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Which player would you rather have on your team? Kelce turned 33 on Oct. 5. Gronk turned 33 on May 14. Career games played Gronk 143 Kelce 137 Receptions Kelce 773 Gronk 621 Receiving yards Kelce 9,861 Gronk 9,286 Receiving yards per game Kelce 72 Gronk 64.9 Yards per reception Gronk 15 Kelce 12.8 Receiving TDs Gronk 92 Kelce 68 Fumbles Gronk 5 Kelce 11 Super Bowl rings Gronk 4 Kelce 1
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Nov 21, 2022 13:35
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Here's a good point to consider that doesn't get highlighted in the stats: https://twitter.com/himmiesteer/status/1594551709971382272
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Nov 21, 2022 13:36
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Gronk stan... https://twitter.com/iam_johnw/status/1594548061681983488
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Nov 21, 2022 13:37
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Gronk and it's not even close
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Nov 21, 2022 13:42
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Best pure receiving TE probably Kelce, though Gronk had games he just dominated Full package TE (aka with blocking) Gronk all the way though
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Nov 21, 2022 13:43
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If next year both guys were available in the draft, but I had the knowledge of the players they’d develop into, I’m taking Gronk.
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Nov 21, 2022 13:44
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YkFnLizJUY
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Nov 21, 2022 13:48
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Kelce cause gently caress the Pats Also you don't need a TE who can block when you have Mahomes in the backfield. Maybe if Gronk wasn't blocking so much he could still be padding his stats against the rest of the AFC East instead of being broken down at 33
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Nov 21, 2022 13:49
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Nov 21, 2022 14:01
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Gronk was certainly better at manhandling people, but Kelce is just a wizard at finding a way to be open at crucial moments.
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Nov 21, 2022 14:03
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syzpid posted:Kelce cause gently caress the Pats why doesn't every team get a generational freak athlete qb bing bong so simple
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Nov 21, 2022 14:07
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I bet Kelce didn't party his rear end off after his superbowl loss Loser
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Nov 21, 2022 14:17
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Neither guy will surpass Tony Gonzalez in individual stats, so they're fighting for second place, at best.
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Nov 21, 2022 15:09
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To me Gronkowski was this perfect combination of an old school and new school TE that will be hard to ever come across.
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Nov 21, 2022 15:12
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1 mark andrews 2 todd heap 3 dennis pitta 4 gronk 5 waller and then kelce somewhere around there after
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Nov 21, 2022 15:45
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CocoaNuts posted:Here's a good point to consider that doesn't get highlighted in the stats: This is hilariously stupid and not true. Kelce is one of the better blocking TEs in the league and it's been proven a dozen times over. Get that Kittle fan BS out of here
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Nov 21, 2022 15:52
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This is almost as dumb as the Gronk or Graham debate of 2011-2014. It’s Gronk and it’s not close. Gronk could block as well as a dedicated right tackle. He routinely owned prime Suggs.
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Nov 21, 2022 15:54
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CocoaNuts posted:Which player would you rather have on your team? Trick question but Kelce since he is still playing. Kelce is better right now than Gronk is, so I'd rather have him on my team. Who had a better career is a different question. I'd say Gronk for sheer terror factor.
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Nov 21, 2022 16:01
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Gronk managed to be the more dangerous TE on the same depth chart as Aaron Hernandez
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Nov 21, 2022 16:03
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Did this count? It's cool, but it doesn't look like a catch to my layman's eyes.
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Nov 21, 2022 16:57
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sweet thursday posted:Gronk managed to be the more dangerous TE on the same depth chart as Aaron Hernandez 
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LargeHadron posted:Did this count? It's cool, but it doesn't look like a catch to my layman's eyes. It was ruled a catch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNWjxMNvyB0
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Obviously I’m biased but whatever. But comparing any other tight end to Gronk is just off the mark. Because he’s just a freak athletic specimen. The sensible contemporary comparison, and the debatable matchup of who was at the time the greatest non-QB offensive player in football, was between Gronk and Megatron.
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Nov 21, 2022 17:29
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this is like having a thread for larry fitzgerald vs randy moss
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Nov 21, 2022 17:35
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I agree, because clearly Randy was better.
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okay i guess this thread does need to exist if that's not extremely obvious and needs to be a point to make
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i'm so freakin pissed!!!!!!!!
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:I agree, because clearly Randy was better. Both scored the go ahead touchdown in the super bowl only for their defense to choke the game away in the final couple minutes. In consecutive years.
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https://twitter.com/VonMiller/status/644739762004336640
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I love Kelce and hate Gronk and the Patriots with an eternal burning passion. Its Gronk.
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I've never heard anything about Kelce's health, could he go for a while more? That'll change things if he really pulls away in volume stats. Gronk will still have it on peak, though
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I would love to see what peak Shannon Sharpe looks like in a modern offense.
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Nosre posted:I've never heard anything about Kelce's health, could he go for a while more? That'll change things if he really pulls away in volume stats. He’s been pretty healthy his whole career AFAIK. But at some point you lose a step at that position. It’s an imperfect comparison but for reference here’s the stats for Tony Gonzalez’s very famously lengthy career.  He was 37 in his final season there.
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I watched every play Tony Gonzalez had before going to the Falcons and he could never dominate a game like Kelce. He was Very Good for a long time. I don't think he's top three in TE
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Gronk didn't have the longevity, but he's the best "modern" tight end in NFL history IMO. Better than Witten, better than Gonzalez. No one was as big and strong and fast, no one had that catch radius or contested catch skill. No one else could block like that. CocoaNuts posted:Here's a good point to consider that doesn't get highlighted in the stats: That's a bit overboard- he's better than average among your high-volume receiving TEs- which means he's OK and going to get his rear end beat sometimes.
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Did Kelce ever gently caress up as badly as Gronk did here, though? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiz87A3RpEw&t=14s
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Pungry posted:Did Kelce ever gently caress up as badly as Gronk did here, though? I still cannot believe the defensive alignment the Pats put out for this play. They put out the hands team when there was absolutely zero chance the Dolphins were gonna throw a Hail Mary just from the basic physics of how far a human being can reliably throw a football. To reach the end zone that ball would need to travel about 75 air yards.
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Cavauro posted:this is like having a thread for larry fitzgerald vs randy moss So the #2 WR vs some guy who might be #4, but far away from the top 3?
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