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VT2 is great and going back makes me miss the Ubersreik 5 and all the dialogue they have compared to the convict dialogue in Darktide. Also the handcrafted levels are way better.
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One thing I do miss from VT2 and Darktide are VT1's objectives-based missions where you're in one spot completing various tasks. Not every level needs to be a gauntlet run. Blackpowder, Waterfront and even the infamous Wheat and Chaff or Well Warch were all nice breathers from the longer missions and it was fun being able to accomplish tasks out of order.
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Yeah those were also pretty fun, as well as the Last Stand modes for those that got released later on.
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Apr 9, 2024 16:38
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The more freeform and open the area, the harder that area tends to be for random pub groups. Case in point is the final objective of the Hab Dreyko map, where the team needs to scan two sets of 5 locations before escaping. Nearly every team tends to get scattered to some extent, and as a result I’ve seen the most player deaths at that segment by far.
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The Obscura Den scan section is great fun because it's 50/50. If the scan location is inside the rooms on the left it's a cakewalk because you can easily manage the two doorways for enemies. If the scan location is on the right it's completely hosed because you're in the wide open and the composer loves to drop snipers and bombers on you.
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ChaseSP posted:VT2 is great and going back makes me miss the Ubersreik 5 and all the dialogue they have compared to the convict dialogue in Darktide. Also the handcrafted levels are way better. They're handcrafted in both at least.
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Apr 9, 2024 16:55
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Right but in darktide they don't feel like a connected world due to being designed via multiple blocks stitched together whose orientation can vary on the mission, rather than distinct locales for each mission in the earlier games.
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ChaseSP posted:Right but in darktide they don't feel like a connected world due to being designed via multiple blocks stitched together whose orientation can vary on the mission, rather than distinct locales for each mission in the earlier games. The way DT uses its interstitial map segments seems intended to increase the sense of a connected world, not lessen it. Most of the time you cross through snippets of other levels on the way to the unique mission objective. Other times you can see setpieces of other maps off in the distance, but it’s totally cordoned off. If that wasn’t an intentional design choice they could have just cut the lighting for the background and made it totally unrecognizable. What percent of the maps would you reckon are reused? Because it seems like a small minority in most cases. In the Hab Dreyko map for example it’s just the initial highway you use before entering the Hab itself, so maybe 10-15% of the map. On the train Consignment Yard map you pass through the mid-mission event rooms of the other two Metalfab maps, so another 15% example. The most egregious is probably the Throneside missions, where you’re crossing the bridge in both cases which encompasses probably 25-30%, but those are the outlier. Not to single you out specifically, but it just seems weird that this part of the game has been repeatedly criticized since release. Darktide’s maps are not at all lacking in detail or variety. The fact that Helldivers has essentially one map (a total dealbreaker IMO, at least for long-term replayability) and that game is considered a darling by the community is utterly baffling.
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whatever the percentage of maps that are just mario kart mirror mode versions of other maps, at the end of the day darktide’s levels feel abstract and indistinct compared to vermintide’s so a bunch of them blur together mentally into “series of dark rooms,” you don’t need to overthink what amounts to “previous game clearly did thing better” Helldivers does not have one map, that’s both a disingenuous statement because HD has an open freeform structure with random generation rather than curated linear levels like DT, and just wrong because different mission types inherently have different layouts to say nothing of the planet terrain differences
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Apr 9, 2024 18:06
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Not to mention pretty much every new map released in DT has had a bunch of handcrafted set pieces and areas. Pretty much since Ascension Riser and Archivum Sycirax kicking off the awesome map trend, the new maps have all been bangers and really cool. I get it when people ask for an entirely different locale like a jungle or more verdant outdoor area, but kept within the theme of a hive city the maps have had a ton of variety. edit: ^^ I disagree that it's all a series of dark connected rooms and that's also an equally disingenuous statement to make of DT's map design. If you make a statement like that it's kind of hard to argue that HD2 isnt basically just a randomly generated open world with different textures, with certain missions having the same map every time. They aren't really fair games to compare anyways aside from the fact they're both 4 player co-op, it's a completely different design ethos Evil Kit fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Apr 9, 2024 |
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I don't mind going through some of the same areas from different directions or even seeing it from a skybridge as you cross because it gives a sense of scale and that you're actually fighting for the hive city rather than isolated locations. I like a bunch of the set piece areas that missions have but they could do with a few more inbetween rather than the finale. I think a large part of the map design is also built around the idea of some randomly generated segments like the chaos wastes. The airlocks are clearly for dumping memory on consoles but they can also double as a place where you can exit into any locale or location they have on file.
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Just give me some new guns I need a heavy bolter
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So pox gas is gonna work kinda like in the twins mission, where the ankle-deep stuff is fine and then it rises.
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"the hive city is dynamic" ok
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hell yeah we're finally getting Sefoni on comms for a mission. Who on the Mourningstar actually let a psyker on comms? Who knows? Also more completely legitimate businessman Krall paired with her sounds like an odd pairing. The tox bomber sounds interesting, as does the new pox gas modifier, especially since it's going to be for specific maps and Fatshark put some effort into it (the modifier not the bomber). That + new penance stuff is gonna be fun!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnyIdRfgdmo Update trailer drop.
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And it's scheduled to come out tomorrow! 
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Holy poo poo that's faster than I thought.
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I was ready to be excited, but let me tell you a trailer for new penances and a set of skins is pretty hilarious. And a new dude who throws new bombs, I'll give them that.
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I am prepared to huff fart gas for the emperor
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Homeless Friend posted:I am prepared to huff fart gas for the emperor What do you think has been in the medkits the whole time?
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It's live. Patch notes here: https://www.playdarktide.com/news/path-of-redemption-live-now Worth reading. A bunch of little tweaks, and some info about the puzzles, and changed up the final scanning/fight section in Hab Dreyko. Edit: and FINALLY, some of the mission types were changed so there are now multiple investigation and repair missions. quote:- Excise Vault Spireside-13 changed from Raid to Investigation. Arc Light fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Apr 16, 2024 |
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Internet Explorer posted:I was ready to be excited, but let me tell you a trailer for new penances and a set of skins is pretty hilarious. And a new dude who throws new bombs, I'll give them that. Who is ready for the nerfs? quote:‘Feel No Pain’ quote:Veteran Everyone's ammo with a veteran on the team is going to be absolutely gutted by that change and poxhounds is no longer a ammo refill modifier. quote:Increased stagger threshold for Crushers, Bulwarks, Plague Ogryns and Chaos Spawns. quote:Made Scab/Dreg Ragers combo attacks dodgeable, reduced stun from attacks quote:Bulwarks And something major hidden way, way down at the bottom of other fixes: quote:Removed player stuns from normal enemy ranged hits and Toughness break.
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Hab Dreyko has a different finale instead of scanning. Habs have less clutter in them as well, and the "gently caress you" Daemonhost spawn after the second airlock was moved to give a little room to maneuver.
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Oh man, that's one hell of a Scavenger nerf. Probably warranted since the gameplay impact that one aura had was immense on Auric missions. There are going to be some unhappy Gunluggers out there though
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Magitek posted:Oh man, that's one hell of a Scavenger nerf. Probably warranted since the gameplay impact that one aura had was immense on Auric missions. There are going to be some unhappy Gunluggers out there though It stinks, imo!
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Fyi, you can speed up the process of accepting the penance rewards by swapping to the Penances tab and just clicking on the shiny tagged icons vs. clicking on everything one at a time from the Highlights screen.
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I'm sure it's just people coming back from long absences to check out the update but the pubstove feels *meek as poo poo* right now. I need a voice bind that says "press forward, you dumb assholes!"
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Anyone understand what you're supposed to do in the new Hab Dreyko minigame? I get that one of the dots goes white but then I had no idea what to do after the first one, didn't seem like activating the other dots did anything, but maybe I missed the correct one.
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holy crap I have so many rewards to go through lol
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Diephoon posted:Anyone understand what you're supposed to do in the new Hab Dreyko minigame? I get that one of the dots goes white but then I had no idea what to do after the first one, didn't seem like activating the other dots did anything, but maybe I missed the correct one. It's one of those "hit these in the right order" puzzles. So if the dot is red, you picked wrong. If it's green, you picked right. Figure out the order to chain all 5 green.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:It's one of those "hit these in the right order" puzzles. So if the dot is red, you picked wrong. If it's green, you picked right. Figure out the order to chain all 5 green. Not exactly selling it I played an auric damnation run with the gas hazard. Man, what a great way to stop the momentum of a run is to have everyone sit and wait until the gas subsides
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ninjoatse.cx posted:Not exactly selling it There should be an alternate path wherever the gas blocks. The devs have said they specifically chose those locations for the gas.
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the new update is great. The new penances are all not too bad, the old penances that got updated save me a bunch of time and effort AND the new puzzles to find are actually neat little things to do. The Hab Dreyko finale is even more fun now too!
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Did they gently caress the FNP shield ogryn
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I'm at work and can't get to my PC to check the stats, but unless I misread it from a quick glance earlier, the loyalist 6th armor sets require 4,500 penance points, as the final reward on the penance scale. I wonder if it would require a player to complete every single penance in the game to get to that level, or if there's a little wiggle room. They look cool and power to anyone who earns them, but I know I don't have enough free time (or skill/luck) to knock out every single penance
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ZeusCannon posted:Did they gently caress the FNP shield ogryn I haven't tested it yet but it seems like a reasonable nerf, FNP was pretty braindead of a carry combo'd with the heavy attack toughness regen stuff. More dyanamic and requires actively managing with pushes instead of unga bunga tee hee crusher tickled me
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