AmyL posted:

Germany was always under the US's thumb but France is a surprise. Why do they let themselves get clipped by America even when they told them what was going to happen?

Gripweed posted:

Genuine question: have they been unable to dislodge it, or are they intentionally leaving it open because they can just blow up all the Ukrainian troops who keep going there?

tristeham posted:

it's really not surprising if you've paid attention. the anti-atlanticist position has always been for show

Gripweed posted:

Genuine question: have they been unable to dislodge it, or are they intentionally leaving it open because they can just blow up all the Ukrainian troops who keep going there?

Nonsense posted:

Every single loving time hat idiot Zelenskyy does a long range strike inside Russia, Ukrainian civilians eat poo poo so loving hard

Starsfan posted:

I think what happened was that Ukraine left Krynky during the winter when all the inlets they were using to supply the poor bastards they stranded on the left bank of the river froze up. Now they have decided to move back in for unknown reasons.

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

100%

Alliance In Decline: A study in Anglo-Japanese relations, 1908-23 is a series of episodes where every British diplomat says the sort of thing Prince Phillip did when he was a little too drunk at an embassy ball south the the equator, or they go to Japan on a diplomatic business, run into an old boy from public school who works for a newspaper, and mention that they don't quite have Japan where they want them, but the Japanese steel industry can't be allowed to further undercut Manchester.

For instance, in the collected Survey of British Commonwealth Affairs: External Policy 1931-39, an analyst wrote this assessment:

"Since the close of the century two things diminished British security. The first was the relative decline in the power of the Royal Navy itself. In the face of the Japanese and German naval construction, and the parallel and astonishing growth of American naval strength, the two-Power standard could no longer be maintained. Of that the Japanese Alliance of 1902 was the first implicit admission. Britain unaided could no longer patrol the Seven Seas. Yet this relative decline, whose consequences were mitigated for some twenty years by the Anglo-Japanese Alliance, was not in itself disastrous. Britain was replaced as the greatest naval Power, not by a European Power traditionally envious of her vast overseas possessions, but by the United States of America who cast, it is true, no approving eyes upon colonialism but with whom, none the less, ‘war was unthinkable’. Here indeed was a striking vindication of Bismarck’s insight in discerning so early that the most important fact in the modern world was that the language of the United States was English. Had it been possible in 1921 to reconcile America to the renewal of the Anglo-Japanese Alliance, the security of the Commonwealth from attack by sea would have remained virtually unimpaired. But despite the bluntly expressed anxieties of the Australian Prime Minister Mr. W. M. Hughes, lest a failure to renew the Alliance would leave the Pacific vulnerable to Japanese aggression at a time of tension or war in Europe, Canadian opposition to renewal decided the Commonwealth in favour of the American point of view. There is no doubt, whatever the merits of the argument, that as a result the security of the Commonwealth, particularly in the Pacific, was sensibly diminished after 1921."

Not that Australia did anyone any favours. Remember that they, and Japan, were to jointly administer the former East Asian territories of the German Empire:

"Australia’s first ordinance for the territory for which she was made responsible barred the door to Asiatic immigration by extending to Asiatics the application of the Commonwealth Immigration Act. This action evoked a protest from Japan, who maintained that the principle of the ‘open door’ should be applied in all fairness to ‘C’ class mandates. Only after protracted and acrimonious debate did the Japanese government, prompted by ‘a spirit of conciliation and co-operation, and their reluctance to see the question unsettled any longer . . .’, concede the issue, carefully recording that their assent was not to be considered ‘as an acquiescence on the part of His Imperial Japanese Majesty’s government in the submission of Japanese subjects to a discriminatory and disadvantageous treatment in the mandated territories’; nor as discarding their claim that ‘the rights and interests enjoyed by Japanese subjects in these territories in the past should be fully respected’."

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

but what has New Europe benefitted Germany and France? They already had Czechs filling low wage jobs.

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

but what has New Europe benefitted Germany and France? They already had Czechs filling low wage jobs.

Officer Sandvich posted:

https://twitter.com/Archer83Able/status/1783550234842308836

mawarannahr posted:

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

e: paradoxically, "unconditional surrender" has also be absorbed in axiomatic, mythologized, moral, terms. The book How Wars End is probably worth a read for everyone ITT, because the issues Ukraine is having usually would lead to negotiation, obviously. At the same time, were roles reversed, we believe the only way to end a war is total victory.

Some Guy TT posted:

its even worse than that imo the fact that the japanese were unwilling to agree to an unconditional surrender worked to successfully reduce the entire idea of even trying to negotiate a surrender into an inscrutable orientalism to the point that straight up nuking them became an ethically defensible trolley problem kind of dilemma

the newness of the idea of unconditional surrender and the fact that the japanese were working with same diplomacy playbook the rest of the industrialized world had been using without question or critique for the last century at that point is all just completely effaced in popular thought for the sake of the incredibly toxic idea that war crimes can be justified by racism

dead gay comedy forums posted:

Neoliberalism produced a very peculiar condition of "morality of conflict" that makes actual strategy in the great sense of the word impossible. As in: establishing clear terms of political-economic outcomes, what is required to do so, alternatives to consider etc. But also very importantly, terms of defeat. The concept of strategic loss seem to have vanished in the minds of neoliberal elites (thankfully so).

imo, this is inseparable from the American moral attitude, which craves and seeks the mythologized high of WW2. Everything has become a struggle for civilization itself. The American state seem to never have actually realized, as a whole, that they became imperial. There's this constant rhetoric of the plucky republic against the crown that got amped up back during the tail-end of the 20th century and definitely this one, but it is clearly ridiculous to anyone who knows a bit of History.

Then a Palestine uprising happens. Civilizational struggle, democracy, etc. But one side has an air force and the other doesn't. So doing an Operation Linebacker in 2024 seems a pretty good idea, until it succeeds only in breaking the entire strategic arrangement of the region and making the international order show its own rear end in uselessness, showing to everyone that can see its farcical nature for what it is. Heroic resistance against all odds inspire defiance elsewhere, like the brave Yemeni challenging control of the Red Sea and causes a hell of a scramble. And things keep escalating and people keep resisting and the plucky republic simply is having continuous blue-screens and tries to keep doing the same thing.

By historical measures, Israel and the United States have been already defeated, the question is how much worse they want to make this be. Answering this problem seems to be a critical difficulty for the neoliberal condition, as it requires the admission of a lot of things - especially a reckoning with material-historical things - and the risk of ideological collapse.

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

but what has New Europe benefitted Germany and France? They already had Czechs filling low wage jobs.

genericnick posted:

What's a Germany and France?

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

lobster shirt posted:

you should watch legend of the galactic heroes

mila kunis posted:

1000% this is the most FF anime ever made

Officer Sandvich posted:

https://asdfastwitter.com/Euan_MacDonald/status/1783399451970715821

ThatBasqueGuy posted:

logh rules

ThatBasqueGuy posted:

logh rules

quote:

The U.S. is putting the finishing touches on one of its largest Ukraine military aid packages to date, preparing to ink contracts for as much as $6 billion worth of weapons and equipment for Kyiv’s forces, according to two U.S. officials...The equipment likely won’t arrive in Ukraine for several years, as the money is being allocated under the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative

Tom Guycot posted:

I love all the adorable new tanks being born.

VoicesCanBe posted:

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1783604221054505024

Lmao what the gently caress, several years?

Soapy_Bumslap posted:

US diplomacy is like a 5 year old trying to trick their parents into sitting on a whoopie cushion

VoicesCanBe posted:

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1783604221054505024

Lmao what the gently caress, several years?

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/Megatron_ron/status/1783439646426337580?t=-NEYfP5L3fkG7aKJG54imA&s=19

mila kunis posted:

1000% this is the most FF anime ever made

Bar Crow posted:

An explosion rips off my shed revealing a second shed underneath. The entire frontline groans at my bullshit.

Lostconfused posted:

An anime about some blonde piece of poo poo killing monarchy to build a liberal democracy on top of it?

I'm not sure you understand what FF is about.

Bar Crow posted:

An explosion rips off my shed revealing a second shed underneath. The entire frontline groans at my bullshit.