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Anything is better than lakeside loving mall, OP. Making it into a park will be way nicer than the massive parking lot it is now. As for arcologies, you can go to the Ren Cen. It's a difficult to navigate brutalist nightmare on the inside but if you wear a trench coat and fingerless gloves you can pretend you're Deckard for a few hours, maybe get some noodles.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Oh hey, that's the one Digimon Cyber Sleuth is all about. For American planners, this sort of urbanism is largely well regarded but reviled by residents living in single family homes built by the likes of Henry Ford. Older generations have systemically driven this kind of thing away and divested In regionalism leading to sprawl. Investors and developers will only create what they can bring to market and the US seems actively hostile towards apartment buildings other than in "downtown" areas. Eventually developers just move the gently caress on because it can take a decade to bring this kind of thing to fruition with all the approvals and such. Planners tend to like density and mixed use and creating less dependence on cars.
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olives black posted:The point is to not have other buildings. This sort of idea has been proposed before and while pretty good on paper when you get around to who actually implemented these philosophies its fascists all the way down. "One big building where everyone lives" inevitably becomes: "lets raze established minority neighbourhoods and give them massive towers volumetrically divided into the smallest habitable units and pat ourselves on the back for the modern, renewed, city we've created"
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Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:because arcologies are used as shorthand for "the future" in movies and sci fi and stuff and goons primarily understand the world through consumption of pop culture Corbusier rage quit Russia for not picking his castle design like a little babby. I would swirly his milhouse lookin' rear end.
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Squee posted:I grew up in Sterling Heights, and Lakeside Mall was a shithole back then that we only ever went to for the cheap $2 movie theater showing 6 month old movies, I can only imagine the state it is in now 20 years later. You would think a sprawling, culturally devoid suburban wasteland that's frozen half the year like SE Michigan would be capable of supporting some decent malls but most of them have failed catastrophically.
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naem posted:people need jobs to earn money to have money to spend The mall in question straddles the county with the highest median household income in the state at around 80k/yr. The county its actually in makes about 65k/yr. Now, malls typically undergo a slow death. Lakeside was in decline since the early 2000s and GFC definitely hurt. But SE Michigan is pock marked with failed malls or malls hanging on by a thread (looking at you Oakland). The only two viable ones are Somerset, which is crazy high end, and Great Lakes Crossing, which is an outlet mall. I think its really just a combo of online shopping, the failure of big box stores, and people hating the idea of "just walking around" as leisure. SE michigan is also horribly planned generally and there aren't any controls in place to prevent centres from competing each other out of business. Every other development is some big box strip mall.
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I remember going to a movie night for the planning and architecture school and we watched THX1138. The architect students: "wowe such arcology. underground city." Planners: "this is turbo fascism"
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