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How much longer is Twitter going to last?
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koolkal
Oct 21, 2008
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Ohtori Akio posted:

e: forgot this was D&D. I'll write up a real post here shortly.

ee: I've been genuinely wondering what happened to employee stock grants. Did they get accelerated and cashed out? Would the take-private have added a huge net incentive to move on for pretty much every employee?

AFAIK there were provisions built-in to the purchase agreement that covered employees. This is why Elon decided against his initial plan to do mass layoffs prior to Nov. 1, he would have had to pay for litigation costs and penalties on top of making the fired employees whole according to https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/11/...ce=articleShare

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koolkal
Oct 21, 2008
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He's picked fights with several Dem senators and federal organizations before and has never faced any consequences.

Why would this be different?

koolkal
Oct 21, 2008
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He could also just buy the loan himself or pay it off and he would own it debt free. He would have to sell more Tesla stock though

koolkal
Oct 21, 2008
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May also be a ploy to keep the debt held by the banks at low values. Since he (well, Twitter, technically but effectively him) has to service that debt, the debt itself being undervalued makes it easier for him to buy it himself at a lower price, in theory. The banks are already having trouble selling it and they have 0 interest in owning Twitter if it defaults so will be interesting to see what happens there. He could, in a few months, present them with an ultimatum to either sell the debt to him at X value (much less than the $13B? it was originally valued at) or Twitter will simply default on it.

koolkal
Oct 21, 2008
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Apartheid Clyde implementing a poll tax

koolkal
Oct 21, 2008
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A bit about the Mastodon issues referenced in that article, the 2 instances they're referring to are Pawoo, an instance maintained by Pixiv, which is basically a Japanese equivalent of Deviantart, and mstdn JP which is essentially the main Japanese server. Both are based in Japan and run based on Japanese law and thus have tons of horny drawings of underage anime girls, which is both pretty popular and legal there.

Mastodon in general was majority Japanese users prior to the recent Twitter surge.

TLDR: close ADTRW

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koolkal
Oct 21, 2008
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OgNar posted:

Ublock Origin really gets 99.999% of any ads for me.
Along with Bypass Paywalls
https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome
And this quick javascript switcher for stuff like Washington post, I rarely have problems accessing any news site.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/quick-javascript-switcher/geddoclleiomckbhadiaipdggiiccfje?hl=en-US
Turning off javascript and its paywall nag for that site will block stuff like images for the news post but will allow me to read it no problem.

I use a fork of the bypass extension: https://gitlab.com/magnolia1234/bypass-paywalls-chrome-clean

The main benefit is it tends to get updated faster + covers more websites.

koolkal
Oct 21, 2008
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Eh, if it's streamlined and easy to sign up and automatically pushes everyone to a single main instance where 99% of people will hang out, it's basically just Twitter.

koolkal
Oct 21, 2008
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Discord is nice because you can set up a private space and not have any random shithead dropping in or snooping on you. There is no LibsOfDiscord.

If you want a public space, Reddit already exists. Why does Discord need to be Reddit v2?

koolkal
Oct 21, 2008
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Yes, the nazis are hurting for spaces to communicate, stuck with just Twitter and Facebook and Parler and Gab and 4chan and 8chan and Telegram and Element and Signal and a dozen other sites lmao

koolkal
Oct 21, 2008
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Ugh, Jack is only slightly less of a demented shithead

koolkal
Oct 21, 2008
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Tree Reformat posted:

But they are! Every time you post anything, anywhere (even here on SA, like we are right this moment!), you are trying to sell, at the very least, your opinion to an audience and hoping for engagement in return. The only people your position applies to are true lurkers who never, ever post a single thing themselves.

Most people don't tweet. A small proportion of serial tweeters make up essentially all tweets.

koolkal
Oct 21, 2008
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Hmm, how does that compare to other big accounts though? Considering how many users never tweet it seems reasonable that a number of users would have 0 followers.

koolkal
Oct 21, 2008
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OneEightHundred posted:

Everything I've seen suggests that the first point is going to be the main roadblock because they built the entire dumb thing on a technological base that is just not scalable at all.

What's wrong with their tech?

koolkal
Oct 21, 2008
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No one in the US says much about the Modi government so you get dumb crap like Biden hiring a Modi supporter to join his campaign staff or Facebook feeling free to do whatever the BJP wants.

koolkal
Oct 21, 2008
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All time classic

koolkal
Oct 21, 2008
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As long as it's homegrown American AI spam I don't see the issue

koolkal
Oct 21, 2008
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E: Wrong thread

koolkal fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Apr 21, 2024

koolkal
Oct 21, 2008
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Main Paineframe posted:

Might be the wrong thread for this, but that doesn't say anything about raids. It's talking about weed being seized from vehicles passing through Border Patrol checkpoints.

Yes, I thought this was the USCE thread!

koolkal fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Apr 21, 2024

koolkal
Oct 21, 2008
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evilweasel posted:

you absolutely do, I'd much rather be upset at some bad things inconsistently than consistently in favor of all bad things

So if the government passed a new law tomorrow saying there will be new gun control laws passed but only apply to black people, you would be in favor of it?

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koolkal
Oct 21, 2008
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I can certainly see some risks from becoming friendly with Facebook, although not immediately. If every instance accepts Threads, Threads gains a lot of power. What's stopping them from starting to influence changes to the base ActivityPub protocol to support their needs? And they can threaten to fork it if they don't get what they want and require all federated instances to follow their fork or get banned. A lot of smaller instances would have to choose between supporting FacePub or pissing off a ton of their users if they lose access to Threads.

Certainly there are good long-term reasons to resist their grasp although it seems unlikely that any notable instances will do so given the size of Threads and interconnectivity being the core of ActivityPub.

koolkal
Oct 21, 2008
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Expected but will be interesting to see how this plays out given the number of government congresspeople and others that have said the Tiktok ban is due to the war. SCOTUS acting on national security concerns seems the main way this will get through so I would expect Tiktok to present the various people who voted on it saying before/after that it's due to the pro-Palestinian content on the app. But Tiktok doesn't seem to be particularly competently run outside of their engineering dept. so I wouldn't be surprised if they gently caress up the case either lol

koolkal
Oct 21, 2008
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socialsecurity posted:

Have they said this? The ban they've been working on and workshopping for years is because of a war that kicked into high gear 6-7 months ago?

https://www.wsj.com/tech/how-tiktok-was-blindsided-by-a-u-s-bill-that-could-ban-it-7201ac8b?mod=itp_wsj
https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilybaker-white/2024/03/28/lawmakers-statements-on-tiktok-may-hamstring-their-ban/?sh=250d993df010
https://theintercept.com/2024/05/04/josh-gottheimer-mike-lawler-campus-protests/
https://twitter.com/wideofthepost/status/1787104142982283587
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/lawmakers-tiktok-ban-pro-palestinian-content-1235016101/

This is a non-exhaustive list of articles containing statements from lawmakers (well, not the WSJ article directly) pointing to content related to the war.

koolkal
Oct 21, 2008
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Morroque posted:

While certainly curious in light of recent circumstances, the anti-TikTok animus the US has is much older than the current Israeli slaughter of Gaza. The US has been trying to undermine TikTok for much longer, including all the way back into the Trump administration, and for reasons which still are still not entirely clear. They may just be using the post October 7th chaos as a retroactive justification.

It's because it's Chinese-owned, it's very clear. And them using October 7th as justification is very dumb because blaming pro-Palestinian or pro-bin Laden or pro-terrorist content is exactly the kind of 1st Amendment breach that will help Tiktok. The main way this bill succeeds is if it is on the grounds of Tiktok being a national security threat since it's owned and controlled by a foreign enemy (China). That gets undermined if half the people voting for it get on TV and say there's too much pro-Palestinian speech being posted and thus it must be shut down. Although given the current SCOTUS it's hard to say how much this will matter since they love NatSec.

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koolkal
Oct 21, 2008
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ElegantFugue posted:

There was also that thing where the congresspeople said "one of the reasons we're worried about this app is that it could somehow get a large portion of their userbase doing the bidding of a foreign country" and rather than doing the boilerplate " :monocle: what, us? Never, we're super ethical" response that every other megacorp with that kind of control over a userbase responds with, they instead, uh, got a large portion of their userbase to flood every congressperson's office with angry messages demanding nobody take away their Tiktoks (and also some confused messages about how to get past this dumb new login screen).

Like, all questions about who is wrong and who is more wrong aside, why would Tiktok think that would help

As long as Tiktok is an entity that enjoys 1A protections, that is legally protected speech. If the government is trying to claim that Tiktok US is not protected by 1A, well, that's certainly a completely different argument than saying they are a national security threat which is the argument put forth in the actual bill.

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