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Pack it up right wing online culture and communication on social mediailures
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how has no one done an unboxing video on youtube but its full of conservative commentators comments
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Feb 14, 2023 01:40
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https://youtu.be/37OWL7AzvHo
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Feb 14, 2023 01:46
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ziasquinn posted:hey op i read your thread and it was acceptable to read (well I skipped page 2 cause I figured it was just people saying "ok lol") The topic is fine, it's that OP and others are people who have driven themselves schizophrenic freaking out at random right wingers on twitter. So there is no point in earnest discussion. Ben Shapiro saying "trans people should be killed" is only a small portion of this entire right winged media/state apparatus that wants to subjugate anyone who isn't a straight white dude from this planet.
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Feb 14, 2023 16:13
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AnimeIsTrash posted:The topic is fine, it's that OP and others are people who have driven themselves schizophrenic freaking out at random right wingers on twitter. So there is no point in earnest discussion. It wants to subjugate most straight white dudes too.
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Feb 15, 2023 09:49
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AnimeIsTrash posted:The topic is fine, it's that OP and others are people who have driven themselves schizophrenic freaking out at random right wingers on twitter. So there is no point in earnest discussion. I don't think it wise to dismiss the small number of people saying the quiet part out loud. Understanding the mechanisms in which they launder these ideas is critical to preventing further harm. I think a nuanced discussion can be had about it here. There's a significant amount of right wing discourse that wants to paint their detractors as schizophrenic and paranoid. It intimidates leftists into either being silent or simply avoid the discussion altogether, which just cedes that space to the right.
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Feb 15, 2023 13:24
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Feb 15, 2023 22:35
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Y'all done unpacking??
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Panfilo posted:I don't think it wise to dismiss the small number of people saying the quiet part out loud. Understanding the mechanisms in which they launder these ideas is critical to preventing further harm. I think a nuanced discussion can be had about it here. lmao
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Feb 15, 2023 22:40
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who cares dude it's twitter
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Feb 15, 2023 22:40
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id suggest eating more roughage
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In addition to the stuff below, I think it's kind of dumb to just use the term "the right" in reference to people on the more right-wing side of the US culture war. All mainstream political positions in the US are right-wing. We're just manipulated by our media/culture into centering everything on a handful of social issues (because those are the only real difference between US political factions) - if you're against openly using slurs against LGBT people, you're "on the left" even if 95% of your political views are in full support of capitalism and US imperialism. edit: Also, this "let's analyze right-wing behavior" stuff is all a very thinly veiled excuse to pay attention to stuff that you think is entertaining. It's not just "enjoying making fun of dumb people online" - I'm doing politics and discourse! It's serious! At least the right-wingers acknowledge that they're just trying to "own the libs" instead of putting on this song and dance of "I'm analyzing the enemy's tweets so that I might better understand their ways..." BrutalistMcDonalds posted:there has also been this debate about "should leftists go on tucker carlson." the problem is that carlson wants leftists to go on there to attack AOC from the left, and within its own scope that leftist could be right. but that's not the reason why carlson is having such a leftist on his show, he wants to take her down "from the left" to help move the country in a reactionary direction. so what can seem like a left-wing course of action in form can be right-wing in essence. i don't think that means a leftist should never go on the show. there was one example where it worked well i think, which was christian smalls going on there to push the amazon union while brushing off carlson's attempts to bait him into doing what i just described -- that is he hijacked the platform and used it for his purposes instead of doing what carlson "wanted him to do," even though he could've gotten more attention if he just blasted AOC about it. his metrics of success were not the same as carlson's. IMO debating/arguing about this stuff is dumb in and of itself. It's just a bunch of navel-gazing about things that don't matter. It's completely irrelevant whether someone goes on Tucker Carlson. It isn't meaningfully changing anything, for better or for worse. BrutalistMcDonalds posted:in the past few weeks we've see this (not very popular, but well-meaning if contrarian) viewpoint among some liberals that "we should stay on twitter and fight." but the metrics of success on twitter are not necessarily the metrics of success the left in particular should consider to be the most important for their movement. and i think just dropping out of the game altogether is not particularly "radical" but being able to drop it demonstrates more political will and independence of mind and spirit than staying up all night posting because the war will be lost if you don't. that war just isn't our war. The correct way to engage with Twitter is for all your posting to just be making fun of tweets people post in SA threads IMO The actual answer is that this is the same as the stuff above - it simply doesn't matter at all, outside of whether it makes the person doing it happier (which it probably usually doesn't). If someone has fun yelling at conservatives online (and isn't just doing it because they're really mad), they may as well keep doing it. If they're not, they should stop doing the thing that is just making them mad and unhappy. Very simple! Ytlaya has issued a correction as of 23:35 on Feb 15, 2023 |
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Panfilo posted:I don't think it wise to dismiss the small number of people saying the quiet part out loud. Understanding the mechanisms in which they launder these ideas is critical to preventing further harm. I think a nuanced discussion can be had about it here. All this stuff applies to left liberals, perhaps even more. America's most progressive president openly threatened to then bombed a multi billion dollar piece of energy infrastructure and pointing this out will get you called a nazi conspiracy theorist.
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Panfilo posted:I don't think it wise to dismiss the small number of people saying the quiet part out loud. Understanding the mechanisms in which they launder these ideas is critical to preventing further harm. I think a nuanced discussion can be had about it here. bump
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There's also a lot to be said about how many of these right wing ideologues are failed artists. It seems to clash with a lot of other ideas they embrace. A lot of them don't value art as a whole-it's not tangible or productive enough for them, and more often than not a decadent form of degeneracy that can only exist in an umbrella of entitlement and privilege. Is it just sour grapes? It's kind of similar to the "what if Hitler was a successful artist" thought exercises in a way. And besides just high profile examples like Mike Rowe there's plenty of terminally online examples as well-James O'Keefe being a wannabe musical theater performer, and even this Catturd fella on Twitter was a mediocre buttrock musician before becoming a Divorced Man Internet Troll. Some people would argue that these folks would be chuds either way, since there's plenty of successful artists that are still chuds. But it's hard to tell what path people might take. Like I've said before, some people change their outlook when circumstances change, but others don't.
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chuds gotta watch out for the CHUDS!@
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Panfilo posted:A lot of them don't value art as a whole-it's not tangible or productive enough for them, and more often than not a decadent form of degeneracy that can only exist in an umbrella of entitlement and privilege. They're probably right.
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Weka posted:They're probably right.
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so what have we learned?
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croup coughfield posted:so what have we learned? i don't know, croup
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i thought JAQing off was a myth
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croup coughfield posted:so what have we learned? 
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solemnly, holding a candle, "bump"
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croup coughfield posted:so what have we learned? KitConstatine's retarded.
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CRAZY KNUCKLES FAN posted:KitConstatine's retarded. cant argue with it
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