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ScootsMcSkirt posted:it is turn based Not the combat! Real time with pause is an awful system. I thought we had all agreed on that years ago when we switched over Pathfinder, Pillars of Eternity 2 and Baldur's Gate 3.
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John Murdoch posted:I'm not putting anything ahead of anything, I'm just saying Hellgate managed to only mostly die, whereas Marvel Heroes completely died. Fair, fair.
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FWIW Total War Warhammer 2 is a pretty solid title and lacks some of the poor optimization that stills affects 3. 3 also has some severe internal issues like the devs still having no idea what to do with sieges (so they essentially removed half of them from the game) and some factions being stuck in different degrees of mechanical jank due to different teams working on them, especially Nurgle and Norsca. On the upside, 3 has some major QoL upgrades and modding has gone completely wild, adding custom-made animations, models, voiceovers and even an even bigger campaign map that makes Immortal Empires look tiny. The story in 2 is perfunctory at best and at most has you going "oh cool" at teasers for stuff in 3, so don't feel compelled to get it just for that. It has as much of a story as Age of Wonders 4. Substandard posted:Not the combat! Real time with pause is an awful system. I thought we had all agreed on that years ago when we switched over Pathfinder, Pillars of Eternity 2 and Baldur's Gate 3. There's no point of comparison between RTwP in an RPG and an RTS where the lifespan of a unit in an even matchup is measured in minutes, not seconds. Although I'd be down for a Field of Glory-style Warhammer title, it'd be even more niche than Total War already is and also the exact opposite sort of title the franchise is known for. Azran fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Mar 28, 2024 |
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Yeah that's super not what people mean by RTWP. (Also if you pause a TW battle you are weak.)
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I know it's not a great comparison, but actual Warhammer is turn based and that seems to work out OK.
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Substandard posted:I know it's not a great comparison, but actual Warhammer is turn based and that seems to work out OK. The actual Warhammer is real-time because setting your wallet on fire is not turn-based.
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Pigbuster posted:Red Candle's Nine Sols will be released on May 29th. Extremely excited for this. same, interested how they’ll handle the genre switch
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John Murdoch posted:I mean, even as a single player standalone that still makes it more playable than Marvel Heroes these days. Oh man, this reminds me that every so often I'd see The Secret World come up and think,"Oh hey, that game seems extremely like the type of thing I'd like to play, why have I never gotten it before?" and then I'd remember that it was for absolutely no apparent reason a loving MMO  Like, even as I made this post I went and did a wikipedia search to make sure it WAS an MMO because it still doesn't make any goddamn sense to me at all... and yep, it was a loving MMO!?! 
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I never liked the Total War franchise very much, but if you made the battles turn-based, it would completely change what type of game it is. The real-time battles are a core part of its identity. At that point, just write it off and look for something else to play.
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Jerusalem posted:Oh man, this reminds me that every so often I'd see The Secret World come up and think,"Oh hey, that game seems extremely like the type of thing I'd like to play, why have I never gotten it before?" and then I'd remember that it was for absolutely no apparent reason a loving MMO By the end you could play it pretty much solo, I think, but yeah what a waste. Could have been a franchise of excellent games by now.
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Jerusalem posted:Oh man, this reminds me that every so often I'd see The Secret World come up and think,"Oh hey, that game seems extremely like the type of thing I'd like to play, why have I never gotten it before?" and then I'd remember that it was for absolutely no apparent reason a loving MMO The Secret World was so loving fun and if I remember so heavily instanced that you could play it all solo. That ruled. Edit: Ultima Online is still around and I almost got high enough last week to install it to walk around Moonglow.
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Phlegmish posted:I never liked the Total War franchise very much, but if you made the battles turn-based, it would completely change what type of game it is. The real-time battles are a core part of its identity. At that point, just write it off and look for something else to play. Yeah my ultimate problem is that I don't like Total War much but I like Warhammer Fantasy and with the big campaign map and all the factions it's the best experience available even if I wish they did basically anything else for the battles.
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the secret world has some of the best writing in the medium. shame about the rest of it
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Pigbuster posted:Red Candle's Nine Sols will be released on May 29th. Extremely excited for this. then there's this event on April 10th https://twitter.com/iii_initiative/status/1773394368763695472?s=46&t=tiduNJ3mSs9_gg9ptoqYZA for sure Hyper Light Breaker is gonna be in it, it seems like Streets of Rogue 2 will be in it, most likely new Vampire Survivors content The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Mar 28, 2024 |
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Substandard posted:Yeah my ultimate problem is that I don't like Total War much but I like Warhammer Fantasy and with the big campaign map and all the factions it's the best experience available even if I wish they did basically anything else for the battles. It might be worth trying one of those mods where you hand your troops over to a computer general and watch everything unfold.
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Orv posted:Yeah that's super not what people mean by RTWP. Oh I'm weak alright. I love the Total Warhammer games and have 100s of hours in all of them and all of the DLC besides the last one. I find I prefer playing in a 'chill out and stomp all over the world' manner so sometimes I pause the battles so much it may as well be turn based.
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The Secret World has great writing, music and atmosphere, as well as some very cool puzzle quests. I still have a cool notebook full of drawings and futhark rune translations and whatnot from when I was working through investigations and trying to figure out the lore. Even the MMOish sidequest grinds have good writing that ties into the rest of the game. ...the same MMO grind aspects mean that it takes quite a while to progress through the game though, unfortunately. Also the equipment/ability system is very abstract and weirdly unsatisfying. I kinda wish it got a remaster/reboot, the gameplay does not hold up in 2024
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I had a lifetime subscription to that game 😬
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Fruits of the sea posted:The Secret World has great writing, music and atmosphere, as well as some very cool puzzle quests. I still have a cool notebook full of drawings and futhark rune translations and whatnot from when I was working through investigations and trying to figure out the lore. Even the MMOish sidequest grinds have good writing that ties into the rest of the game. ...the same MMO grind aspects mean that it takes quite a while to progress through the game though, unfortunately. It did! It was worse.
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Orv posted:It did! It was worse. Oh yeah, I played that! Don't think it counts as a reboot though, it was basically the same game but with more mtx.
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The Steve Gaynor-less formerly-Fullbright now-"Open Roads Team" team just silently released their latest game, Open Roads, starring Keri Russell and Kaitlyn Dever. I've had this wishlisted for ages but lost hope for it in the tumult of the studio's last few years. Curious to take a look, will report back. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1497360/Open_Roads/
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roomtwofifteen posted:The Steve Gaynor-less formerly-Fullbright now-"Open Roads Team" team just silently released their latest game, Open Roads, starring Keri Russell and Kaitlyn Dever. I've had this wishlisted for ages but lost hope for it in the tumult of the studio's last few years. Curious to take a look, will report back. This is on Gamepass as well btw
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roomtwofifteen posted:The Steve Gaynor-less formerly-Fullbright now-"Open Roads Team" team just silently released their latest game, Open Roads, starring Keri Russell and Kaitlyn Dever. I've had this wishlisted for ages but lost hope for it in the tumult of the studio's last few years. Curious to take a look, will report back. I'll be trying it this weekend when I have a few free hours to spare. I heard it's pretty short, only 2-3 hours, which is ideal for me right now.
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Age of Mythology/Warcraft 3 mashup Godsworn just went into EA. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1328990/Godsworn/ 
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roomtwofifteen posted:The Steve Gaynor-less formerly-Fullbright now-"Open Roads Team" team just silently released their latest game, Open Roads, starring Keri Russell and Kaitlyn Dever. I've had this wishlisted for ages but lost hope for it in the tumult of the studio's last few years. Curious to take a look, will report back. Oh poo poo I love both of those actresses, that's a heck of a get for such a niche game. edit: ^^^ Oh snap, I really enjoyed the demo for that one, should def scratch the WC3/Age of Mythology itch for anyone hankering for something new but familiar as far as RTSes go.
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Godsworn looks really cool but honestly the stuff they showed of the AoM remake a bit ago has me so hyped that why would I play this at all. Obviously that's a very me problem.
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...Because it's a new game and not one you've played before?
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Substandard posted:Not the combat! Real time with pause is an awful system. I thought we had all agreed on that years ago when we switched over Pathfinder, Pillars of Eternity 2 and Baldur's Gate 3. ancient enemies, we dwell in the shadows, you and I. they think they live their lives, these billionaires, these politicians, these gamers, these children - but really they bleed and die for us. your star is in ascendancy right now, my old foe, but RTwP never sleeps. one of these days you'll grow weary. and I'll be there under the bed. waiting.
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Chadzok posted:one of these days you'll grow weary. and I'll be there under the bed. waiting. Paused.
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I wish I replayed Godsworn on the recent Next Fest - I don't remember my opinion of it from the Fest before that  I guess if I didn't remove it from my Wishlist then it couldn't have been awful.
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Mordja posted:...Because it's a new game and not one you've played before? I'm sorry, I'm not following you here. Jokes aside I feel like there hasn't been an actually good RTS in eons so I'm always wary of indie ones, if anyone wants to report back to the contrary.
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Orv posted:I'm sorry, I'm not following you here. It's simple: you buy the new game you never played, stare at it in your library for a while, then launch the old game you played 200483 times before.
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FishMcCool posted:It's simple: you buy the new game you never played, stare at it in your library for a while, then launch the old game you played 200483 times before. Oh yeah, yeah. I call it Tuesday.
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So despite posting about it, I ain't one for early access, but from the demos of Godsworn I played, it felt a lot more polished that a lot of indie RTS which, I agree, tend to have some really nasty jank on 'em. I was very impressed with something made by a two-person team, but I have no idea if the campaign stuff is any good.
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Mordja posted:Age of Mythology/Warcraft 3 mashup Godsworn just went into EA. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1328990/Godsworn/ Gonna wishlist this, I really hope this turns out good and is eventually finished.
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I wonder if the new Hellgate game will also consider a Playboy spread 'good marketing' the way HG:London did.
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FishMcCool posted:It's simple: you buy the new game you never played, stare at it in your library for a while, then launch the old game you played 200483 times before. Pft, who would do that? Especially with the sale that just passed! 
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Mordja posted:Age of Mythology/Warcraft 3 mashup Godsworn just went into EA. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1328990/Godsworn/
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John Murdoch posted:I mean, even as a single player standalone that still makes it more playable than Marvel Heroes these days. Have you actually played the singleplayer standalone thing? Fruits of the sea posted:Oh yeah, I played that! Don't think it counts as a reboot though, it was basically the same game but with more mtx.
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Fruits of the sea posted:Also the equipment/ability system is very abstract and weirdly unsatisfying. This drove me nuts, because it was so hyped as being incredibly freeform and classless, and in reality that was complete bullshit.
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