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What is the most powerful flying bug?
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🦋 15 3.71%
🦇 115 28.47%
🪰 12 2.97%
🐦 67 16.58%
dragonfly 94 23.27%
🦟 14 3.47%
🐝 87 21.53%
Total: 404 votes
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HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007
is this the pro imperialism thread

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HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Paramemetic posted:

If you didn't get in on the first page you might as well pack it in because Kyiv is still Ukrainian

woah hey buddy

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Xaris posted:

from the old thread, this was pretty good







thats a lot of words by noted cspammer Glenn greenwald

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Amethyst posted:

why would you post this. what on earth gave you the idea that anyone on earth would want to read "hey wheres my putin"? no one gives a gently caress about this idiot post! delete your account

im putin in a post as we speak :evilbuddy:

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007
im gay for pay (putin's pay)

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Breakfast All Day posted:

thanks for reading

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

HashtagGirlboss posted:

Welcome back thread. You’re not wrong about that QCS thread. It goes places. I’m not sure how much longer spaces that look at the war in a nuanced skeptical way are going to last on any English language platform, that’s hardly SA specific. There’s a certain dogged moral certainty that has overtaken pretty much everyone. It’s almost been remarkable to watch it develop in real time

I really don’t think it helps at all that most of the higher profile voices in opposition to US involvement have been MAGA types

The CPC letter and the push to deplatform BJG are other examples. It’s wild out there

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Al-Saqr posted:

nah it’s the Kill Team starter set, I’m absolutely gonna get the squat kill team if it comes out though, sadly the sisters aren’t interesting in this game yet.

regular 40k is too much of a money and time sink to be payable with normal people

ork kill teams seems like its right up this thread's alley

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Raskolnikov38 posted:

i do think the vitriol of the pro-ukrainian side is largely confined to social media. no one in DC* seems to talk or care about the war at all anymore

*federal triangle and adjoining areas excepted

confirm

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

ArmZ posted:

i love the nuanced skepticism here that says everything is nato's fault

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Frosted Flake posted:

You know, it hadn’t occurred to me but the conversation in another thread sparked my interest about what I’m going to term Triple Genocide Theory, that German policies in East Africa prefigured the Holocaust. This was in vogue in the 90’s when books came out about Hermann Goering’s father, for example.

The scholarship now, which I guess is the second generation of post-colonial studies, paints a very different picture. Crucially, and this is what I want to draw attention to, it shows that the Germans were not all-powerful colonial overlords and instead came into a situation without much control, much administrative capability, unfolding chaos, and a food supply problem there was no easy solution to. What they did in reaction to that was reprehensible and often criminal, but they didn’t create the situation because they weren’t omniscient and omnipotent.

To be clear - there were widespread famines in German East Africa, German policies often made it worse, and some policies targeted specific groups, or at least, did not extend relief to them.

The difference between the Soviet Archives being opened and not is knowing how much (or indeed how little) information the Soviets had, and how much ability to act. It’s led to reappraisals across whole fields and disciplines, for example the realization the Stalinism presented a sort of executive control that did not actually exist in the bureaucratized USSR, but the popular memory endures. People believed that the Soviets were a towering Totalitarian™️ state, but of course we know now that they were wary of mass politics, the committees and Party handled nearly all of the functions of state, the bureaucracy often did not have the kind of perfect information and total control that it appeared to and so on.

None of this would be apparent to people suffering under it, or writers afterwards. In the case of German East Africa, Prussian Efficiency and Bureaucracy are such strong stereotypes in the English speaking world that there’s been resistance to the idea that they could have possibly been in a situation where they didn’t have much authority, regions and people within their formal borders were outside their control, they were unable to remedy the food supply situation, etc. We think of an all-powerful German state, an all-powerful Soviet state, and so assume all events that transpire within it are under their total control, that they have total information, can act totally, and so in both cases the often very dry and boring records that bear out administrators trying to cope with a situation - and again, often acting reprehensibly - that’s ignored because it doesn’t fit with the English speaking world’s idea of their state power.

i like this nuance from you, its really well written. i don't know how much you were gisting but it reads real well

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Hadlock posted:

Is it just me or does everyone with the stable Diffusion ai Bernie Sanders avatars just kind of blend together now

Except for the shifty nipples one, that one rules, long may be reign

no, we are all slurnie kkklanders

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Amethyst posted:

posting about the ukraine war in a comedy way. putin is wide walking hahahaa they even set it to a "dub step" soundtrack 👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀 good poo poo go౦ԁ poo poo👌 thats ✔ some good👌👌poo poo right👌👌there👌👌👌 right✔there ✔✔if i do ƽaү so my self 💯 i say so 💯 thats what im talking about right there right there (chorus: ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ) mMMMMᎷМ💯 👌👌 👌НO0ОଠOOOOOОଠଠOoooᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ👌 👌👌 👌 💯 👌 👀 👀 👀 👌👌Good poo poo
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:discourse:

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Al-Saqr posted:

Putin and zelensky should both give up, come to my house and play 40k with me :hmmorks:

id play 40k with u

i hope you like a bern loser (check my av for confirmation)

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

wat

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

sum posted:

You think that the country that spends nearly a trillion dollars a year on its military can't afford to refurbish its own mothballed inventory?

its less a matter of "could" rather than "won't"

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Don't quote me

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

mlmp08 posted:

I'll try not to

get out

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Majorian posted:

Your posts are an infantile disorder.

it pains me to quote this but

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

The Fattest PI posted:

haha I know speng loves that helldump kinda jazz and has quoted that post 30 odd times now, but for the record that was me being devastatingly affected by a video I saw. I wasn't exactly cheering it on

also gently caress off

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

christ this dense motherfucker

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

gradenko_2000 posted:

lol why are you upset at Tracey: it's far more common for people in the contrarian milieu to give Republicans the time of day as they take them at their word that they're "anti-war"

like Glenn Greenwald

so it's a net improvement that someone in his circles is going "hey these people don't actually mean that, don't fall for it"

mainly because his evidence is "one dude from the supposed opposition said 'no blank checks'" too.

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

speng31b posted:

Tracey has been largely correct with his takes lately, but they're still like 80% boring low energy stuff that isn't worth reposting, for example

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1589627791871737856

if he could be less of a low energy dweeb he might eventually evolve into something more powerful. I think Maxine needs to brain him again

yeah thats more accurately why i find him so stupid and irritating even when his premises are accidentally correct

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Hatebag posted:

I think when your party leadership is as billionaire-heavy as the ccp you gotta consider that they might be capitalists

raising the standard of living across the board for the entire country on regular cycles is going to create some disproportionate concentrations of wealth. that's just material fact. capitalism has never eliminated destitute poverty for anyone because it requires it to exist as a condition to create reserve armies of labor. socialism creates wealth for all, even if some uneven development is inevitable for a country of 1.9 billion people. and billionaires (in yuan? check the exchange rate on that too) who don't toe the line on the five year plans or abuse their status, office or resources get removed, and corrupt ones either stripped of their wealth and asset, jailed, and in some cases executed. this is also not a thing that has ever happened to anyone in the upper strata of capitalist society, ever (absent violent revolution).

the line of argumentation you take is farcical if you compare it to actual reality, but its so common because by pretending china is just another capitalist country you enable yourself to avoid confronting any actual contradictions in your worldview, such as those i mentioned above.

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Hatebag posted:

My point is that wealth is communal in a communist state. I think china is more accurately described as socialist rather than communist and that the individuals in the ccp are capitalists because they use personally held capital to make money. China is probably the best country in the world but that doesn't mean that words have no meaning

Capitalism is a basis of economic production it loses any meaning when you define it by the practices of individuals, it is on a societal basis not a personal one and nobody has the unique ability or authority to change that character, any more so then me walking out in the street declaring the United States to be socialist does gently caress all to change the political economy in the United States does

Similarly socialism is just the intermediary period building the conditions for communism. Unless one decides to take the questionable line of argument that a society would like to pursue socialism but with no intent to build towards communism in doing so then it's a useless attempt at splitting hairs to make that distinction you mentioned

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

speng31b posted:

bricking this orc, but somberly, for its own good

playtime has been denazified

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

stephenthinkpad posted:

Also, in the weapon sales, the US is not selling more weapons to new markets, they are selling more weapons to Germany and Poland, effectively stealing the contracts from France. So, basically, the big MIC killing the small MICs within the same western bloc ("liberal democracy world order")

ironically, also the same mechanism neoliberal imperialism uses to create neocolonies within the periphery

foucaults boomerang always a reliable indicator of sharpening contradictions

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Majorian posted:

NAFO are some of the dumbest, most bloodthirsty morons I've ever encountered, and I used to live in DC.

Trust me the baying for orc blood is fading but still omnipresent everywhere

Much like in NYC there are doors and yards with Ukrainian flags in them still

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

no man is an island

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Mantis42 posted:

No, Man is an island!

no, island for good men

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

wow.

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

MLSM posted:

Western marxism in practice is nothing more than liberalism

having principles usually makes you anathema to the western left, on the other hand, organize! hmm

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

gently caress off idiot

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Corky Romanovsky posted:

Anarchist Florida Man seems to have been shook and needed to reaffirm to himself his internalized beliefs.

https://youtu.be/fyaG64rGWoU

lol

his takes are not great on average but this is stupid as gently caress even so from him

please read books people i am begging you

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007
i just like how beau went from criticizing us foreign policy under trump to outright endorsing US state department positions under biden

really makes you think

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

dieselfruit posted:

James "I'll Show Myself" LaPorta

lol

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

speng31b posted:

did read

propaganda doesn't need to be sophisticated anymore! its almost like liberals don't need to be convinced about stuff because their media consumption pattern is about actively looking to be told what to believe so they can repeat it uncritically

wow i cant imagine!!! what do you call it

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

The Atomic Man-Boy posted:

If it’s any consolation, propaganda can be really loving lazy because it doesn’t matter because public opinion doesn’t matter anymore.

We treat this poo poo and root for our favorite characters like it was an episode of Game of Thrones because we have been conditioned to see foreign policy as something completely detached from our lives, because it largely is.

Even if you convinced them, what are they gonna do? Vote for the Democrats to support Ukraine because it supports democracy, or the Republicans who support Ukraine because it’s full of Nazis? Doesn’t matter because the money comes out of your paycheck and goes to the same Nazis, because that’s what capital demands.

well yes, because national chauvinism is institutionalized

just cold war mark 2

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HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

OctaMurk posted:

north korea is the freest nation in teh world

thats not blood in my mouth its victory wine

the DPRK has fully powered infrastructure, that satellite pic i know you're thinking of was doctored the same as the memes the ukr MoD has been putting out since the start of the conflict

i guess the ROK MofA employs the same meme shop

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