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FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Been a banner day for Musk

https://twitter.com/business/status/1590823031294894097?s=20&t=lIjKXVwWiYbpfZoV4LuABw

https://twitter.com/MikeIsaac/status/1590810660887461888?s=20&t=lIjKXVwWiYbpfZoV4LuABw

https://twitter.com/drewharwell/status/1590822878274097152?s=20&t=lIjKXVwWiYbpfZoV4LuABw

https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1590794421418790935?s=20&t=lIjKXVwWiYbpfZoV4LuABw

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FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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skylined! posted:

So is there any direct personal benefit for Elon for tanking twitter on purpose? Outside of like, shadowy deals from foreign powers that would want it tanked on purpose?
No, it's his money that's on the line here for the most part. Some of it is the banks' money, but a lot of it is his. He's just a moron and I think he thought that he could weasel out of buying the company, and when that didn't work, he clearly came into Twitter with no real plan other than 'find ways to make more money'.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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nine-gear crow posted:

1) Which man? Both tweeters are horrifyingly dumb. 2) Elon didn't found PayPal and Zip2, like every other one of his companies, he funded them. The man hasn't invented a thing in his life except new ways to spend money on stuff. And 3) isn't this the blog that did a full-court press to try and cover up and disprove the fact that Telsas ran over children on auto-pilot, right up to putting out as "I require one (1) live human child for a live fire experiment, you will be compensated if your child/children do not survive." request that got laughed off the internet. Also lol they paid Elonk for a checkmark.
Yes and if you look at the projects that Elon has been the most involved in, those are the biggest shitshows

Like just look at his ‘robot’ or anything involving The Boring Co.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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There are rumors that the company is down to around 600 employees or less. I saw one report saying maybe 250. They had 7500 when Musk walked in the door not even three weeks ago.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Probably not long. Their 2FA system is still down.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Young Freud posted:

There's a lot of rumors going around that Twitter has less than 250-300 employees left

Edit:

Here we go....
https://twitter.com/ScottMStedman/status/1593427031907106821?s=20&t=cMfJed8SXCfYHX991_o3MA
I think this is because everyone heard Twitter is dying and trying to jump on at once

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Another account posted the full Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift but it got taken down

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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nine-gear crow posted:

$44 billion. Dude spent $44 billion to buy Trump's account back for him, and Daddy went "Nah, I'm good." and just kept posting on Truther.

Oh well, at least Elon unbanned the Babylon Bee. So maybe it was?
He also unsuspended Kanye today apparently, who then proceeded to post more anti-Semitic garbage

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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There are three games tomorrow, there was only the one today

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Twitter’s already not paying its bills

https://twitter.com/mikeisaac/status/1595127540397449217?s=46&t=LmUy5P3_qisJme1_YNcSxA

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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He’s attempting to bully companies like Amazon and Oracle into charging him less

https://twitter.com/ryanlcooper/status/1595129268883054593?s=46&t=LmUy5P3_qisJme1_YNcSxA

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Dril got quoted in the Washington Post

https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1595454535258054661?s=46&t=lFB53UbEkY1qqi_0qFwcRg

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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So just in the last couple of weeks, Musk has tried to bully Apple, Google, and Oracle. Bold move Cotton, let’s see how this plays out

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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nine-gear crow posted:

People are already actively trying to lobby Apple to de-list Twitter off the AppStore because of the wave of godawful bullshit Musk has unleashed on the site. I wonder if this might sway their decision in any way? :thunk:
It’s certainly not going to help

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Really smart to complain to your #1 advertiser

https://twitter.com/faizsays/status/1597346543451148288?s=20&t=OHPEipIXeIYoK83tLt7svg

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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This seems like it won’t end well

https://twitter.com/wired/status/1597320366002610183?s=46&t=9Z1BFALv98P2tH4abwjPtQ

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Automata 10 Pack posted:

Hive kinda sucks.

Mastondon is good and could be popular if they just explained the whole "instance" situation better and made that aspect a lot more intuitive.
Can someone just make a clone of Twitter without the Nazis and security holes?

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Hive on paper sounded OK but clearly it’s just a shitshow

At this point it makes more sense to wait and see where the majority of people go and not rush, or you end up getting compromised

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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evilweasel posted:

parler pulled out because ye has no money, they just chose to announce it yesterday to try and imply it was because of the hitler thing
Yeah in their statement they mentioned that the sale fell through in November but the timing of this announcement was deliberate

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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How the hell is Tumblr of all places benefiting from Twitter's slow death

While I guess (for now) Twitter isn't going to go down immediately, there's no way with the advertising crashing the way it is that he's going to be able to make that debt service payment next year.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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nine-gear crow posted:

So far the only two big drops from The Twitter Files that anyone with a brain cares about are 1) the Biden presidential campaign asked Twitter during the 2020 election to remove and suppress any photos of Hunter Biden's massive penis that people were posting Twitter because it actually constituted revenge porn, and 2) Twitter under Jack Dorsey's command had a top level "DO NOT BAN THIS PERSON UNLESS SHE ACTUALLY KILLS SOMEONE HERSELF" flag that came up any time anyone on Twitter's moderation team moved to take action against Chaya Raichik's Libs of Tik Tok account because @jack actually really liked the way she was doing poo poo like putting targets on children's hospitals and burlesque shows.
Yeah the 'Twitter Files' confirmed why LibsofTikTok has been untouchable so far in terms of being banned despite the account holder repeatedly inciting violence

I would like to know why she's special to Jack though. That I don't really understand.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Acebuckeye13 posted:

A good point, which lead me to look up some important data: According to this article, "since 2019, 38% of Tesla buyers have identified themselves as Democrats, and 30% have said they’re Republicans." Furthermore, "New vehicle registration data from IHS Markit suggest that “blue” states - those that voted for Biden over Donald Trump - are more likely to have a higher share of EVs than “red” states. But many of those red states are very rural and have a high percentage of pickup truck registrations, and EV pickups are still virtually nonexistant. Many of the more rural blue states also have low EV adoption rates. And some of the blue states have better incentives for EV buyers, such as state tax credits or the ability to drive in car pool lanes on highways."

So effectively, Musk is effectively alienating up to forty percent of his customer base. And let's not forget: brand loyalty is extremely important for automakers. There are still people that refuse to buy American cars because of the shitboxes they made in the '70s and '80s. Teens who bought secondhand Corollas in the '90s are still buying Toyota today. As long as Musk continues his highly public and vocal rightward turn, he's going to push away both potential and existing Tesla drivers into the arms of his competitors, and most of those customers aren't going to come back even if Tesla is severed from Musk.

Just a huge, incredible self-own.

e: More data: According to this report, Tesla's market share of EV sales has dropped from 75% in Q1 of this year to 64% in Q3, with Ford, GM, and Hyundai sales rising rapidly. Tesla is still on top but is losing ground, and the absolute last thing it needs is Elon making the brand toxic to potential buyers.
Tesla is absolutely hosed long-term. Their only advantage thus far has been EVs as status symbols, but the big boys in the auto industry are coming for Tesla in the next year or two, and it's going to be impossible for Tesla to complete directly with giants like Toyota, Kia, Hyundai, Ford, etc.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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nine-gear crow posted:

Jack has always been a massive creep who loves rightwing shitbirds. He was and still is good friends and mutual followers with Mike "drink gorilla cum to become gorilla strong" Cernovich. The reason why Twitter had a massive Nazi problem even before Elon took over was because Jack Dorsey kinda loved Nazis and thought it was cool that they had a space in the marketplace of ideas until the rest of Twitter's board of directors grabbed him by the balls and bulldogged him into trying to clean the place up a tiny bit, which was going moderately apace until Elon came in with his dumbfuck buyout offer and Jack grabbed the ring and yanked it because that's all he ever really out of life: a shitton of money and no responsibility.
Funny story...Jack didn't take the stock buyout, he apparently took an equity stake instead

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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I think it's a really dumb decision, but Jack is one of those weird Silicon Valley sociopaths who lives in a bubble and I'm sure he trusts Elon as some kind of Business God

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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I get that, but they should have been banned ages ago

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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nine-gear crow posted:

At last, they'll finally get to share their evidence that will lead to the immediate execution of Steve Bannon by the Marshall General of the Supreme Court :getin:
That's the wrong grifter

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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There's also Rick Wilson and the entire Lincoln Project

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Absurd Alhazred posted:

There's also Meidas Touch that's always given me Krassenstein/Lincoln Project vibes.
Yeah that, also Mueller She Wrote, which is the woman who got a PPP loan to make a blog or whatever

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Young Freud posted:

Musk made an appearance at a Dave Chappelle-Chris Rock show in San Francisco and was greeted with a stadium full of boos. As a result, anyone trying to tweet the video of the incident is having their accounts deleted.
Ah yes, ‘free speech’ wins again

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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It was reported a few weeks ago that Musk was just straight-up telling his employees to stop paying providers like Amazon and Oracle in an attempt to get them to 'renegotiate terms'. Now he's doing it with the rent on Twitter HQ.

https://twitter.com/aterkel/status/1602784292433760256?s=20&t=fzlv80lhuEeTmWRNlDAk6g

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Musk is really pushing the limits of the whole "rich people are allowed to do crimes" thing, I wonder how far he'll go before someone in a position of authority bothers to try and stop his blatantly illegal activities.
I don't know what you can really do about it. If he refuses to pay things, he'll probably end up in court. Then he'll either pay a settlement or just start endless litigation to bury his opponents in legal costs (which is what Trump loved to do all the time).

What I don't know is how much of Musk's assets are liquid. It seems like the vast majority of his wealth is tied to Tesla stock, which has been in a nosedive for like two months plus now. If he doesn't have a ton of liquid assets then it's harder for him to just keep paying lawyers to make his problems go away.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Congrats to new Twitter CEO Ian Miles Cheong

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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At best he'll sell it at some kind of loss, but yeah I don't think that there's a good exit from this

Remember that he attempted to sue to get out of having to buy the company and was clearly going to lose, so he ended up essentially buying it under protest

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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I just don’t understand how he can think the Babylon Bee is funny

Like when he bought Twitter one of the things that particularly upset him about the previous ownership is that they banned the Bee

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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I hope this was all worth it for the lulz Elon

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1605324741086023682?s=20&t=j-GIXDP53aB7G4SszT58Yw

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Durst has actually directed a bunch of TV episodes of different shows over the last 10-15 years. A lot of B/C grade celebrities got very into NFT poo poo so that part doesn't shock me.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Starting to think it's the latter considering he has mostly ignored the whole thing since he lost, other than to say he'll stay on until further notice. There have been a few Tweets he's replied to that are claiming that bots influenced the outcome, which also makes me think that he's choosing to ignore the entire thing

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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https://twitter.com/aridrennen/status/1605980787618484224?s=46&t=MC1R2AdgJ-LkfxLV9vI4Ag

Nice

Stock has been down a bunch today alone

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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haveblue posted:

It's kinda sad that Tesla's value is crashing because of extremely online meltdowns and not because the cars are poorly built and their banner feature is that they love to cause accidents
Stock has been going down for over a year now, it’s just accelerated since he took over Twitter

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FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Musk did a Twitter Spaces event with Tesla investors and holy poo poo is it something else

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https://twitter.com/williamlegate/status/1606058459568279552?s=46&t=VVnSKVQcGEs8-u6TNrdyVg

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