipped by America even when they told them what was going to happen?

Isizzlehorn
Feb 25, 2010

:lesnick::lesnick::lesnick::lesnick::lesnick::lesnick:

bedpan posted:

say, for example, that the elite in the United Kingdom of the 19th and early 20th centuries decided that they wouldn't openly say the vilest of racial slurs when talking with the english-speaking aristocrats of ancient lineage and enormous wealth from the upper echelons of Indian or Japanese society who were already sending their children and heirs to english public schools to become good, english public school boys and just wanted to be treated civilly when getting a drink at the club or buying first class train tickets

they'd still have the empire

wouldn't be very British without those slurs tho

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Isizzlehorn posted:

wouldn't be very British without those slurs tho

:hmmyes:

Bar Crow
Oct 10, 2012

bedpan posted:

all they had to do was dial back just a tiny, tiny bit the racism and/or be a bit more discrete and 40 years later they wouldn't have had to sell their empire for obsolete destroyers or be forced to buy imports they couldn't afford and didn't need as first condition of the negotiations

The racism is the point. They can’t function as a society without a group punching bag.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/Megatron_ron/status/1783439646426337580?t=-NEYfP5L3fkG7aKJG54imA&s=19

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

:pray:

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Every single loving time hat idiot Zelenskyy does a long range strike inside Russia, Ukrainian civilians eat poo poo so loving hard

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010




Its not russia's fault my dude

Sancho Banana
Aug 4, 2023

Not to be confused with meat.

:yotj:

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Still remember how Xi hoped that Europe would turn into a counter weight for the US before 2019 and then they all collectively commit suicide while acting indignant that no one is taking them seriously.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

there has been a consistent thread lately of non western leaders overestimating the humanity and rationality of the West

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

bedpan posted:

say, for example, that the elite in the United Kingdom of the 19th and early 20th centuries decided that they wouldn't openly say the vilest of racial slurs when talking with the english-speaking aristocrats of ancient lineage and enormous wealth from the upper echelons of Indian or Japanese society who were already sending their children and heirs to english public schools to become good, english public school boys and just wanted to be treated civilly when getting a drink at the club or buying first class train tickets

they'd still have the empire

100%

Tankbuster posted:

wait what?

Alliance In Decline: A study in Anglo-Japanese relations, 1908-23 is a series of episodes where every British diplomat says the sort of thing Prince Phillip did when he was a little too drunk at an embassy ball south the the equator, or they go to Japan on a diplomatic business, run into an old boy from public school who works for a newspaper, and mention that they don't quite have Japan where they want them, but the Japanese steel industry can't be allowed to further undercut Manchester.

For instance, in the collected Survey of British Commonwealth Affairs: External Policy 1931-39, an analyst wrote this assessment:

"Since the close of the century two things diminished British security. The first was the relative decline in the power of the Royal Navy itself. In the face of the Japanese and German naval construction, and the parallel and astonishing growth of American naval strength, the two-Power standard could no longer be maintained. Of that the Japanese Alliance of 1902 was the first implicit admission. Britain unaided could no longer patrol the Seven Seas. Yet this relative decline, whose consequences were mitigated for some twenty years by the Anglo-Japanese Alliance, was not in itself disastrous. Britain was replaced as the greatest naval Power, not by a European Power traditionally envious of her vast overseas possessions, but by the United States of America who cast, it is true, no approving eyes upon colonialism but with whom, none the less, ‘war was unthinkable’. Here indeed was a striking vindication of Bismarck’s insight in discerning so early that the most important fact in the modern world was that the language of the United States was English. Had it been possible in 1921 to reconcile America to the renewal of the Anglo-Japanese Alliance, the security of the Commonwealth from attack by sea would have remained virtually unimpaired. But despite the bluntly expressed anxieties of the Australian Prime Minister Mr. W. M. Hughes, lest a failure to renew the Alliance would leave the Pacific vulnerable to Japanese aggression at a time of tension or war in Europe, Canadian opposition to renewal decided the Commonwealth in favour of the American point of view. There is no doubt, whatever the merits of the argument, that as a result the security of the Commonwealth, particularly in the Pacific, was sensibly diminished after 1921."

Not that Australia did anyone any favours. Remember that they, and Japan, were to jointly administer the former East Asian territories of the German Empire:

"Australia’s first ordinance for the territory for which she was made responsible barred the door to Asiatic immigration by extending to Asiatics the application of the Commonwealth Immigration Act. This action evoked a protest from Japan, who maintained that the principle of the ‘open door’ should be applied in all fairness to ‘C’ class mandates. Only after protracted and acrimonious debate did the Japanese government, prompted by ‘a spirit of conciliation and co-operation, and their reluctance to see the question unsettled any longer . . .’, concede the issue, carefully recording that their assent was not to be considered ‘as an acquiescence on the part of His Imperial Japanese Majesty’s government in the submission of Japanese subjects to a discriminatory and disadvantageous treatment in the mandated territories’; nor as discarding their claim that ‘the rights and interests enjoyed by Japanese subjects in these territories in the past should be fully respected’."

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
All but a few houses in Ocheretyne are under Russian control. Russian troops have marched into Soloviove and raised the flag.

I believe it is correct to say that Ukriane's second defensive line west of Avdiivka has been broken.

I think there are three scenarios for future Russian advances.

1. A push right up the highway between Avdiivka and Kostiantynivka. This would put a great deal of pressure on the AFU units attempting to hold Chasiv Yar.

2. A continued northwest push aimed at cutting the highway between Kostiantynivka and Pokrovsk.

3. A westward push toward Pokrovsk. The transportation and supply hub for AFU forces on the Donbass front.

FirstnameLastname
Jul 10, 2022


got me 50 ounces out a bird in this bitch
lol picturing him coming out of an operating oom to say this for some reason

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

humiliation for russia as they haven't taken the literal worthless sinkhole yet

Starsfan
Sep 29, 2007

This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely

OhFunny posted:

All but a few houses in Ocheretyne are under Russian control. Russian troops have marched into Soloviove and raised the flag.

I believe it is correct to say that Ukriane's second defensive line west of Avdiivka has been broken.

I think there are three scenarios for future Russian advances.

1. A push right up the highway between Avdiivka and Kostiantynivka. This would put a great deal of pressure on the AFU units attempting to hold Chasiv Yar.

2. A continued northwest push aimed at cutting the highway between Kostiantynivka and Pokrovsk.

3. A westward push toward Pokrovsk. The transportation and supply hub for AFU forces on the Donbass front.

it seems like some initial attacks to the west continuing along the highway 511 / railway line towards Pokrovsk have already occurred, as the AFU reported yesterday that they had repelled a Russian advance "in the vicinity" of the town of Prohres, which was somewhat confusing because that town is a good 4km up the road from where Russian forces are currently agreed to be located... may just be that the Ukrainians meant that the Russians were attacking in that direction. It's not clear if that's a signal however that the Russians are planning to continue their offensive along that line, or if it was just an ambitious local commander trying to exploit the surprisingly weak Ukrainian defenses around Ocheretyne.

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Genuine question: have they been unable to dislodge it, or are they intentionally leaving it open because they can just blow up all the Ukrainian troops who keep going there?

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