Regarde Aduck posted:

I love their accent

It gets ruined once they start talking politics but its ftw until that point

Cerebral Bore posted:

did poland actually buy 250 abrams tanks or did they buy a pinky swear promise that they will get 250 abrams tanks at some point in the future, just trust me bro

Ardennes posted:

More recently there were round ups in Kiev city and Lvov, you can tell they are getting down there as well. I really wouldn't be surprised if they drop age to 18 and also including some women by this summer.

It can't be helping morale, since the political units, Lvov, and Kiev were all suppose not to be "touched." The populations of Kiev and Lvov don't give a gently caress, at a certain point where are all the guerilla fighters suppose to come from?

Zeppelin Insanity posted:

VoicesCanBe posted:

Oh they care a lot, especially in Lvov where they are diehard supporters for continued war.

They just want other people to fight it, not them.

Ardennes posted:

I mean, if they wanted to fight they could, hell they are having their rights stripped away, and they still aren't showing up. There is a big difference between some drinking songs or whatever and actually going out there.

The response from abroad has been extremely negative on top of that, and it seems like it is just going to have the result of forcing Ukrainians out of Poland and the Baltic states (which, I guess was the idea).

sum posted:

Russian Telegram sources are claiming that a battalion-sized group of Ukrainian soldiers (~hundreds of troops) was encircled west of Berdychi, about 5 km south of Ocheretyne. Unless I'm forgetting something, this might be the largest Ukrainian maneuver unit to surrender in the open field.
https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1784153523296289080

Ardennes posted:

Admittedly, that battalion probably doesn't have hundreds of dudes left it in, but it is significant the commander is giving up. Pretty much everything across the Donbass front is a mess, and units are either getting overrun or encircled. If the Ukrainians don't build a defensive line to the north, Niu York and everything south of Chavis Yar is going to go down as well.

OhFunny posted:

The 115th is the brigade that fled from Ocheretyne.

lobster shirt posted:

i dated a russian woman who couldn't roll her rs and she would joke that i spoke russian better than her because of that

Ardennes posted:

Niu York

sum posted:

Russian Telegram sources are claiming that a battalion-sized group of Ukrainian soldiers (~hundreds of troops) was encircled west of Berdychi, about 5 km south of Ocheretyne. Unless I'm forgetting something, this might be the largest Ukrainian maneuver unit to surrender in the open field.

OhFunny posted:

The 115th is the brigade that fled from Ocheretyne.

Nix Panicus posted:

Are they political or regular?

OhFunny posted:

Appear to be regular. Raised shortly after the war began.

Militaryland says placing solo blame on the 115th is unfair. That they were assigned to hold the right flank without tanks or artillery. That Ukrainian command had assigned the 59th Territorial Defense Battalion to hold the town with the 425th Assault Battalion Skala guarding the left flank.

If that's true, then it's command failure for stretching that defense so thin at such an important point. Then again, we have no idea what the manpower and material situation is for the Ukrainian. That might have been all they could send.

Nix Panicus posted:

I accept that Ukraine has a New York, but *why* do they have a New York? Did the Dutch plant a flag? Cultural exchange? Someone just decided they liked how it sounded?

OhFunny posted:

Appear to be regular. Raised shortly after the war began.

Militaryland says placing solo blame on the 115th is unfair. That they were assigned to hold the right flank without tanks or artillery. That Ukrainian command had assigned the 59th Territorial Defense Battalion to hold the town with the 425th Assault Battalion Skala guarding the left flank.

If that's true, then it's command failure for stretching that defense so thin at such an important point. Then again, we have no idea what the manpower and material situation is for the Ukrainian. That might have been all they could send.

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Founding and name origin
The origin of the name of the town remains a mystery that is the subject of many local legends. It could come from an entrepreneur or local dignitary, who would have settled from the United States or who would have had as a partner an American citizen from New York City.[6] Another explanation refers to the city of Jork, currently in northern Germany, where Mennonite settlers may have come from. The local historian Viktor Kovalov thus believes that the name of the locality may have corresponded to "Neu Jork" (new Jork) and evolved over time. It may also be the result of a transliteration error from the Latin alphabet to the Cyrillic alphabet.[7] However, the establishment of the Mennonites officially dates back to 1889, whereas the name Niu-York predates it. Another track recalls that names with a famous evocation were frequent in the region in the 19th century. Historical maps show a "Swiss farm" near Druzhkivka or a hamlet called "Carthage" around Soledar.[8] Also, historian Viktor Kovalov does not rule out the possibility of a joke.[6]

New York first appeared on maps in 1846.[9] The first official mention of the name of New York (Нью-Йорк) dates back to 1859 as one of the results of the census of the Yekaterinoslav Governorate, then part of the Russian Empire. The 1859 census confirmed that the locality then had 13 households, 45 men, 40 women and a factory.[9]

dead gay comedy forums posted:

motherfuck if niu york is taken it’s gonna be a lol

speng31b posted:

you dated a cia agent

Ardennes posted:

I mean, the Ukrainians have been saying all the pushes happening are "mysterious" or "confusing" or at least the situation is "unclear" but...it actually seems like a pretty clear situation.

It is just these units send in after the fall of Avdiivka have been worn down to a nub and there isn't a tremendous amount that can be done about it without new brigades. Moreover, it really seems a lot of already under-strength brigades have been strung out into unsupported battalions, with maybe 100-200 soldiers trying to defend a village without much support. It is a piecemeal defense.

Also, it is clear the Russians aren't on their last legs, or even the strength they were at the start of the invasion, but if anything, they are considerably stronger with both the ability to advance across the line and pressure the Ukrainians while building forces around Kharkov.

The Ukrainians best shot would be to build new defensive lines; the problem is the larger the "bloom" spreads, the longer that line is going to have to be.

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🇺🇦 The most bizarre thing happened in Odessa (Region) today.

Ukrainian channels posted how they used a Yak-52 training aircraft to shoot down a Russian "Orlan-10" recon drone.

Turns out they shot down a Ukrainian UJ-22 drone, while the Yak-52 was also fired upon from the ground but got lucky.

So long story short... Ukrainians used an old training plane to shoot down a Ukrainian drone, while almost shooting down their own training plane.

The Russian "Orlan-10" continues to fly like nothing happened.

Note: Some sources suggest it was a different Ukrainian drone, than the UJ-22.

🔴 @DDGeopolitics

Ardennes posted:

I mean, the Ukrainians have been saying all the pushes happening are "mysterious" or "confusing" or at least the situation is "unclear" but...it actually seems like a pretty clear situation.

It is just these units send in after the fall of Avdiivka have been worn down to a nub and there isn't a tremendous amount that can be done about it without new brigades. Moreover, it really seems a lot of already under-strength brigades have been strung out into unsupported battalions, with maybe 100-200 soldiers trying to defend a village without much support. It is a piecemeal defense.

Also, it is clear the Russians aren't on their last legs, or even the strength they were at the start of the invasion, but if anything, they are considerably stronger with both the ability to advance across the line and pressure the Ukrainians while building forces around Kharkov.

The Ukrainians best shot would be to build new defensive lines; the problem is the larger the "bloom" spreads, the longer that line is going to have to be.

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

I can not say enough that I love that you read Fire-Power and then Stopping the Panzers. That only leaves The Long Left Flank before you start trying to source Coffee Crisp and Second Cup in Manilla.

supersnowman posted:

A new comedy post to be taken with some salt of course as it could just be telegram BS.

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/108646

Gotta at least give them some points for the effort if it's true.

Danann posted:

There were Russian Hind-Ds hunting down drones last year when Ukraine spent their stockpile in support of the Great Counteroffensive.

It's not that far-fetched for slow planes and helicopters to go and try gunning drones down.

gradenko_2000 posted:

I finished The Long Left Flank tonight. What a poignant ending.

AmyL posted:

Which order should I read those books in?

supersnowman posted:

There is also the small problem of where you are digging it. We recently got videos of excavation equipment being hit and the front is moving slowly but still moving. The Suvorikin line was dug while the Ukrainians weren't pushing in that direction so the Russian could draw a plan and dig according to it. The Ukrainians now can't really do that because they need fortification on the active part of the frontline.

sum posted:

A force density of 100-200 men per km would only be 40k-80k men on the line across the entire eastern front, against 500k-600k Russian troops. I don't think that's possible, unless they're keeping the vast majority of their forces away from zero. I guess it's possible that Russia has developed tactics to advance on a drone-dominated battlefield, biting off the isolated forward outposts that make up the front edge of the defense and blocking them off from the main body of the defense with FPVs and artillery.