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quote:“You wouldn't always know it ,but it went up every year I was president,” he said to applause. “That whole, suddenly America's like the biggest oil producer and the biggest gas that was me, people.”
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I wonder why the gop is always so hellbent on wrecking the postal service. old people love getting letters and pills and magazines and ballots in the mail. I get that abusing the commons is their party m.o. but that seems a little counter productive.... oh.... 
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Ash Crimson posted:*Guile voice* CHRONIC GOON
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bumping this because I finally unpacked my ornaments this year
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Punished Turtle posted:bumping this because I finally unpacked my ornaments this year finally someone is doing some actual loving unpacking in this thread!!! thank you
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Punished Turtle posted:bumping this because I finally unpacked my ornaments this year nice
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Punished Turtle posted:bumping this because I finally unpacked my ornaments this year what's in the lower right partition
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Cuttlefush posted:what's in the lower right partition this lil fella 
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lol imagine snitching for the fbi
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yellowcar posted:lol imagine snitching for the fbi it's basically just unpacking right wing online culture and communication on social media
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yellowcar posted:lol imagine snitching for the fbi haha yeah
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so when are we unpacking?
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As many know, Elon Musk purchased Twitter and as of late has opened the floodgates for right wing reactionaries who were previously banned to come flooding back into Twitter. This has been seen as a virtual "reprisal" of sorts, where the people who thought they were unjustly kicked off Twitter not only got to come back, but they are reveling in smug glee about leftists getting kicked off/driven out of Twitter. Not surprisingly the nonexistent moderation and cultural shift in demographics have seen some stark changes on Twitter. Whereas before I'd see some pretty intense back and forth in threads, it's shifted in the direction of Facebook in tone: There's far more echo chambers now than before. Now I totally get it didn't take Musk taking over Twitter for people to get rape threats, death threats, unsolicited dick pics, etc. But it has gotten even more ridiculously polarized than even before. And much like it's Facebook predecessor it seems to fall into the same disingenuous patterns. The "I'm not touching you!" discourse" - So one thing people praise SA for among online communities is the understanding that moderation has to have nuance to it. The description people gave to me about this is that even if you have 500 explicit rules for behavior people will deliberately skate around them and rules lawyer their way into trolling. So moderation has to look at intent, and since right wing reactionaries operate in bad faith the only way to really get rid of them is to cut through their bullshit. With the changes to Twitter, it has allowed the proliferation of immense numbers of bad faith posting, but paradoxically it seems like they wouldn't be very well equipped to fight back. You see this quite a bit with arguments about the Colorado Springs shooting in particular. They'll all but directly say that the victims had it coming, but when you call them out on it they'll start sea lioning about you needing to prove they posted something direct about it. Ditto for throwing the "groomer" phrase around. They'll mean it in a very specific way, and when you try to pin them down about it they'll dance away like a bunch of eye floaties in your vision. One thing I've also been observing here is what happens if you do the same thing right back at them. It turns out they are typically unaware of what is going on and get caught in a "loop" when that happens. The Internet Troll - Right wing social media discourse is by and large driven by trolling, particularly as of late. It's not so much about proving themselves right or coming up with productive solutions but instead "owning the libs". A lot of the toxic masculinity wrapped up in conservatism gets projected online. This manifests as a pattern where caring about others, empathy, vulnerability, uncertainty, etc are seen as weakness and attacked. Currently a common target has been people upset that Musk bought Twitter. These people get portrayed as weak cowards, unjustly protected by Twitter's previous administration and now fair game. I definitely saw this pattern play out early on in SA as well-simply caring about, well anything would get you mercilessly mocked. Strength was associated with both apathy and misanthropy. That said, I find conservatives themselves pretty quick to call others bots and trolls (similar to the NPC meme a while back). They can be surprisingly thin skinned as well. I noticed that being suitably annoying and persistent they can start whining that you are harassing them, and block/mute you. Pronouns in bio- This is another puzzling and annoying thing I saw happen over the past few years on Twitter. If a person has pronouns listed in their bio there's almost a race to see who can dismiss them for it. It's such a weak, played out dig at someone. Now mind you I'm not shocked at how cruel and crass people can be online but rather... Disappointed in how uncreative they are about it. How do they expect you to respond to this? The same way we respond to a skunk flipping it's tail up menacingly?
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new pbs documentary on the german american bund is premiering jan 23rd https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/nazi-town-usa/
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Unless posted:new pbs documentary on the german american bund is premiering jan 23rd Did they post on twitter?
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I'm curious what the terminal state of Twitter will be as it gets further and further radicalized. As time goes by it gets more right wing, more scammy, and more of an echo chamber. Where's the endpoint of this trajectory? I've been extremely fascinated by this transition.
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I think it's a you problem. My twitter feed is half people designated as terrorists by the USA. Like dudes leading Iraqi PMF groups. It is far and away the best mainstream social media platform for pro Palestinian and anti Zionism posting.
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Weka posted:I think it's a you problem. My twitter feed is half people designated as terrorists by the USA. Like dudes leading Iraqi PMF groups. You think so? I don't feel crazy to opine that Twitter was considerably better before Musk took over. A ton of left leaning Accts were either banned outright or left in disgust.
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Some may disagree, but I feel that mockery and ostracism had a more powerful impact on reactionaries than people give credit for. We can't always rely on deplatformimg people but I noted that reactionaries are notoriously thin skinned. There's a great poster, Grovelord Neato, who managed to get one of these chuds incredibly worked up rather effortlessly. I feel like the more people like him on Twitter the less power reactionaries have since they're always proverbially looking over their shoulder. Even today with their little echo chamber they'll still censor a lot of their slurs which indicates they are not 100% comfortable with ruling the discourse,
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Panfilo posted:You think so? I don't feel crazy to opine that Twitter was considerably better before Musk took over. A ton of left leaning Accts were either banned outright or left in disgust. When you say left leaning do you mean liberals? Perhaps you could give some concrete examples.
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Bump Really want to get to the bottom of this. Is there a rightward shift on Twitter? Who are these left leaning people leaving in droves?
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Weka posted:Bump america's been shifting rightward since the civil rights movement and the antiwar movement as collective punishment for some people thinking black people should have rights or that scorched earth imperialism is bad. it stands to reason that american things, like american social media, also shift rightward. facebook used to be less weird than it is, nextdoor didn't used to exist, if myspace were still a thing I'm sure it would be weirder too. there may also be a demographic thing were technology becomes more common place and more broadly accessible. hence old conservative people going online in ways they haven't before. along a similar line, gen-x has already hit its brain smoothing age range, millennials aren't far behind.
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While twitter may be American owned and Americans may be the single largest national demographic, only about 27% of twitter users are American, it is a global platform. Regardless, a rightward shift in the same people is not what is being proposed, rather that some left leaning fellows have left, willingly or not. I would like a specific example or two from OP.
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Panfilo posted:Some may disagree, but I feel that mockery and ostracism had a more powerful impact on reactionaries than people give credit for. We can't always rely on deplatformimg people but I noted that reactionaries are notoriously thin skinned. bro your brain is cooking, id recommend not going the website X.com moreover, free croup
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Weka posted:While twitter may be American owned and Americans may be the single largest national demographic, only about 27% of twitter users are American, it is a global platform. Chad Loder and Vishal Singh, to name a few. When Elon Musk took over many prominent alt right accounts basically sicced Musk on these antifascist journalists to get them banned in retaliation for their journalism. The other issue was the change to verification, which became a pay-to-play signal boost. A lot of formerly verified leftist accounts didn't want to pay Musk on principle but the alt right types that had been formerly banned were very enthusiastic about signing up. This created a knock on effect where leftist accounts were indirectly deplatformed as a result of this policy. And in spite of the updated ToS, it is rather unclear of just what will get a user banned on Twitter.
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 fkd up this guy left X, but that’s life in right wing hellworld
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Pretty sure it's a different Chad Loder. I was sad to see him go, he posted a lot about what was happening during the George Floyd protests and stuff. There's still a few folks like this still going strong on Twitter but they are few and far between.
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yellowcar posted:lol imagine snitching for the fbi I'm gonna snitch to the FBI that The Russians are in control of Occupy Democrats
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Panfilo posted:Pretty sure it's a different Chad Loder. yeah, that's his brother, skid
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just got reminded that Kennedy the mtv lady turned into a fox news talking head.
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