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How much longer is Twitter going to last?
A few weeks
A few months
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About as long as the rest of humanity
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Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

haveblue posted:

No. There is nothing else that can fill the role twitter does right now, which is a big reason why it hasn't fully imploded yet. There are some things that will probably get there eventually, like Mastodon, but if Musk burns the whole place down overnight an enormous number of communities, social connections, media networks, etc will just irreparably evaporate.

I'm a linguist whose current research projects use Twitter as a corpus and I am desperately trying to scrape language data because if Twitter implodes I am hosed.

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Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

Considering it was never really profitable, I'm not sure why anyone would want to make a clone.

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.


https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1591103912769392641

He doesn't even know what the hell he paid $44 billion for.

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

I'm in Japan, and oddly enough Twitter has IMPROVED a bit here. The Japanese content curators were fired in Musk's purge and Japanese Twitter has become a lot less political and toxic. There have been several articles about it. The Japanese Twitter staff were obviously steering content toward more political (and pro-LDP, the right wing ruler party) for years. But I still get a taste of the hellworld as all the US people are follow discuss it, wait for the end, and for some reason Musk tweets and #TSLA stock tweets from the fanboys hoping to ride Musk's coattails and become rich from him somehow still make it onto my feed...

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

The translate tweet function suddenly disappeared from my account (only one account, still works on other accounts on the same PC, and still works on the mobile app for that account) but Twitter Support appears to have been mostly fired so lol.

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

https://twitter.com/GergelyOrosz/status/1595684664228052992

So he apparently fired a bunch of devs based on his 'code review', the day before Thanksgiving, and gave them 4 weeks severance. If they had chosen to leave instead of clicking 'yes' to Twitter Hardcore, they would have gotten 3 months severance.

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

Owling Howl posted:

His obsession with code is bizarre. Twitter works fine. There's nothing technically wrong with it. It doesn't sell enough ads to be profitable.

He doesn't know how to do it, so he thinks it is magic capable of solving all the world's problems.

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

I've never in my life given a poo poo or clicked on anything about Tesla stock, and yet Twitter now is constantly pushing tweets about how I need to go all in on Tesla to my feed.

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

FlamingLiberal posted:

I don't know what you can really do about it. If he refuses to pay things, he'll probably end up in court. Then he'll either pay a settlement or just start endless litigation to bury his opponents in legal costs (which is what Trump loved to do all the time).

What I don't know is how much of Musk's assets are liquid. It seems like the vast majority of his wealth is tied to Tesla stock, which has been in a nosedive for like two months plus now. If he doesn't have a ton of liquid assets then it's harder for him to just keep paying lawyers to make his problems go away.

If he refuses to pay his vendors, surely they can revoke Twitter's licenses, causes the entire website to go down as all the underlying services are cut off.

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

oliveoil posted:

So uh is there a twitter alternative that isn't used mostly by pedophiles?

https://www.secjuice.com/mastodon-child-porn-pedophiles/

There is basically no form of social media that isn't full of pedophiles.

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

This also broke most, if not all, scrapers and data collection tools. Was in the middle of expanding a dataset for some linguistic research I'm doing when everything broke. Looks like I'll need to make due with what I have already and hope that's enough for a paper.

EDIT: Nevermind. Posted that just as I was getting out of bed, but it looks like the makers of my scraper have found a workaround and it maybe works again.

Tuxedo Gin fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Jan 15, 2023

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

No, he definitely wants EVERYONE to see his poo poo. He is extremely concerned about how many impressions he is getting. Dude paid 44 billion dollars to force everyone to see his shitposts.

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

https://twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/1632843191773716481

This thread is insane.

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

I'm laughing more at Musk's choice to carry that conversation out publicly on Twitter instead of, I don't know, having HR look into it?

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.


Funnier is the last part of this tweet:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1633240643727138824

I wonder if he will internalize this lesson learned (he won't)

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

Republicans posted:

Anyone else getting tweets on their timeline from people they don't follow or nobody you follow follows and they just show up like you follow them, no labels or anything?

yeah, his name is elon musk

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

FlamingLiberal posted:

Twitter will probably die sooner than we think, because it's hemorrhaging money and at some point this year Elon has to pay a $1 billion debt service payment, and I don't see how he does that without dipping into his own fortune. It's sure as hell not going to come from Twitter.

It seems like he's desperate enough to own the libs to dip in to his own fortune in order to try to show that his big brained genius didn't burn the company to the ground.

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

haveblue posted:

He’s not even paying, he’s just not charging them

Yeah, but he SAYS he's paying for them.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1649173502572765185

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

Of course he's not paying. But it is hilariously pathetic that he insists that he is personally paying for certain celebrities out of his own pocket out of charity.

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

Dick Trauma posted:

I flew for the first time in years and was shocked at how bad the nickle-and-diming has become. Every little thing had a charge, every little thing had an upsell. I was peppered with emails trying to get me to spend more more more on a 1.5 hour flight. It was so stupid, particularly because the flying experience for those flying economy only ever gets worse, and the higher classes only become more extravagantly priced.

That's just how everything works now - now just flying. Everything as a service, everything is an add-on, everything is a subscription.

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

Apparently Reddit is now threatening mods of popular subreddits to re-open or be dethroned and replaced:

https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/16/23763538/reddit-blackout-api-protest-mod-replacement-threat

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/reddit-reportedly-begins-telling-mods-to-reopen-shuttered-subreddits-or-face-replacement/ar-AA1cEnVg

So much for "the blackouts don't hurt us at all and we're definitely not worried or mad about them"

Tuxedo Gin fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Jun 17, 2023

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

Young Freud posted:

Looks like Twitter is down outside of the app, probably related to the API change. Everyone is getting the "Rate Limit Exceeded" on the browser, but not on phone, although there's a some that's the opposite.

Edit: And not I getting "Cannot retrieve Tweets" on my phone now.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1675187969420828672

Musk implemented READ limits for all accounts. 600 tweets/day for non-paying accounts.

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

It's genius. Why hasn't any other social media platform thought of trying to force people to spend LESS time engaged with the platform and its ads?

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

Mercury_Storm posted:

Twitter used to be more popular in Japan before Musk took over, also the X symbol generally means "fail" or "do not want" over there too lol.

Something weird happened in Japan with Twitter last night. Loads and loads of people got suddenly suspended, for seemingly no reason (myself included). Trending last night were keywords like "account suspension" and "suspension festival" and "shadowban". Musk has managed to shake one of his biggest userbases that was largely ignorant of and didn't care about all the drama he has been causing.... until now.

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

MeinPanzer posted:

The worst in my experience is moving country and then discovering that certain businesses or services won’t allow you to use a phone number from the country you’ve moved to for multi factor authentication. My Canadian bank account started requiring a Canadian phone for MFA but I live outside of Canada so I have to get my dad to use his phone whenever I want to log in and it’s a huge pain in the rear end.

I had the same issue when I moved overseas. I now use some service that gives me a US number to receive text messages and emails them to me for this purpose because I was tired of having to schedule times with family to relay codes to me for poo poo. Pretty cheap and easy solution.

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Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

A lot of security poo poo is stupid and poorly implemented. As a password manager user, I am infuriated by systems that disallow pasting passwords when creating/changing passwords. I want to use a strong and very long password for everything and if they're going to make me type it in by hand twice I'm a lot more likely to get frustrated and enter a password that meets the bare minimum requirements (8 characters, one number, one capital, one symbol) than a 16-20+ character long complex password.

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