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Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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I love Lord of the Rings as a setting, and "COOL DAD" energy is exactly my brand. Specifically, I have fond memories of going to the Metreon in San Francisco and seeing all the Middle Earth models in the GW store there when they first came out. If I knew anyone around here who played it, I'd get into it, but for now it's Underworlds and Warcry and maybe Kill Team instead.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Al-Saqr posted:

there are unsubstantiated rumors that the next gallowdark terrain will be more themed around a command deck/prison barge look (dark eldar raiding an arbites ship to snatch prisoners for enslavement) if that's true it's gonna be a day one instabuy from me.

Now that is the first time I've heard an explanation for why there would be an Arbites kill team. That actually makes some sense.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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rantmo posted:

Frankly, you came across as more than a little racist.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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I guess you could say GW has left you feeling… Hungary
:smuggo:

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Teasing Genestealers vs Terminators for the last Kill Team ITD box? Or maybe just the 10th edition starter? The white head on the terminator points away from Blood Angels, so maybe Kill Team after all?
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/03/12/echoes-from-the-warp/

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Crackbone posted:

And that’s a wholly subjective line that pushes game balance to the players instead of the people you paid to write the rules.
A well designed game doesn’t rely on self correcting player behavior.

You can enjoy a badly balanced game but don’t blame players for doing what’s in the framework of the game.

Right, nobody complains about chess players who "play to win at all costs" (unless that cost is getting advice from a chess program via your vibrating butt plug, of course). What I loved about Warmachine in its heyday was just that -- the rule set was tight, the player base was competitive but friendly, and you felt like you were playing a clean, strategic game like chess. Everyone knew you were playing to win, and there was good sportsmanship.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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!Klams posted:

Is Kill Team any better?

Yes, there's far fewer options in kitting out your team, and the rule set is tight.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Cease to Hope posted:

the oldhammer space beastmen were like that too though. some of them were just fantasy designs used straight, since there were only a couple 40K-specific beastmen (although they were easy to kitbash).



the idea at the time is that beastmen are all fringer abhumans that are barely tolerated and may or may not actually be chaos mutations. outside of their leaders (the dude on the right there is based on an actual model with a plasma pistol, chainsword, and cuirass) they have primitive weapons because they're chaos cultists or press-ganged imperial cannon fodder.

this isn't even the first nostalgia-bait 40k beastman. they did one for newcromunda, too, more directly based on one of the oldhammer models (pictured in that link).

Yeah, Squats and Beastmen in 40K both have a lineage going back to the very beginning. This box is directly targeted at people's nostalgia, and they got me for sure.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Annointed posted:

Are there in depth guides for Kill Team? Other than Wahapedia and the occasional in depth article on Goomhammer info on higher level tactics and play seem to be hidden behind word of mouth and discord.

Can You Roll A Crit? is by John Rees, a top Kill Team player (#4 in the world for the 2022 ITC season). He also covers Underworlds though is less rosy on it than he used to be.
https://canyourollacrit.com/
https://www.youtube.com/@CanYouRollaCrit

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Luckily pre-ordering through one of my local independent shops has worked out fine for me, but the GW pre-order and supply chain issues have gotten just absurd. There's also a comic book shop nearby that also carries Warhammer stuff but a lot of people don't realize it. They still had two copies of Gallowfall sitting around yesterday.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Warden posted:

Sons of Velmor seem to be a bit worse than Gnarlspirit Pack, that's for sure.

Gnarlspirit Pack is a bit overpowered, yeah. They actually put out a beta rule to nerf them a bit. See the Beta Rules section on page 6: https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/3hVqUJAA3PwmlQUt.pdf

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Half of a Necromunda Delaque Gang box rounds out the Inquisition Kill Team bodies very nicely:

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Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Squibsy posted:

Seriously? Has GW truly managed to kill the spirit of converting and kitbashing as a central part of the hobby?

There's a big difference between kitbashing in general, and the particular problem of using most of the defining features of one model instead on a different model that you'd see in the same context. "I kitbashed my missile launcher dreadnaught to use lascannon pieces instead and the lascannon barrels represent the missile tubes, wait, why are you confused about whether my dreadnaught has missile launchers or lascannons?"

Muir fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Jun 10, 2023

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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SuperKlaus posted:

Ohh awesome. I like that a lot more than the alternative. But because your roster is blind, you still wouldn't pick e.g. whether your Kasrkin sergeant has plasma pistol chainsword or bolt pistol power sword in response to the enemy, right?

You would pick in response to knowing the enemy faction/roster of 20, but not what selections they had made from their roster. So you'd know whether you were facing chaos cultists or adeptus custodes and could choose accordingly.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Froghammer posted:

Itsy bitsy teeny weeny dead guy-powered gun machiney

:iia:

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Bottom Liner posted:

It's still an entire product line in service of the real game. It's a niche within a niche, behind 40k/AoS/BB. It's more popular than Warcry, but a good bit behind Underworlds from what I've seen in a variety of local scenes.

In terms of the local scenes I know of as well as the relative event sizes at major cons, KT is way bigger than Underworlds. Adepticon had a paltry showing for Underworlds and I don’t know if Gencon had anything to speak of either. Which is too bad because I love Underworlds and used to run our local meetup.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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I love the aesthetic for the underwater creature Slaaneshi warband for Underworlds!

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

From what I've seen he's just pretty good at mental gymnastics to prove his leaks and predictions were right. (And by his I mean the stuff he grabs off of reddit to amplify)

Yeah, I don't think he's particularly reliable, just loud.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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I'm looking to assemble the two Inquisitorial Support options from Ashes of Faith. I think I've got enough bodies to build all the Tempestus Scions options, but I've only got the five Sisters of Silence. Is there a clear best choice there? All great blades because I would bring a different support if I wanted shooting? How much of a pain in the rear end are they to magnetize if it is worth having the other options?

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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mllaneza posted:

If you can get a pickup game of KT on a weekend, post that store!

e. or any flavor of Epic

The Kill Team scene at Games of Berkeley seems decent, and they’re running a beginner friendly Learn to Play event on October 21 that I may try to go to.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Atlas Hugged posted:



I have been working on a project.

Hell yeah

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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StashAugustine posted:

Thanks, I was very bored Sunday lol. Couple questions about the game:
-I understand tac ops have been massively erratad, is it possible to reasonably proxy the new ones with the old deck? The replacement just has one deck, right?
-On that note, what's a good recommendation for Vet Guard/Kommandos tac ops to get a handle on learning the game?
-Are any of the Into the Dark season boxes still available or am I gonna have to shell out like $150 for just the terrain?

The Into the Dark set is still on eBay below MSRP.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Angry Lobster posted:

What's the first?

Warhammer Underworlds. GW even agrees right there on the box: "The Ultimate Competitive Miniatures Game"

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Stephenls posted:

Oof. No more big combined Kill Ream boxes with two kill teams and terrain; I guess that means shipping costs have gone high enough that GW would have to set their MSRP higher than they figure audiences would accept.

I appreciate this as I do have enough terrain already.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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There’s at least one Leagues of Votann with Skaven heads army out there, and it works really well.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Lord_Hambrose posted:

Honestly pretty surprised Mantic is still around. While not everything they make looks bad, you often get what you pay for.

It's a shame because Kings of War is a great game, but most of their rules are nothing to write home about. Unless you are motivated by poverty or rabid GW hate.

Their terrain crates are pretty good. Those are the only products of theirs that I have any experience with.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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No Luck Needed posted:

I suppose what I meant to say, is there a community that can recommend "count-as" for these games

edt.

oh no a new page

anyone ever use those pop-up book style terrain? Upzone or Titans Terrain?

anyone use the Infinity pre-made terrain?

I've got a pack of the Upzone terrain. It's.. all right. Sturdy enough, I expect, but doesn't have the feel of actual plastic terrain. I picked up two Mantic terrain crates on clearance at a local game store and they're way better.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Images of The Old World Tomb King box leaked: https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer/comments/18ifeu2/tomb_king_box_leaked/

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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I've been hanging onto this Island of Blood starter set that got passed along to me, thinking maybe I'd use it to start a Skaven army for AoS. But maybe I'll use it for Old World instead.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Bug Squash posted:

crushed like a bug

You're very into bugs being smashed, aren't you?

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Douche Phoenix posted:


Another Underworlds warband bites the dust.
Can't wait to play with these boys tonight and inevitably get shut down when I roll like rear end.

Edit:
My usual Warhamms group has the itch for LI, what's roughly the points (and :shepspends:) that an army will run?

Nice, those look really great.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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I focus my painting around things that are playable (reasonably loaded out kill teams, squads that might make a reasonable army), but yeah the last time I played was...?

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Cease to Hope posted:

i've been playing warhammer underworlds and it's cool as poo poo so i'm gonna post about it

i recently picked up a harrowdeep box out of a clearance bin and the two teams in it are cool as hell. xandire's truthseekers is a D&D party of stormcast with a cloaked paladin, fighter with a sledgehammer, and ranger archer with a pet bird. the other team is da kunnin' krew, a team of two kruleboys orcs, all lanky and skinny and scowling, as well as their two goblin arrowcatchers and the one-handed hobgob who bosses them around. I've found they're both a ton of fun in rivals and nemesis play. (i wouldn't know championship, i'm not interested in that and nobody here plays it.)

da kunnin krew's cards make them look like they're super tricky and strategic, but what they actually want to do is get in a big stupid fight in the midboard. the leader, mannok, can reposition another member of the team when anyone (including himself) makes a move action (including a charge). mostly you're using that to either get the other orc, torka, into position to use his assist bubble, or throwing one of the goblins underfoot to inspire them and get double assists. the entire team is super easy to inspire, and everyone but the smallest goblins has a decent attack, at least when inspired.

the main trap with DKK is krookgrin, the hobgob middle manager. he has an ability and a bunch of cards that all feel like they should be half of a combo, but it's all distracting garbage. you could spend glory to have the goblins use their puny attacks, but krookgrin swings on three swords for two damage and the team is great at setting up assists to make an attack like that do work. just have him stab things, and ditch all his janky cards in nemesis.

when upgrading DKK in nemesis, they really want tools to keep your orcs alive, objectives that make the enemy come to you, more surges, and more damage. they can do positional aggro well with fearsome fortress, or control-oriented play with voidcursed thralls or toxic terrors. it seems like they might like that new rimefrost relics deck, too. they don't get along with breakneck slaughter's chaotic repositioning or tooth & claw's emphasis on range 1 attacks and suicide aggro, and force of frost and daring delvers don't have enough good surges to work.

my biggest problem with the team is that i hate the models. i should love an orc with a birdcage on his head and his mancatcher assistant but they all just look like indistinct lumps with pigeon-deterrent spikes on them. i'm not a huge fan of the kruleboys look overall, but the decision to drape these guys in layered hanging rags just makes them shapeless.

xandire's truthseekers are also cool but i am out of time to post.

Underworlds is my favorite game. Glad to see it getting some love.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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berzerkmonkey posted:

The newer WHU sets are based on the Rivals format, correct? I thought they were supposed to be somewhat balanced out of the box? The pandemic kind of killed WHU for me, so I'm not up on the current play styles.

Rivals or Nemesis, yeah.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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I have both GSC and Votann armies, so the next box is a no-brainer for me.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Bug Squash posted:

I'm prepared to be corrected, but I think it's Cadian Shock Troops plus an upgrade sprue for more specialists, wrinkly heads and extra arms. It could probably proxy into or from Vet Guard extremely easily.

I'm wondering if it's just the old GSC Brood Brothers Cadian upgrade sprue that's been around since they launched, or a new one.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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Corsairs would be sweet in those colors too.

Bottom Liner posted:

Nah, too basic. Let her pick out whatever team she thinks looks cool.


I vote tyranids because they look great in those colors





Whoa those are sweet.

Muir fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Apr 5, 2024

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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After trying to hold the Underworlds scene together at my local independent store and having it fall apart anyway, it seems that the new manager of my closest GW store is into supporting the smaller scale games, and I'm going to (help him) run an Underworlds organized play event next month. Cautiously optimistic at the chance of having some turnout, the last time I played an Underworlds event there a bunch of people turned up that I'd never met before despite thinking I knew the local scene pretty well. We'll see!

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Muir
Sep 27, 2005

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smug jeebus posted:

Shh man I'm trying to sell my copy

Cursed City is a great deal for a Soulblight Gravelords player.

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