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DR FRASIER KRANG posted:it's not even that. they didn't even do anything. it's like the dudes the fbi tricked into "bombing" that bridge in Cleveland. Ya or the Michigan governor kidnapping plot where the FBI agents planted themselves in a group of 4 bored whiteys and just kept suggesting they do illegal poo poo until the targets humored them to shut them up Never came close to actually doing anything but the local SAC got to pretend he saved lives when a guy who wasn't listening went "huh? ya sure"
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Weka posted:Let's go Brandon. You don't have to worry about these punk rear end bitches cuz I eat them for breakfast.
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paul_soccer12 posted:The trick is to not buy Plat so no one can PM you offers of money or nudes in exchange for terrorism I will give you one nude in exchange for one terrorism. Your wiles cannot stop me Paul.
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Man Musk posted:You don't have to worry about these punk rear end bitches cuz I eat them for breakfast. As a humanitarian, I support the destabalization of America.
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I think I'm confusing The Base and atomwaffen. The Base was built from the ground up by the feds to entrap right wingers where atomwaffen had more organic origins in some defunct nazi webforum but over time evolved into 90% FBI assets and 10% idiots
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paul_soccer12 posted:I think I'm confusing The Base and atomwaffen. The Base was built from the ground up by the feds to entrap right wingers where atomwaffen had more organic origins in some defunct nazi webforum but over time evolved into 90% FBI assets and 10% idiots what a tribute to "الْقَاعِدَة (al-qāʿida), definite form of قَاعِدَة (qāʿida, “foundation, base”)"
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mawarannahr posted:what a tribute to "الْقَاعِدَة (al-qāʿida), definite form of قَاعِدَة (qāʿida, “foundation, base”)" Also Paul Muadib's fremen name Usul means the Base of the pillar which is where Osama Bin Laden got the name in the first place
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As expected, the AI bernie av crew is a mess. Don't worry, I'll clean up this sorry rear end crew.
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paul_soccer12 posted:Also Paul Muadib's fremen name Usul means the Base of the pillar which is where Osama Bin Laden got the name in the first place Based
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mawarannahr posted:what a tribute to "الْقَاعِدَة (al-qāʿida), definite form of قَاعِدَة (qāʿida, “foundation, base”)" I wonder if there is a simple 'paint by numbers' manual on how to set up a right wing extremist group published by the federal government with a list of example names.
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Yeah there is actually a lot of info on the founding fathers on .gov websites
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GBS several months ago: "It was just methy rednecks having fun, stop fear mongering about Nazis." This week: "We regret to inform you the rednecks have some reactionary politics..."
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Weka posted:Let's go Brandon.
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American nazi terrorists all think the turner diaries is a documentary and all it will take to kick off the race war is a terrorist attack. Usually the fbi is ginning them up to go murder people a la mcveigh or countless mass shooters. I don't see what their being delusional assholes with poo poo brains getting egged on by another white supremacist terrorist group (the fbi) has to do with them being terrorists or not
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paul_soccer12 posted:The trick is to not buy Plat so no one can PM you offers of money or nudes in exchange for terrorism your nudes will not entice me, robert
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Hatebag posted:American nazi terrorists all think the turner diaries is a documentary and all it will take to kick off the race war is a terrorist attack. Usually the fbi is ginning them up to go murder people a la mcveigh or countless mass shooters. I don't see what their being delusional assholes with poo poo brains getting egged on by another white supremacist terrorist group (the fbi) has to do with them being terrorists or not they just want to terrorize black people and other minorities in hope of spurring more violence against minorities. even the republican party is trying to turn "terrorist" as a badge of pride after january 6th.
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My point is the fbi is basically contracting out its historical nazi terrorism. It's neoliberalism!
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paul_soccer12 posted:I think I'm confusing The Base and atomwaffen. The Base was built from the ground up by the feds to entrap right wingers where atomwaffen had more organic origins in some defunct nazi webforum but over time evolved into 90% FBI assets and 10% idiots fbi/cia are in all the right wing terror groups as extracurriculars - assignments to left wing groups are just business
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Hatebag posted:My point is the fbi is basically contracting out its historical nazi terrorism. It's neoliberalism!
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Hatebag posted:American nazi terrorists all think the turner diaries is a documentary and all it will take to kick off the race war is a terrorist attack. Usually the fbi is ginning them up to go murder people a la mcveigh or countless mass shooters. I don't see what their being delusional assholes with poo poo brains getting egged on by another white supremacist terrorist group (the fbi) has to do with them being terrorists or not Blowing things up is not terrorism per se. 9-11 was terrorism because it was designed to make people scared it could happen again, or a different type of attack by similar actors could take place. McVeigh on the other hand afaik saw himself as an insurgent performing a revenge attack on the government. These are different ideas but because America has spent the past two decades labeling people protecting their homeland from invaders as terrorists, hamburger brained individuals cannot tell the difference.
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Weka posted:Blowing things up is not terrorism per se. 9-11 was terrorism because it was designed to make people scared it could happen again, or a different type of attack by similar actors could take place. McVeigh on the other hand afaik saw himself as an insurgent performing a revenge attack on the government. These are different ideas but because America has spent the past two decades labeling people protecting their homeland from invaders as terrorists, hamburger brained individuals cannot tell the difference.
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Weka posted:Blowing things up is not terrorism per se. 9-11 was terrorism because it was designed to make people scared it could happen again, or a different type of attack by similar actors could take place. McVeigh on the other hand afaik saw himself as an insurgent performing a revenge attack on the government. These are different ideas but because America has spent the past two decades labeling people protecting their homeland from invaders as terrorists, hamburger brained individuals cannot tell the difference. The usual definition of terrorism is using violence or the threat of violence to achieve political ends. If a nazi's goal in shooting up a substation is causing a race war then that nazi is doing terrorism because their end is white supremacy/genocide and their means is violence. McVeigh was a nazi that wanted the white majority to rise up and kill all the non-whites. He was a terrorist and so were his fbi handlers. He went to elohim city lol, that's a fed/nazi compound If I'm not understanding you correctly here, please don't take offense - I'm half a bottle deep here
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I mean by that standard all war is terrorism, which is kinda true but there's a useful distinction somewhere in there
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StashAugustine posted:I mean by that standard all war is terrorism, which is kinda true but there's a useful distinction somewhere in there Ok, then what's a definition of terrorism that doesn't include these events?
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Hatebag posted:The usual definition of terrorism is using violence or the threat of violence to achieve political ends. If a nazi's goal in shooting up a substation is causing a race war then that nazi is doing terrorism because their end is white supremacy/genocide and their means is violence. To qualify as terrorism there must an intent to cause fear. It's the use of terror as a political tool. The threat of violence towards political ends is something inherent in a state.
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Weka posted:To qualify as terrorism there must an intent to cause fear. It's the use of terror as a political tool. The threat of violence towards political ends is something inherent in a state. Personally, I think the intent to cause fear is contained within the desire for genocide and race war, but your fears may vary
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Weka posted:To qualify as terrorism there must an intent to cause fear. It's the use of terror as a political tool. The threat of violence towards political ends is something inherent in a state.
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Animal-Mother posted:GBS several months ago: "It was just methy rednecks having fun, stop fear mongering about Nazis." lol gbs. you can get that in cspam
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StashAugustine posted:I mean by that standard all war is terrorism, which is kinda true but there's a useful distinction somewhere in there only in that it's a righteous war if the bourgeois are scared
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This is redneck hijinks erasure
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Weka posted:To qualify as terrorism there must an intent to cause fear. It's the use of terror as a political tool. The threat of violence towards political ends is something inherent in a state. "Its only terrorism if They do it. Otherwise its just sparkling 2nd amendmentism"
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Hatebag posted:Personally, I think the intent to cause fear is contained within the desire for genocide and race war, but your fears may vary Sometimes sure, but the fear is the goal not the method. Sometimes genocide is just about the victims not being around any more. Fivemarks posted:"Its only terrorism if They do it. Otherwise its just sparkling 2nd amendmentism" Are you serious? Because I was pretty clear that I don't consider the Taliban or the Iraqi insurgency to be terrorism. As far as this sort of thing by American white supremacists goes, sometimes it's leveraging terror to achieve their ends but sometimes not.
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Weka posted:Sometimes sure, but the fear is the goal not the method. Sometimes genocide is just about the victims not being around any more.
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Weka posted:Sometimes sure, but the fear is the goal not the method. Sometimes genocide is just about the victims not being around any more. I don't think so. Their idea of how a race war starts is based on their attacks causing their victims to lash out in fear. The nazis want their victims to be scared because they think that would make them feel powerful but they also want their victims to react in fear because they imagine that's how the battle lines get drawn. Their idea is that they attack blacks, blacks react, and then that reaction gets the rest of the whites on their side. So fear is definitely one of their means. They want their victims scared and they want the rest of the whites scared.
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Hatebag posted:I don't think so. Their idea of how a race war starts is based on their attacks causing their victims to lash out in fear. The nazis want their victims to be scared because they think that would make them feel powerful but they also want their victims to react in fear because they imagine that's how the battle lines get drawn. Their idea is that they attack blacks, blacks react, and then that reaction gets the rest of the whites on their side. So fear is definitely one of their means. They want their victims scared and they want the rest of the whites scared. Do you have some evidence to support this? It makes sense but I am unaware of any. Atomwaffen specifically take their ideology from James Mason, especially his newsletter Siege. It's right wing accelerationist and holds that the path to the race war requires the overthrow of the government first. It seeks to sow chaos as a means to this goal. Mason supported Black and communist violence because they were attacks on the state. I found this article interesting, perhaps you will too. https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/james-mason TenementFunster posted:lmao did you just compare a nazi targeting hundreds of thousands of innocent black people to iraqi resistance to american imperialism? It's ok to compare things. It's even ok to point out similarities two things share when one of those things is good and the other bad. In this case I was making it clear that I do not consider the perpetrator being a neo-nazi or white supremacist a defining quality in whether or not something counts as terrorism. For instance I do not consider your posts to be terrorism despite your hamburger brains.
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Weka posted:Do you have some evidence to support this? It makes sense but I am unaware of any. That article calls mason a terrorist in the first paragraph. And then there are all the references to the turner diaries which was written by mason's mentor and explicitly describes using terrorism to overthrow the us government and have a nazi revolution and a race war. and charles manson, who said he was trying to do a false flag black power killing to initiate a race war And there's this: quote:To some Nazis, the setbacks they experienced – the rally itself was not allowed to even start, and afterward there was a subsequent media backlash and widespread online deplatforming – were all a vindication of Mason’s thesis: The strategy of holding legal rallies in public would always end in failure. Everything was stacked against white supremacists, they reasoned, and there was no way to succeed if they acted within the law. The only thing to do was either to drop out of society altogether or go underground and start planning terrorist attacks. After Charlottesville, #ReadSiege soared in popularity as a hashtag on social media. So that article repeatedly refers to mason as a terrorist and cites several of his influences, who are also white supremacist terrorists. Also it mentions how mcveigh was inspired by the turner diaries. It goes on to describe how atomwaffen is based on his horseshit. I'm not sure how this is supposed to show that his nazi group is not terroristic I guess my source for calling nazis terrorists is basically that the nazis all say "we are terrorists." They're not clever about it or anything. Just a bunch of dipshits with double digit iqs regurgitating the turner diaries, which describes using fear to get the whites to support genocide. And he only supports other groups attacking the state because he thinks it will galvanize the whites through fear. That was an interesting article I wouldn't recommend reading the turner diaries though
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Atomwaffen is a front for a right-wing satanist cult called the Order of Nine Angles. The upper echelons of the organization don't actually believe in racism, they just use racism as a means to spread evil and despair throughout the world.
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