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Another Bill posted:Does anyone know where I could get Warcry stats for my Breaka-Boss on Mirebrute Troggoth? use the dankhold troggoth datasheet from the compendium, it's basically perfect
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i just picked up a second hand kroot kill team to go with my pathfinder kill team at the local stores swapmeet
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Ominous Jazz posted:i just picked up a second hand kroot kill team to go with my pathfinder kill team at the local stores swapmeet Cease to Hope fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Apr 29, 2024 |
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As someone who's lived through it, the templates weren't the problem. It was what the templates encouraged: movement phases that took an eternity. Every unit had to spread out because of templates. poo poo was like the opposite of Tetris.
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Z the IVth posted:This is some seriously cool nostalgia. I never really played 2nd but my first 40k exposure was the box set and all the art from that era. Found an stl of the bunker and dark vengeance barricades and printed them in resin. https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/glorious-1990s-bunker-fortifcation-terrain The old Shrine is from Grimdarkterrains birthday pack, it's epic scale so just needs resizing, mines a bit small. :F I did play an all painted game recently, GSC vs Orks Orks had taken and hold, a small MDF shrine on the broken bridge, I had dawn raid, my efforts to fufill dawn raid were cut short when my chimera and sentinels were killed by buggy fire, however the chimera bravely zoomed forward exploding in a fireball to kill a large group of Orks. No hand to hand combat all game, with the hybrids surging forward last minute with flamers and hand flamers to kill any ork near the objective. The genestealers nicely painted were done by Josh from crown of command, an ex eavy metal team guy.            Kharnifex fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Apr 29, 2024 |
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Cease to Hope posted:pathfinders are absolutely outstanding models. there's some hard competition but i think they're the best-looking team made specifically for KT, a bit ahead of kommandos and inquisitorial agents. (chaos cult is the best but they're retasked models from 40K.) Are the pathfinders specifically made for KT? I thought it was just a regular PF box plus an upgrade sprue Edit: agreed they are great models, I loved building the lil tacticool aliens back when I had delusions of ever playing actual 40k
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moths posted:As someone who's lived through it, the templates weren't the problem. If I was going to write template rules in TYOOL 2024, I would have them determine if the unit as a whole got hit, not individual models. Basically, you get the joy of putting the flame template on the table, making "fwoosh" noises as you do so, but the actual resolution is like a Blast weapon in Kings of War (DX+X hits). At absolute most, I would have the template either give a bonus to the number of hits you score if it covered a certain % of the models in a unit, or I would set the minimum number of hits equal to the maximum number of models you can cover. So for instance if you could cover 3 models, and a basic flamer did D3+1 hits, if your total score was only a 2, it would automatically go up to 3 hits, but you could still roll a total of 4 and hit more models than covered so the threat level of the flamer is more in the statline than in how many models it can cover giving less incentive to make movement as precise and spread out as 3e.
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What if you took the template and marked out a number of hits on it, that increased as they got closer to the narrow end of the template. Then when you use the template if you are really close to them you maximise your hits, but if you are far away you only might hit one or two. It becomes more about moving your one guy close up rather than punishing opponents clumping up.
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Squibsy posted:Are the pathfinders specifically made for KT? I thought it was just a regular PF box plus an upgrade sprue sorry, meant the kroot farstalkers, which is what ominous jazz was talking about. and they are a brand new box, not built on the old kroot carnivores (which dated back to the original tau release). HidaO-Win posted:What if you took the template and marked out a number of hits on it, that increased as they got closer to the narrow end of the template. Then when you use the template if you are really close to them you maximise your hits, but if you are far away you only might hit one or two. you can do this in inches/cm and just sell a fancy ruler with fire on it
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HidaO-Win posted:What if you took the template and marked out a number of hits on it, that increased as they got closer to the narrow end of the template. Then when you use the template if you are really close to them you maximise your hits, but if you are far away you only might hit one or two. I think that's a really novel way to handle it as well. It would be easy enough to indicate bands on the template.
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Every time I consider getting into epic armageddon I remember how much of a mess it'd be to actually get armies for it. Which on the whole is probably a good thing
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StashAugustine posted:Every time I consider getting into epic armageddon I remember how much of a mess it'd be to actually get armies for it. Which on the whole is probably a good thing How come? If anything it is too easy, way too easy. I might honestly have 50k+ points across a half dozen armies. Are you after OG minis only or something? The game is so loving good, it is worth it. What army are you thinking? edit: If I can help let me know. Virtual Russian fucked around with this message at 00:22 on May 1, 2024 |
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3D printing has made it really easy to assemble an army  (Now to paint an army is another story).
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Virtual Russian posted:How come? If anything it is too easy, way too easy. I might honestly have 50k+ points across a half dozen armies. Are you after OG minis only or something? Just thinking of doing the usual guard > orcs > marines > eldar and then on from there (tau probably being a high priority). I don't have a 3d printer myself, and it seems like a pain finding consistent models- especially compared to Warmaster where you can easily get whole armies on Etsy. I've seen Vanguard and Onslaught selling models, though Vanguard is UK based (I'm in the US) and I'm not a huge fan of Onslaught's designs. Eldar in particular look like they're missing chunks of their roster, aspect warriors especially
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StashAugustine posted:Just thinking of doing the usual guard > orcs > marines > eldar and then on from there (tau probably being a high priority). I don't have a 3d printer myself, and it seems like a pain finding consistent models- especially compared to Warmaster where you can easily get whole armies on Etsy. I've seen Vanguard and Onslaught selling models, though Vanguard is UK based (I'm in the US) and I'm not a huge fan of Onslaught's designs. Eldar in particular look like they're missing chunks of their roster, aspect warriors especially Ok, honestly, all that is fair. I have been enviously eyeing the warmaster folk's complete ranges. I really like Vanguard, I'm in Canada, shipping sucks. I try to make large complete orders, which can be challenging with his stock levels always being low. On the upside, he's super accessible, I bug him on discord all the time about when he'll have what, and if he can hold stuff. He's always willing to make something work, he's great. Guard and Marines are pretty easy to put together. For Guard, pick infantry from one source, and you can still get your armour from another if you want. It always looks cohesive in the end. Marines are very easy, there are complete sets on Etsy, STLs all over, GW is making em again too, and Vanguards marine infantry have an absurd number of poses. Guard is my favourite, they were my first army to collect back when EA released, and the first I built when I picked the game back up. I do mechanized infantry, usually with a Warlord or Reaver, and it just looks great on the table. Tanks galore. Win or lose they are fun to play, no matter how bad you play you cannot get tabled. You be in it until the end, which is always fun. Orks are everywhere and they are all good. Just find the set that fits what you like in orks. I've got ~15k points of orks, from about every producer to have ever made them. I mix em all together with zero care for cohesion, sometimes even on the same base. They still look great, better that way even. Eldar are way easier to collect as of very recently. There is a very complete set of stls out there for sure. Plus vanguard is filling out their proxy line, including some aspects. I'm not super well versed though as I'm blessed with a near complete set of the Epic40k Eldar range. They are all so small, like 4mm scale for vehicles, I'm only half joking when I say using them is almost modeling for advantage. Tau are next on my list, still looking around for minis I like. I also don't like Onslaught. Best of all the game is really enjoyable to play.
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Yeah from reading rules and battle reports its like maybe a bit bigger than I'd really like, but the systems look shockingly elegant overall for a GW product, and I really like the bigger picture the smaller scale permits. What points level is most common? I know there's community rules for 1k, seems like a lot of tourneys are 3k but does 2k work? Also what army lists do you use- I kinda like the UK ones for being a little simpler but I haven't really played them so idk
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A quick search for "etsy epic armageddon will easily turn up plenty of sellers. Possibly too easily, I may have just impulse ordered a not-Gaunt's Ghosts army in 8mm.
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StashAugustine posted:Yeah from reading rules and battle reports its like maybe a bit bigger than I'd really like, but the systems look shockingly elegant overall for a GW product, and I really like the bigger picture the smaller scale permits. What points level is most common? I know there's community rules for 1k, seems like a lot of tourneys are 3k but does 2k work? Also what army lists do you use- I kinda like the UK ones for being a little simpler but I haven't really played them so idk I play a lot of 1k (minigeddon), and a lot of 3k, which is also what tournaments are. When my brother and I get together we do 5k, that begins to stretch the game a bit too much though. I wouldn't recommend unless you can make a day of it. I use NetEA, almost everyone in North America does. The occasional person uses a UK list, and no one really minds in my experience. A tournament I went to a couple years back let someone play UK squats or some other non-standard net:ea list, no one said a thing. The army was gorgeous, ancient gw squats and some prints to fill gaps.
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Kylaer posted:3D printing has made it really easy to assemble an army Airbrush, drybrush and oil wash. 6mm are literally the easiest to paint.
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Chiming in to say that Epic Armageddon rocks. As stated, there are tons of options for most of the armies in the game, and, if you're lucky enough to find people locally, most are happy enough to offload older stuff they don't need anymore. Joining Epic Facebook groups is also a great way to pick stuff up. Onslaught and Microworld are good non-3D print sources, but printing is going to be your best bet, so if you don't want to get into printing things yourself (understandable) Etsy and Ebay are certainly great options. Hell, you could use the LI Marines for SMs - they are a bit large compared to EA models, but most folks won't give you a hard time about it. Personally, I find Orks to be weirdly difficult to source stuff for, if you're looking for proxies that look similar to actual GW-style Ork vehicles, but there are at least consistent product lines out there that can be used. Bishok did a line of Raiders that are good proxies and would allow you to retain a consistent look for your force. The Lazy Forger Tech and Enlsted are also great options for proxies. Like Virtual Russian stated, 3K is usually a "normal" game. It gives you a good amount of units without becoming unmanageable. Almost everything you need for rules and lists is here: https://tp.net-armageddon.org/ berzerkmonkey fucked around with this message at 12:58 on May 1, 2024 |
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I have WQ blackstone fortress in my hands! So hype! It looks awesome!!  I wonder if the 40k datasheets for these special characters have been updated for 10th, theyll probably be imperial agents or something.
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Z the IVth posted:Airbrush, drybrush and oil wash. 6mm are literally the easiest to paint. FACT It's counterintuitive, but having less model to paint means it's easier to paint. Just use a small brush and find a convenient source of magnification. I use reading glasses in a range of magnification; 2.25s are good for general work and a 4.0 zooms you in on whatever's about a foot in front of your face - and blurs literally everything else. I did all my works by painting a stripe of red over the eyes and then doing the green face over that. The old Epic works have deeply recessed eye sockets so this works really well. I only took any care on the nobs, but most of my Boyz have red eyes. It was super easy and looks great.
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Leperflesh posted:with EA the tiny little guys just have guns and their abilities are tied to their statline regardless of what's modeled, which you can barely see anyway. Nobody is going to go "oh that tiny stand of five tiny guys have the wrong kind of gun" as you roll against their firefight value. this is my biggest complaint about Legiones Imperialis to boot
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Literally my only complaint about E:A is where the home brewing gets silly. And even then that's just the Dark Eldar Kaiju, Chaos Ferris Wheel, and I think some floating Necron murder complex.
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And my Legionary Kill Team has the required six operatives now, so I can maybe get a demo game in soon. Hooray. They still need the snow effects on their bases, but I'm not sure if I'm going to have time before the first game (have to varnish, wait, lay down the snow, wait, varnish again, wait). Aspiring Champion, Icon Bearer, Shrivetalon, Butcher, Heavy Gunner, and Gunner:       ...I really need to get a lightbox.
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moths posted:Literally my only complaint about E:A is where the home brewing gets silly. I'll agree with this, but, tbf, the Deathwheel was in the original GW Chaos list (which never officially released), but it's definitely a silly concept. What annoys the hell out of me is the constant "here's my take on this army which has no real functional change from the official list, except, because I really like this unit, it's going to be insanely overpowered. Oh, and I'm not going to playtest it, I'm just going to call it done."
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berzerkmonkey posted:I'll agree with this, but, tbf, the Deathwheel was in the original GW Chaos list (which never officially released), but it's definitely a silly concept. What annoys the hell out of me is the constant "here's my take on this army which has no real functional change from the official list, except, because I really like this unit, it's going to be insanely overpowered. Oh, and I'm not going to playtest it, I'm just going to call it done." moths posted:Literally my only complaint about E:A is where the home brewing gets silly. At least all the approved lists are extremely well balanced, stick to those and you are fine. I only see really unbalanced stuff in people's actual homebrew, and that isn't unique to epic. As pointed out, all that stuff came from GW, and that Necron Abattoir is dead weight imo, way too situational for the point cost. The Orb is the better pick, but even then a pair of warbarques costs the same as the orb and gets you a pair of portals, and still gives you some good long range AT fire, something necrons really want for. The necron super heavies/titans all look amazing on paper, but remember they have no void shields. Titan Killer weapons are still going to wear them down fast, even with living metal. Enjoy some tiny necrons!  
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I ordered my wife’s Novitiates today, as I am closing in on finishing my Plague Marine Kill Team. I’m a bit worried that their Faith mechanic might be a bit overwhelming for a new player (it would certainly rake some getting used to for me), but she’s smarter than me so hopefully it will be fine!
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Virtual Russian posted:At least all the approved lists are extremely well balanced, stick to those and you are fine. I only see really unbalanced stuff in people's actual homebrew, and that isn't unique to epic. As pointed out, all that stuff came from GW, and that Necron Abattoir is dead weight imo, way too situational for the point cost. The Orb is the better pick, but even then a pair of warbarques costs the same as the orb and gets you a pair of portals, and still gives you some good long range AT fire, something necrons really want for. Those are some nice tiny skellington robots.
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moths posted:Literally my only complaint about E:A is where the home brewing gets silly. Those sound amazing, elaborate now.
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DreadUnknown posted:Those are some nice tiny skellington robots. Thanks! They are so fast to paint, literally paint them silver, then wash them, then a quick highlight by drybrushing. A few little details in copper go a long way. They really show how 6mm can be fast to paint and still look nice on the table.
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Professor Shark posted:Trying out Imgbb, let’s see if this works:
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Virtual Russian posted:Thanks! They are so fast to paint, literally paint them silver, then wash them, then a quick highlight by drybrushing. A few little details in copper go a long way. They really show how 6mm can be fast to paint and still look nice on the table. I've seen those Necron things before. Are they prints or forumware?
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I had my first session of Warhammer Quest blackstone fortress with my friends, it was a complete smash hit, we really loved it! At first I thought they would play one dungeon and that would be that but once we got a grasp of the flow and rules of the game we had a great time, we played for four hours straight and didnt feel any time passing and completed real nail biter missions! Were gonna do a full run for sure over the next few weeks! I definitely think a few months down the line once we’ve played a bunch of this I’ll get WQ the cursed city if it’s as good as this, really really liking it and is perfect level of complexity for the board game group I’m with. Super awesome game and I’m glad I got it. Is Cursed City as good or interesting as Blackstone Fortress? Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 21:48 on May 3, 2024 |
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Z the IVth posted:I've seen those Necron things before. Are they prints or forumware? The monoliths and infantry are castings from Trolls Under the Bridge (Now Chaos Temple?), the obelisk is forumware, and the warbarque is a print. So a bit of everything, which is pretty typical of my collection.
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Al-Saqr posted:Is Cursed City as good or interesting as Blackstone Fortress? I have no idea about Blackstone. Cursed city started off exciting and I liked it initially, but it very quickly needs a lot of samey grinding to progress, and you're often completely at the mercy of chance with no way to mitigate that through skill, you just get hosed over and lose a couple of hours of irl time. Missions drags uncomfortably long even when you win. There are fan made rules that looked much improved, I never tried them. My real answer for "should I play cursed city?" is to try gloomhaven on pc first, if you like it, either get the sequel frosthaven or wait for the 2.0 remake of gloomhaven that's due soonish after its kick starter delivers. GH is just way more interesting to play than cursed city imo and they're similar dungeon crawlers.
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