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Guavanaut posted:Gandhi managed to play bread like a bowed instrument through developing his satyagraha methodology of nān violins. How long did you spend cooking this up?
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Barry Foster posted:Bupropion, that's a very rare one in the UK - I didn't even realise you can get it on the NHS (maybe you got it privately though?) Uh, bad news on the withdrawal effects. So itchy. So very very itchy.
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His Divine Shadow posted:Ugh, this morning. That's too warm indoors too, have to adjust my heating curve downwards or I'll go broke. Still it was nice to feel a warm floor for once. Microplastics posted:Gotta appreciate the symmetry in your heating Those -30C nights will get real expensive...
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mrpwase posted:Thought you lot might appreciate my Christmas cross stitch project Read that as "gently caress the halls and deck the tories". Message still works!
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Private to just mods, or actually people that know what they're doing? To mods. Someone with hardware access could read private messages fairly easily.
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Dec 19, 2022 23:24
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happyhippy posted:Maxi Jazz died. Here's hoping he doesn't enjoy what's to come because there's nothing to come. The bots are already hard at work, telling us he died from insomnia.
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Insomnia does cause stress which will eventually kill you. But by the same standard you could claim he died from not enuff love.
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Clarence posted:Innocence? Sanity? The will to carry on? You can just say "you have nothing to lose but your chains", this is a safe space for Marxists.
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Only Kindness posted:Block me, and move on, if you're going to be like this. There are good reasons for all of it, shown by the context of the rest of the post(s). What on earth is happening?
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OwlFancier posted:The idea that the left gives "brain dead advice" to men looking to understand how to interact with women is something i see repeated a lot and I don't think it's correct? Ever more young men are being alienated, any given spaces turn into a toxic cesspool as soon as this is mentioned, and those young men are perfect fuel for our problems. The left being unable to offer the alienated young men a workable path does result in things getting worse for everyone. And given my own experiences with TERFs, there's a lot of people who call themselves feminists who are just fundamentally bad people, and on the internet it's a crapshoot which kind you encounter.
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Dec 31, 2022 21:18
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OwlFancier posted:But, like, if all you want is a girl shaped object to put your penis in then you just can't have that. I think if people are starting from the assumption that the only interaction they can or should have with women is sexual or romantic then that's already not gonna work. You can be friends with women, you can socialise with them without a sex or romance component. This is you constructing a strawman.
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Dec 31, 2022 21:59
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OwlFancier posted:Women exist outside in reality, you can just make friends with them the same way you do anybody else... Alienated young men don’t tend to have healthy relationships with other men either. You seem to have a very distorted view of the social relationships between men, possibly due to a lack of experience. Honestly you’re perfectly demonstrating why this is such a huge problem for the left. You’re extending no sympathy to these men and blaming them for not doing something they don’t know how to do.
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Dec 31, 2022 22:18
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Dabir posted:Some people are lucky enough to be born into a situation where they're raised well and taught the right ways to behave. Many, I would guess many more, are not. Condemning those people because they didn't have guidance, or had wrong guidance, and didn't think to reject everything their entire history of socialisation told them and reinvent leftism from first principles, is... I don't think I can pick the appropriate word. Silly, for a start. Heartless. Strategically unwise. Tory.
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Dec 31, 2022 23:01
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It's just pure "I got lucky, so the people who didn't are moral failures". And with this poo poo being in every left space, is it any wonder these people end up resenting leftists? Leftists, scoring own goals through infighting and demands of moral purity. O tempora, o mores.
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Dec 31, 2022 23:04
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HopperUK posted:This conversation is very confusing to read. 'Treat women like human beings' should not be something that's up for debate and ejecting people who don't do that isn't self-defeating moral purity. I think there's a lot of crosstalk going on here and I don't think anyone is actually arguing with what other people are really saying because I can't follow what a lot of folk are trying to express at all. Pretty much all of us are dunking on OwlFancier because he assumes the people who end up turning incels are innately evil. That's what's going on.
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Dec 31, 2022 23:33
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OwlFancier posted:No, I think that if they find incel rhetoric appealing then they have already, at some point prior to that, adopted an ideal of how they should think of women and their relationships with them which is fundamentally incompatible with leftist/feminist/not being a shithead positions. And this is why we're dunking on you. They're alienated first, and that causes resentment, and the incel communities are very good at accepting people who are alienated and resentful. Far far better than any leftist spaces.
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You can draw enlightening parallels to the communists who don't do anything and turn out to be shitheads.
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Dec 31, 2022 23:37
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OwlFancier posted:Because they reinforce the alienation, because they take their lovely ideas and validate them. And in order to salvage the situation, the leftists need to have a way to accept the alienated and resentful people and correct their ideas before they fall into the internet's many radicalization holes. We've tried calling them bad people with unrealistic expectations and it's very much not working. I hear a lot of "but it isn't our responsibility" but the truth is it's what fuels the rapid growth in fascism.
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HopperUK posted:What does 'accepting resentful not-quite-incels' look like though? Especially while maintaining spaces that are safe for women? Banning ironic hatred of men would go a long way, things have gotten a lot 4chan in that regard. Painting your ideological opponents with a broad brush is very unhelpful, there are so many ways to fall toward resenting people these days. See also: Capitalism and social status. Discussing the issues instead of dismissing people's problems as not real - especially if the people are privileged - is probably a good play. And if you think the spaces where these discussions are happening are safe for women under the status quo, uh... endlessmonotony fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Dec 31, 2022 |
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Tesseraction posted:genuinely one of the greatest images in British history It's genuinely how I describe Britain to people not quite up to date. Then I add "imagine hating the foreign people you hire to do your unpleasant jobs so much you destroy your own economy just to keep them away without hiring to the local poor".
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There's a concluding argument to be had here, so I might as well get it out this year (your timezone). Patriarchy hurts everyone, and boy it's no picnic to the disadvantaged men vulnerable to the alt-right either. They do have very real problems, generally not ones helped by hating women, but the problem is that resenting not getting laid gets read as resenting women all the time, and the advice people give is loving worthless. Society at large has really hosed up views about how you're supposed to deal with sexual relationships and this isn't anywhere close to being a problem exclusive to the right wing. And leftist spaces are very full of the idea you're not allowed to feel anything about it, and that you need to better yourself in ways that are completely loving incomprehensible when you try to translate them into action. And then there's the treatment men abused by women get. That's always been real poo poo and it's been getting worse lately. Yes, men abusing women is far more common. That's a cold comfort for the men in that situation. More and more I see bringing up these concerns shut down as whataboutism, and that's the dumbest part of it all. You can - should - work on all of these problems at the same time, because they feed into each other and any way to slow down the doom spiral society's in will also help fighting with every other problem present. This is why I get flashbacks from trying to discuss society with hardline communists. If everyone switched over to the better way of doing things at once, then we'd all be fine, but that's not going to happen so we need to at least acknowledge the path there is difficult. Are the salvageable men the ringleaders? No. Most of this problem is privileged failsons. But they are very much a part of the problem, and better, they're far easier to influence. Sexuality and the need for belonging are both extremely common aspects of the human experience. If someone can't find a place that will accept them other than the alt-right, you've lost them to the alt-right. Quite a few of them resent society's gender roles and capitalism far more than they resent women.
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The observation that painting men as a danger to women is used to attack black men and trans women is very important - and the answer of "just don't do that, find some other tack" is also a good one.
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sebzilla posted:Happy New Year, death to all Tories and victory to the Unions in 2023 There's one particular union I'm not too fond of.
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Mega Comrade posted:Yes 111 is flawed and far to often sends people to A&E. But thats an issue with that service. I don't think changing a service intended for emergencies to be an 'everything' service is appropriate. If you have a way to reliably separate the people having an actual emergency from those who are not without testing equipment and someone competent to operate it, you can grab an easy Nobel Prize for it.
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Jan 11, 2023 20:16
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Mega Comrade posted:You can't. But you can encourage people to use their own decision making skills to decide. Your idea of common sense lacks sense. That is exactly why you need emergency services capable of filtering.
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Mega Comrade posted:And we do, 111 and 999 both do those things. I don't understand the point you're trying to make. It's that you don't actually have a point. The problem in the system is it's underfunded. People calling in to ask questions means they get redirected to people who can make that assessment, meaning there's nothing wrong with 111 as it is, and the calls to 999 are also almost always appropriate. All the changes you could make without spending more money on hiring more people would just make the situation worse. Common sense is usually useless. That's just common sense.
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Mostly just the bit about actual emergencies and self-assessing how serious the situation is. People can't loving do that. As it is, 111 isn't a flawed service. It's doing exactly what it's supposed to. Discouraging people from calling the services will result in needless death.
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Rappaport posted:We already fought one war, aren't you people ever done We won't ever stop fighting!
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Interestingly, I put that new Finnish word into google translate (but typing ae instead of a with an umlaut as I was too lazy to figure out how to do umlauts on my keyboard and it 'detected language' as Hindi! Google has slowly and steadily declined into complete incoherent nonsense when it comes to anything at all in Finnish. It's genuinely unusable these days. Kalsarikännit is from "kalsarit" for underwear - long johns, generally - and "känni" which just means drunkenness.
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His Divine Shadow posted:My colleague thinks it's gotten really good at finnish. He's a fluent finnish speaker but it's not his native language (russian). He uses it for bulk translating stuff, then he goes through and rewrites it until it sounds good. It's a big labour saver that way. I do the same when I translate stuff into english. Bulk of it sounds fine, certain stuff and idioms don't translate. It's still less work than writing everything by hand again. That's with understanding both languages enough to know when it goes wrong, though. Some phrases just get completely mangled in the translation process, even when I don't deliberately befuddle it. It has a real bad habit of correcting things into wrong phrases it thinks are more common. As the output gets more natural, the input comprehension plummets, as the AI makes guesses to fill in the bits it doesn't know how to interpret. Meanwhile the Finnish database clearly suffers from the same problem, and it fills in nonsense data, especially for maps, though also for search results and video. The entire system is too certain it sees something it recognizes and then goes on its own fantastical nonsense journey based on what can be described as a gut feeling, completely unaware it doesn't have the information to accurately interpret what it sees. It's like they made a synthetic Guardian journalist.
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Mega Comrade posted:Compared to who? I've heard from foreigners multiple times about how pessimistic British people are in general. "The British are the best you can be, so anyone thinking it can be done better is a foreign."
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Tesseraction posted:Jesus, that sounds like a real nightmare. I'd not even heard of trigeminal neuralgia and now I'm acutely aware of another way the body can say "gently caress you." Trigeminal nerve pain that can neither be cured nor medicated is a large part of why I have the attitude I do.
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fuctifino posted:Have you tried Immune. I've been through A Lot of doctors. As you might imagine I'm motivated to. I can handle a little amitriptyline and that's about it. Cold helps though.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:no offence. but its grey and miserable turn on you are monitor
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I heavily suspect it's the left being held to a higher standard, just coming across in a really agressive way. Accusing people on the left of not helping enough, when there are far more people on the centre ignoring them completely, and people on the right trying to actively strip them of rights or kill them. Starmer is a perfectly normal Tory.
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The Wicked ZOGA posted:If there are no emf waves why can I see stuff How can light be real if our eyes aren't real?
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Feel like this is going to get ugly: Don't do this, revealing the spoiler can click the link. Use the NSFW and NMS smilies.
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MeinPanzer posted:I’m Canadian and yeah it’s always bothered me because it obviously makes no sense. I just thought I’d heard Brits make the same mistake as well. It's not a mistake at all, it's just how language works.
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MeinPanzer posted:It’s a commonly used mistake. It's not a mistake at all, it makes perfect sense in context, and you not seeing the context is your problem.
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