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Demon Of The Fall posted:arthur smith wanted Mariota to be his QB, so how smart is he actually? Smarter than the guys that traded for Wentz or Wilson.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Big Coach Vrabes said as long as he was coach of Titans, AJ would not be traded… Don't pay close attention to the Titans but firing a GM reads like drama I would've known about regardless. MoaM fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Dec 6, 2022 |
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Since Jon Robinson was hired the titans have had one incredible draft in 2019 surrounded by a lotjof really bad drafts and bad trades. This is gonna be a very desirable job.
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I don't know how desirable it'll be, considering it seems like this is Vrabel consolidating power, meaning you might just end up as a glorified cap guy. And even if you still have the same level of control Robinson had the owner seemingly has pretty high standards if she's firing a guy midseason when they're a year removed from being the 1 seed and currently on track to win the division.
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Dec 6, 2022 19:55
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You have the reigning coach of the year already signed to a long term deal, an established number one at qb with a raw but promising rookie in the wings, and the people looking for GM jobs think their poo poo doesn’t stink. I think if there was something to make you hesitate it’s gotta be the cap situation but a lot of money can be off the books with cuts. They have to sign Simmons but after that there’s a lot of margin for some interesting moves going forward, imo.
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ShakeZula posted:I don't know how desirable it'll be, considering it seems like this is Vrabel consolidating power, meaning you might just end up as a glorified cap guy. And even if you still have the same level of control Robinson had the owner seemingly has pretty high standards if she's firing a guy midseason when they're a year removed from being the 1 seed and currently on track to win the division. Just because the team parted ways with the dude doesn't mean Vrabel is turning into Pol Pot.
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there's maybe one coach per cycle who can afford to turn down a bad job, everyone else happily takes whatever they can get. there's only 5-8 HC/GM openings per year. no potential GM candidate is going to say "no thanks I don't want to be attached to a franchise with a successful coach"
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Relentlessboredomm posted:he wanted mariota in the context of the smoking ruin that is atlanta's roster while looking at the desolate wasteland of available qbs. they very clearly are tearing the team down to the studs and building it back up. in spite of that they've been pretty competitive and looked decent for a bit. unfortunately everyone has figured out mariota and the poo poo falcons defense so they're struggling to win close games PS our cap situation was hot garbo.
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mostly joking about Smith and Mariota, I would take Arthur back in a heartbeat having seen this Todd Downing offense
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https://twitter.com/CBSSportsGang/status/1600203180876259330 rams-broncos on christmas is getting a nickelodeon feed
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those kids are going to love seeing that touch down though.
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indigi posted:there's maybe one coach per cycle who can afford to turn down a bad job, everyone else happily takes whatever they can get. there's only 5-8 HC/GM openings per year. no potential GM candidate is going to say "no thanks I don't want to be attached to a franchise with a successful coach" George Paton notoriously turned down every interview and offer for like 5 years before taking the Broncos job and immediately lighting the franchise on fire.
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uhhh the new ATN podcast just blew my mind. The clock doesn't stop when you go out of bounds until there is less than 5 min left?! I had ZERO idea.
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Also lol at this entire OBJ dog and pony show. https://twitter.com/DavidMooreDMN/status/1600204244337860609
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bows1 posted:uhhh the new ATN podcast just blew my mind. The clock doesn't stop when you go out of bounds until there is less than 5 min left?! I had ZERO idea. Yup, section 3, article 2, quote:
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Jon Robinson oversaw a team that made the playoffs 4 times in 6 (and will again this year) seasons and never had a losing record I don't care how many times they made the playoffs. They are the 90s Chiefs. Nobody ever thought they would win poo poo and then they didn't. You can win a lot of regular season games that way but pain is coming in the playoffs. Trust me I lived it
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Relentlessboredomm posted:he wanted mariota in the context of the smoking ruin that is atlanta's roster while looking at the desolate wasteland of available qbs. they very clearly are tearing the team down to the studs and building it back up. in spite of that they've been pretty competitive and looked decent for a bit. unfortunately everyone has figured out mariota and the poo poo falcons defense so they're struggling to win close games I mean, this is tradition at this point. bows1 posted:uhhh the new ATN podcast just blew my mind. The clock doesn't stop when you go out of bounds until there is less than 5 min left?! I had ZERO idea. Yeah it's likely a TV rule change from way back in the day, TV doesn't want games to last for four hours and the NFL wants to keep those contracts flowing. Although I thought it was supposed to stop until the ball was placed (which takes like 2-5 seconds) and then restart, maybe they changed that too along the way.
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Vertical Lime posted:https://twitter.com/CBSSportsGang/status/1600203180876259330 Broncos Country Let's Slime
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Get my son a good OC and a speedy WR https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1600186055281582080
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Just because the team parted ways with the dude doesn't mean Vrabel is turning into Pol Pot. Who said anything about turning into Pol Pot? All indications are that this was a power struggle that Vrabel won, generally the result of that is increased control over the team for the winner. I don't think it's crazy to think that a potential GM candidate might look at the fact that the coach just ousted the last guy and maybe view it as a less-desirable situation to walk into. A bad job overall? Probably not, but for a hot candidate it might be a dealbreaker.
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If anything Vrabel would be a cardinal Richelieu
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Who was an enlightened dictactor? Ehh, Alexander the Great?
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Who was an enlightened dictactor? Ehh, Alexander the Great? On the other hand basically this: https://twitter.com/billbarnwell/status/1600187732994686976 Something or other is going on there that is weird, whatever it was. It's not like you need to get out in front of the potential GM market or they can do much damage after the trade deadline unless he was negotiating some super weird contracts in season. e: Beaten by your edit, but yeah, I don't think it's just reporter speculation that there's odd things going on in some fashion.
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Grittybeard posted:On the other hand basically this: I always thought it was strange that teams wait until the offseason to fire their GMs - right when a front office is going to be gearing up to go full steam. I forget what former GM said it, but basically this time of year is when there's almost nothing for a team's GM to do. The trade deadline is long gone, there's hardly any free agents or practice squad bodies left who are worth investigating. The roster is essentially set in stone. If anything firing in December makes more sense.
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It's my right to believe "owner threw a hissy fit after watching team get gashed by a player they traded away", and nothing will ever dissuade me
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tinstaach posted:It's my right to believe "owner threw a hissy fit after watching team get gashed by a player they traded away", and nothing will ever dissuade me That's fair, a huge chunk of the Colts fanbase is surprised that Ballard still has a job
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Grittybeard posted:On the other hand basically this: https://twitter.com/Sam_Phalen/status/1600210873234038784?s=20&t=Y4gJ5Tni_f5sOQ2Ph_xJjw This is one reason. Another is that both the Colts and the Jags might be hunting GMs, so why not get ahead of your direct competitors.
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a neat cape posted:Get my son a good OC and a speedy WR Justin Herbert is gonna have so many kids
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Vertical Lime posted:https://twitter.com/CBSSportsGang/status/1600203180876259330 It's pretty crazy to me that Spongebob Squarepants is still a relevant children's TV show in 2022. I was watching that when I was a kid!
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a neat cape posted:Get my son a good OC and a speedy WR Frankly it seems easier to just trade him if you want a better situation for him.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Who was an enlightened dictactor? Ehh, Alexander the Great? Generally difficult to have a sophisticated enough bureaucracy before the early modern to really qualify as a dictator or absolute monarch, and Alexander certainly didn’t have time to consolidate his empire, but Augustus wouldn’t be a bad choice if you wanted to stay classical. There’s a handful of usual suspects whenever “enlightened despot” is used though: Catherine, Peter, and Frederick the Greats, Joseph II, Maria Theresa. Richelieu would be a fun choice but titans jerseys don’t have enough swag:  (forgive me, it’s basically the chargers offseason)
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ShakeZula posted:That's fair, a huge chunk of the Colts fanbase is surprised that Ballard still has a job Probably because he's handling his transactions they way his insane owner wants him to edit: I really hope he doesn't go to the Titans now that I think about it
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Bismack Billabongo posted:You have the reigning coach of the year already signed to a long term deal, an established number one at qb with a raw but promising rookie in the wings, and the people looking for GM jobs think their poo poo doesn’t stink. I Promising?????
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Grittybeard posted:On the other hand basically this: seems reasonable that Vrabel strongly disagreed with trading AJ Brown, the owner might've also not been thrilled and then watching him come back and smoke them was just a bridge too far especially with him saying he never wanted to leave Tenn in the first place.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Frankly it seems easier to just trade him if you want a better situation for him. no
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Harlock posted:I wonder if Matt Ryan stayed on the Falcons if they'd be leading the NFC South right now maybe but he's gotten so bad at the back breaking turnovers especially with his arm declining further. its hard to say
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Can someone tell me if these guys are panning out? quote:Gave up: A.J. Brown + 26th pick Burks is promising. I mean before getting his brain erased.
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