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SirSamVimes posted:Is the Seven Deadly Sins DLC worth picking up too?
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HADES 2: As an EA purchaser of the first game who absolutely loved it, I'm actually going to recommend not buying it unfinished. I had a blast in the original and enjoyed myself thoroughly, but by the nature of having mastered old content before new stuff got dropped, the progression - both gameplay and narrative - was kinda jumpy and slightly spoiled. Like a new narrative arc would drop for the early game, but I'm long past all of that and out of new voice lines and so the game would suddenly have that entire plot fast-forwarded at me in the next two runs. Similar things happened with gameplay/mechanics updates, and it was worst of all when 1.0 hit with the huge content update that really didn't mesh well with already-winning main character. Supergiant is going to release Hades2 come hell or high water, it's gonna be amazing, but as much as I love the studio they don't need your funds this time around and you can save yourself for the finished package.
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StrixNebulosa posted:so, for magic the gathering arena, I've decided to engage with what my brother calls "the biggest controversy in magic right now" Too bad you have to ask Post Malone if you can use the One Ring card.
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Waffle! posted:Too bad you have to ask Post Malone if you can use the One Ring card. 
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Pretty much since Early Access became a thing to today I've held the "No Early Access" rule, have not bought a single one. Never will. I mean, the obvious first reason is the game never actually being finished (and steam is littered with such examples), the other is the less obvious one: the game might end up something else entierly from what you thought it was gonna be when you bought it. There is also the bonus third option: you lost interest in it by the time it was complete. For me it's just easier to buy something complete and know what I'm getting than vague promises.
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He bought it for $2 Million when it was found
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TuxedoOrca posted:Pretty much since Early Access became a thing to today I've held the "No Early Access" rule, have not bought a single one. Never will. I'm sure there are early access games that are more like a prototype that's still in early development, but that's clearly not the case with things like Hades 2.
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HopperUK posted:If you look in the steam forums you'll find that actually it's extremely woke literally first thing Herocaitë says is "Hail, Sleep"
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mystes posted:Early access can mean a lot of things, though. If you just stick to games that are already reasonably complete but are marked early access because they will still have more content added or significant balance changes or something, it's not that different from buying a lot of games that aren't marked early access, and probably none of the issues you are talking about will be a concern. Tbh there are a lot of broken games released everyday that should be labeled early access
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my opinion on early access is a bit different bc in the old days, if a dev got screwed over by their publisher, you just got nothing and hoped that someday a prototype ROM got found and dumped by some collector at least in this era you have easy access to the prototype in the event that something happens. I think it would actually be interesting to buy and play a lot of abandoned EA games from a curio standpoint it sucks for the people who initially bought in and ended up left at the altar, but it’s neat to me from a historical and preservation angle. imagine if you could just buy and play the original Prey 2 prototype that was nearly finished, or whatever was made for Megaman Legends 3 before it was axed. E: I mean I wouldn’t like rewarding the publisher with the proceeds but unfortunately that’s capitalism I also get the “changes over time” thing but that also happens with non-EA games, like Borderlands 2 infamously made balance, stat and economy changes post-release to appeal to the super hardcore dorks posting in their forums whining that the game wasn’t hard enough, and that’s why the enemies are such bullet sponges and why raids take forever and are super boring The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 03:04 on May 7, 2024 |
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If a game is actually good enough to tempt me into buying it in early access, I have pretty much no concerns about it not being completed But if you're a degenerate steam buyer I guess it could be dicier
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It would be nice if Valve would enforce some form of standards on what EA is and is not and make it very clear that it is not a finished game, you are not guaranteed a finished game, you should expect bugs, performance issues, missing content, savegame resets, etc. and put that poo poo as a big, explicit warning label on every EA page. The notice currently on the store pages makes no mention of potential problems other than the game "may not change further" while the Learn More link leads to a sales pitch on why EA is rad and exciting. It would also be nice if they would put a reasonable time limit on EA and not let devs charge full, released game prices for broken bullshit but, you know *rubs thumb against fingers*
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Serephina posted:HADES 2: Perfect, this is what I was wondering and just confirming my decision to hold off and play something else  I did buy Hades 2 anyway because these guys seem good for it, but I almost never purchase Early Access/preorder
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If devs weren't allowed to charge full-price for EA games you know they'd all sell at the same price point they are right now and go up 400% when they enter 1.0
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800peepee51doodoo posted:It would be nice if Valve would enforce some form of standards on what EA is and is not and make it very clear that it is not a finished game, you are not guaranteed a finished game, you should expect bugs, performance issues, missing content, savegame resets, etc. and put that poo poo as a big, explicit warning label on every EA page. The notice currently on the store pages makes no mention of potential problems other than the game "may not change further" while the Learn More link leads to a sales pitch on why EA is rad and exciting. It would also be nice if they would put a reasonable time limit on EA and not let devs charge full, released game prices for broken bullshit but, you know *rubs thumb against fingers* Valve? Enforce? That sounds like it would take human labor
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my bold, and perhaps.. iconiclastic take is that the best Early Access games release already feature complete and have responsive devs seeking public feedback for fine tuning mechanics, and squashing nasty bugs, which can lead to sometimes a new direction and a better path forward
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Squiggle posted:It's like...Gothic Morrowind that looks like Nightmare Creatures, buying this immediately It's fantastic, I played to the end of content a couple weeks ago and enjoyed the whole time. I'm looking forward to 1.0, it's good enough that I might just start from zero even if my save works.
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i don't play early access games (my brainworms tell me it's because i only get to play it for the first time once, and i want it to be as a complete game) but i've ended up picking up a few just because i know i'm gonna buy it at release so i might as well let the dev eat now, and when it comes out i've forgotten the money i spent on it so it's like i'm getting it for free. but i also only buy games that are clearly going to be finished, and are being worked on by one person or a very small team who are passionate about the game. idk, i feel like gut feeling more or less always steers me right here. cruelty squad, hrot, lunacid, the last spell, against the storm - all success stories and all fantastic. probably forgot a couple games. ultrakill, death trash, and zero sievert are the ones i'm currently waiting for and i'm more or less 100% sure they'll all come out in 1.0. dread delusion was the same way - i played the demo, was unbelievably impressed, had a look at what the dev said and thought this game is for sure coming out. and here we are 
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Foul Fowl posted:i don't play early access games (my brainworms tell me it's because i only get to play it for the first time once, and i want it to be as a complete game) That's not brain worms, that's just valuing your own time.
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I constantly buy Early Access games. Some of them have been in development for long, some not so much (yet). Usually what's common is I tend to get a lot gametime from them but get burnt out somewhat and don't immediately follow up even when new content is added. I played Valheim 120 hours when it first launched and only this month got around doing some additional content they added (Mistlands). In these kinds of slow burn projects it's sometimes very interesting to see where the game is now comparing to the launch. But I've generally been happy with my purchases even if some games get more content later. Perhaps right now I'm a bit more wary, I want to buy No rest for the wicked, Hades 2 and Ender Magnolias, but they all get reviews saying they'll very likely be better with a bit of time, so I don't mind waiting.
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Serephina posted:That's not brain worms, that's just valuing your own time. i don't value my own time at all when it comes to gaming lol, i'm happy to frivolously waste it if i'm having fun. it's more that it ruins the organic feeling of playing a game, for me. if i played it in early access and then played it again later, i'd know exactly what content is new and what isn't. i wouldn't really engage with the stuff i was replaying because i'd be too excited to play the new stuff, which i wouldn't be stumbling across, but specifically seeking out. i would not be playing the game as a game, but as a theme park with some new rides. the end result would be that i wouldn't really enjoy either as much as i would if i had just waited to play it all for the first time. i love playing games for the first time. it's a completely irreplaceable feeling for me. the brain worms . . . !!!
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Having fun is the opposite of wasting time Unless you’re one of those productivity sigma grindset hustle 24/7 people but I doubt it Edit: playing a game you don’t like much, and maybe not having fun - That might be a waste, you could be playing a better game
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you waste time by being alive so waste it well by playing good games
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Foul Fowl posted:i don't value my own time at all when it comes to gaming lol, i'm happy to frivolously waste it if i'm having fun. Yeah just when gaming, I am otherwise a highly productive and valued member of society
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I am so hyped for Dread Delusion 1.0.
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EA is cool if you're happy with the state of the game as it is at the time you buy it. I don't tend to touch story/exploration games in EA though. For extremes, I'd throw both BG3 and Dread Delusion in that category. That's stuff I want to have a first playthrough in when they're finished, not repeating 14 times the first area and having to do it again when 1.0 hits.
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Speaking of EA games and what they have become, anyone ever played the 1.0 version of PixelJunk: Nom Nom Galaxy from years ago? I wonder if it ever became more than just a weird excerpt of Terraria where you are gathering ingredients to create soup recipes which are then send offworld via rocket ships BUT you also need to occasionally stop attackers who want to demolish your operation.
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Mierenneuker posted:create soup recipes which are then send offworld via rocket ships Forget the game, just blockchain the poo poo up of that concept and that's a few easy millions of dollars in VC money.
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Squiggle posted:It's like...Gothic Morrowind that looks like Nightmare Creatures,  whoa, just noticed this.. Squiggle posted:buying this immediately
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 Curse you, thread!!! I've already got 100 hours in this game, not counting however much I've played on Mobile. Can't decide what Class I want to play this time... I think my only real complaint with this game is, yea there's a million ways you can build a party... But why wouldn't you just go for any of the Turn-Zero-Win builds.
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Sab669 posted:
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Welp https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1787835350745842153?s=46&t=EdcrR5gNtvGhprFQKf8Bmg
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Hey, Microsoft buying up every developer and publisher just means it's going to make the game pass have much more va... oh...
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I guess Redfall's just not going to get those DLC characters people already paid for lol.
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/2128270/Path_of_Achra/ quote:new stuff for version 1.0
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Ragequit posted:Welp Man this sucks real bad.
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So is games industry thread staying closed forever? It's been on a break for more than 5 months
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Sininu posted:So is games industry thread staying closed forever? It's been on a break for more than 5 months Yup, this was decided a while back.
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Not too surprised about Arkane, but didn't Hi-Fi Rush do quite well?
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Kennel posted:Not too surprised about Arkane, but didn't Hi-Fi Rush do quite well? I haven't seen the numbers but Character Action games don't sell. Unless you're DMC5.
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