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Declan MacManus posted:i think saying bama looks like rear end is overstating it a bit; they lost two games against the number 5 and number 6 teams by a combined 4 points They're also one competent playcall from a loss to A&M so its not like they've been typical Bama
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fast cars loose anus posted:They're also one competent playcall from a loss to A&M so its not like they've been typical Bama They're a lot of help from the refs away from a loss to Texas too. Relatively a very poor year for Bama, but god would I love to have their poor year.
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I. M. Gei posted:We are probably gonna drop at least one of our last two games, and I feel like a lot of the good will Sark built up over the first half of the season is gonna evaporate if that happens. Especially if Bama and OU continue to look like rear end. Yeah, I think a lot of where Sark stands will depend on the results of the last 2 games + bowl. Big difference between 8-4, 7-5, and (gulp) 6-6 in year 2. There's plenty of evidence to make a case that the team is headed in the right direction overall -- players are actually showing development all over the roster, nobody seems to be quitting on the field like they did last year, a bunch of freshmen are playing, which helps excuse/explain inconsistency, recruiting is good, etc. -- but at some point you have to win some games. At this point, it seems like Sark the program manager is way outperforming Sark the gameday coach and Sark the playcaller, which is funny given his reputation as offensive mastermind staggering genius savant. Or maybe it's just that Quinn Ewers is not that good. Or just a freshman learning on the job. (Or both?) I saw a funny comparison that draws out how Ewers has really been struggling late in the season: Casey Thompson (2021): 261 passes for 2,113 yards - 8.1 ypa, 24 TD/9 INT Quinn Ewers (2022): 212 passes for 1,507 yards - 7.1 ypa, 13 TD/6 INT
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LSU is going to beat Georgia by one point and the top 4 sec teams will all go
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It's the most a playoff can mean
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Maybe it's my new av talking, but I think Brian Kelly sneaking an SEC championship is the worst timeline and I hope it doesn't happen.
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UVA cancelled their impending loss to Coastal Carolina and have not made a decision yet on Virginia Tech.
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I feel like I can’t really rally against Tennessee getting a spot after we lost to Alabama and got ours last year. I don’t think it would change things just I feel like a conference champion should get the nod.
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I see the logic in letting a team with better wins over a conference champion, if the champion in question won in a comparatively lovely conference with a much lower strength of schedule. I say this as a Tennessee fan who genuinely doesn't know poo poo about college football conferences outside of God's own conference, the SEC.
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If LSU wins the championship they should absolutely get in over us, I do not believe that a team that didn’t even win its own division should get in over a team that won its conference. Even though we did beat them they have an extra game over us and oh yeah it’s the championship beating the #1 team.
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I mean a conference champion from a different conference Like, I mean Tennessee should get in over, say, USC even if USC wins the PAC 12
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Nov 16, 2022 15:38
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LSU gives up, like, 10 sacks a game and will have to face Jalen Carter compiling tape for the NFL Draft. We needn't worry about this hypothetical.
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It will be interesting to see the the committee justify putting LSU into the playoff after denying the same to Penn State in 2016. They had made it absolutely clear they were not going to put a 2 lost team into the playoff. Penn State lost a close one to Pitt early in the season, like LSU did to a comparable FSU. LSU got blown out by Tennessee at home and Penn State got blown out by Michigan on the road. edit: I do think the reason that LSU is ranked ahead of USC right now is because the committee will put LSU into the playoff if they upset Georgia, and Georgia (if 12-1) will also go to the playoffs. Komet fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Nov 16, 2022 |
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Soul Glo posted:I mean a conference champion from a different conference As a Tennessee fan the only 1 loss team I can see making it in over us is a PAC-10 champion USC and I can understand why. So if either TCU or USC drops a game Tennessee is in, but if they go undefeated the rest of the way we are out (USC will jump Tennessee after their championship game). Of course that thought is based on UGA and us both winning out. nate fisher fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Nov 16, 2022 |
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If Georgia and Tennessee win out and USC and TCU both lose, then we're going to see a two Big Ten two SEC playoff. This is suboptimal from a spectator perspective, but I would hope they don't put the rematches in the first round. Georgia vs. Michigan Ohio State vs. Tennessee Then there's a solid chance there won't be a rematch for the championship. Selfishly, I'd love this scenario because it means that Penn State will draw Oregon or USC in the Rose Bowl.
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Playoffs goes to 12 teams next year, right? That'll be fun, and less hosed up for teams winning champs but missing out.
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Probably not before 2024. https://twitter.com/ESPNRittenberg/status/1565777951022616577
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D.N. Nation posted:LSU gives up, like, 10 sacks a game and will have to face Jalen Carter compiling tape for the NFL Draft. We needn't worry about this hypothetical. Georgia is 88th in the country in sacks.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Georgia is 88th in the country in sacks. They'll move up after this weekend
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PostNouveau posted:I think TCU could drop one and still make it, as long as it's not the Big 12 title game. No divisions in the PAC anymore btw, USC could end up playing UCLA twice.
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dphi posted:No divisions in the PAC anymore btw, USC could end up playing UCLA twice. Oh! Interesting
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Georgia is 88th in the country in sacks. UGA sacked Hendon Hooker 6 times, they can do it when they choose to.
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Counterpoint: gently caress Brian Kelly.
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Komet posted:Probably not before 2024. Other than stadium contracts I'm not really seeing how or why this is so hard.
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soggybagel posted:Other than stadium contracts I'm not really seeing how or why this is so hard. It’s the TV contracts
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soggybagel posted:Other than stadium contracts I'm not really seeing how or why this is so hard. There's a broadcasting thing going on here isn't there? Like they might want to delay to let the current contracts run out so they can re-negotiate for a whole lot more money on the promise of a 12 game playoff and not be locked in to the current stuff before that happens was my understanding. e:fb
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D.N. Nation posted:UGA sacked Hendon Hooker 6 times, they can do it when they choose to. They jumped out to an early lead and got to tee off on Hooker on obvious passing downs. 5 of those 6 sacks came in the second half when Tennessee was already down three scores, and 3 of the 6 came in the fourth quarter when Georgia had a three TD lead. Georgia has a great defense but the pass rush isn’t a relative strength and the teams LSU played recently have been consistently better than Georgia at getting after the QB. I still expect LSU to lose but that’s because Georgia is just a better team at most positions. Pass rush is probably the one place LSU is better.
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I did a dirty shrimp poll but held off a couple days with the UVA thing. Ended up real close to the real CFP, except those cowards refuse to acknowledge South Alabama. USA  pre:Delta Team Record Score Conference Rankings - 1. Ohio State 10-0 4.7833 1. SEC 0.9549 - 2. Georgia 10-0 4.4940 2. Big 12 0.9340 - 3. TCU 10-0 4.4395 3. Big 10 0.7415 +1 4. Tennessee 9-1 4.0304 4. ACC 0.6584 -1 5. Michigan 10-0 4.0173 5. Pac 12 0.6328 +1 6. USC 9-1 3.6439 6. Sun Belt -0.2955 +3 7. Clemson 9-1 3.3746 7. American -0.4945 +1 8. Utah 8-2 3.2553 8. Conf USA -0.9538 +3 9. LSU 8-2 3.0303 9. MAC -1.1872 -4 10. Oregon 8-2 2.9626 10. Mtn West -1.2305 +7 11. Kansas State 7-3 2.6799 +4 12. Penn State 8-2 2.6721 +7 13. Washington 8-2 2.5987 +1 14. North Carolina 9-1 2.5946 +6 15. Alabama 8-2 2.5390 -8 16. UCLA 8-2 2.5347 +7 17. UCF 8-2 2.4087 +5 18. Florida State 7-3 2.4073 -6 19. Ole Miss 8-2 2.3445 -9 20. NC State 7-3 2.2387 -7 21. Illinois 7-3 2.1060 +3 22. South Alabama 8-2 1.9238 +5 23. Notre Dame 7-3 1.9128 +5 24. Coastal Carolina 9-1 1.8602 +2 25. Cincinnati 8-2 1.8506 -1 122. Temple 3-7 -2.7100 - 123. Colorado 1-9 -2.9664 - 124. South Florida 1-9 -3.0449 +1 125. Northwestern 1-9 -3.4353 +1 126. Colorado State 2-8 -3.4385 +1 127. Nevada 2-8 -3.4625 -3 128. Hawaii 2-9 -3.4812 - 129. Massachusetts 1-9 -3.6158 - 130. Akron 1-9 -3.7359 - 131. Charlotte 2-9 -4.4139 pre:Delta Team Rec Score +5 26. Minnesota 7-3 1.8424 +3 27. Troy 8-2 1.8319 +8 28. Florida 6-4 1.8158 -12 29. Tulane 8-2 1.7378 -11 30. Louisville 6-4 1.7248 +9 31. Oregon State 7-3 1.7088 +1 32. Duke 7-3 1.6472 +10 33. Oklahoma State 7-3 1.5738 -12 34. Syracuse 6-4 1.5128 +10 35. UTSA 8-2 1.4217 -4 36. Texas 6-4 1.3797 -11 37. Kansas 6-4 1.3557 +8 38. Iowa 6-4 1.3297 +9 39. Marshall 6-4 1.1545 +15 40. Purdue 6-4 1.1386 -7 41. Baylor 6-4 1.0471 -4 42. Mississippi State 6-4 0.9803 +6 43. Washington State 6-4 0.9792 +15 44. Western Kentucky 7-4 0.9642 -7 45. Pittsburgh 6-4 0.9388 -12 46. Wake Forest 6-4 0.9338 +8 47. Liberty 8-2 0.9156 -12 48. James Madison 6-3 0.9103 -6 49. Wisconsin 5-5 0.8702 -6 50. East Carolina 6-4 0.8670 Delta Team Rec Score +9 51. Air Force 7-3 0.8486 -10 52. Maryland 6-4 0.7803 +10 53. Ohio U 7-3 0.7702 -13 54. Kentucky 6-4 0.7470 +9 55. Boise State 7-3 0.6789 +5 56. SMU 6-4 0.5949 -7 57. Oklahoma 5-5 0.4995 +13 58. Toledo 7-3 0.4447 +9 59. Texas Tech 5-5 0.4316 -13 60. San Jose State 6-3 0.4118 +4 61. Michigan State 5-5 0.3923 -5 62. BYU 5-5 0.3584 -12 63. Appalachian State 5-5 0.3275 +3 64. Fresno State 6-4 0.2699 +1 65. Wyoming 7-3 0.2333 -8 66. Arkansas 5-5 0.1859 -15 67. South Carolina 6-4 0.1324 +8 68. San Diego State 6-4 0.1126 -16 69. Georgia Tech 4-6 0.0759 +3 70. Connecticut 6-5 -0.0394 +10 71. Louisiana 5-5 -0.0902 +12 72. Miami (FL) 5-5 -0.1601 -11 73. Iowa State 4-6 -0.2404 +1 74. Houston 6-4 -0.3377 +18 75. Arizona 4-6 -0.3920 Delta Team Rec Score +19 76. UAB 5-5 -0.4383 +12 77. Florida Atlantic 5-5 -0.4426 +7 78. Vanderbilt 4-6 -0.5010 -10 79. Memphis 5-5 -0.5437 -12 80. Georgia Southern 5-5 -0.5918 +12 81. Missouri 4-6 -0.6018 -11 82. Kent State 4-6 -0.6199 -7 83. California 3-7 -0.6324 -11 84. Rutgers 4-6 -0.6811 -7 85. North Texas 6-5 -0.6953 +4 86. Southern Miss 5-5 -0.6979 +12 87. West Virginia 4-6 -0.7149 -2 88. Auburn 4-6 -0.8462 -12 89. Ball State 5-5 -0.8669 -11 90. Arizona State 3-7 -0.8809 +13 91. Buffalo 5-5 -0.9220 +5 92. Eastern Michigan 6-4 -0.9474 -11 93. Middle Tennessee 5-5 -1.0438 -7 94. Miami (OH) 4-6 -1.0702 +17 95. Texas A&M 3-7 -1.0916 +5 96. Boston College 3-7 -1.1699 -3 97. UNLV 4-6 -1.2742 +10 98. Rice 5-5 -1.3434 -3 99. Louisiana-Monroe 4-6 -1.3502 -16 100. Army 3-6 -1.3597 Delta Team Rec Score -20 101. Georgia State 4-6 -1.3768 -4 102. Bowling Green 5-5 -1.3885 -3 103. Indiana 3-7 -1.4702 -13 104. Stanford 3-7 -1.4956 +6 105. Virginia 3-7 -1.5518 -3 106. Arkansas State 3-7 -1.6150 -1 107. Texas State 3-7 -1.6224 +5 108. Nebraska 3-7 -1.6854 +8 109. Central Michigan 4-6 -1.6964 -8 110. Utah State 5-5 -1.7237 +7 111. Louisiana Tech 3-7 -1.7983 +7 112. Northern Illinois 3-7 -1.8694 -8 113. New Mexico State 4-5 -1.8787 -7 114. Old Dominion 3-7 -1.9566 -1 115. Florida Intl 4-6 -2.0100 -7 116. UTEP 4-6 -2.0383 -7 117. Tulsa 3-7 -2.0846 -3 118. Western Michigan 3-7 -2.1381 -3 119. Navy 3-7 -2.1661 +1 120. Virginia Tech 2-8 -2.3932 -1 121. New Mexico 2-8 -2.5609
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tactlessbastard posted:LSU nearly lost to an Arkansas team that did not elect to field an offense until the 4th quarter. They were looking past Arkansas to prepare for their last real threat of the regular season, UAB.
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Komet posted:If nothing else, at least Liberty lost so we don't have to stomach even the remote possibility of them going to the Cotton Bowl. That was never going to happen. They are an independent (till next year) and the G5 spot is for a conference champ. It's similar to why BYU was never really seriously in the running for a New Years spot when they have had good seasons.
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dirty shrimp money posted:I think people don't realize the resource disparity Liberty is going to have with the rest of Conference USA and that they could be players for that G5 playoff spot almost immediately. Oh for sure. It's going to be bad. They're just absolutely dumping money into that program.
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Grittybeard posted:There's a broadcasting thing going on here isn't there? Like they might want to delay to let the current contracts run out so they can re-negotiate for a whole lot more money on the promise of a 12 game playoff and not be locked in to the current stuff before that happens was my understanding. Oh for sure, but everyone stands to get way more money so a renegotiation doesn't seem like this impossible hurdle is all.
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soggybagel posted:Oh for sure, but everyone stands to get way more money so a renegotiation doesn't seem like this impossible hurdle is all. My understanding is vague, but I think the biggest point of contention currently is that ESPN would have right of first refusal for any additional playoff games created, whereas I think there’s some sentiment from the Big Ten and Pac-12 (who only have one foot in bed with ESPN and may soon not be partners with them at all) that they don’t want to expand before there’s an open market for the new games.
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UGA also hasn’t been doing traditional blitz plays as much as just trying to collapse the pocket and apply pressure by only rushing 3. Obviously a sack is great but the overall defense is working because we are still only allowing like 10.7 a game.
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