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Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

devmd01 posted:

In college I used that utility that can set the lcd text on HP printers on a lot of the printers on campus. Nothing offensive, just silly stuff like “feed me,” etc.

The printer admin lost his poo poo “because we were being hacked” and started working on locking the printers down so they would only receive jobs from the print server. Thankfully I was a student IT worker, heard about it, and fessed up so he wouldn’t go through all that work.
When I went back to finish my undergrad one of the Chinese students I knew found an app that controlled all the projectors the place used. He didn't seem to realise that messing with that during a lecture would really annoy the lecturers. He also didn't realise that being the only looking at your phone rather than going "WTF?" was a great way to get caught.

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tokenbrownguy
Apr 1, 2010

I was in my doctors' waiting room when the front desk minder was all "tbg, hey you're an IT guy right? We've got a printer problem. Want to barter for some of your appointment expenses?"

connect to printer via IP, fixed in 2 mins. fastest fifty bucks I ever made. inshallah they never need my help again, been about six months.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

I'm always offended when someone looks at me and is like "yo you look like you work in IT".

Da gently caress.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

tokenbrownguy posted:

I was in my doctors' waiting room when the front desk minder was all "tbg, hey you're an IT guy right? We've got a printer problem. Want to barter for some of your appointment expenses?"

connect to printer via IP, fixed in 2 mins. fastest fifty bucks I ever made. inshallah they never need my help again, been about six months.
Knowing what medical care costs the places where they charge for it, you got ripped off bad.

tokenbrownguy
Apr 1, 2010

I'm the rare goon with medical insurance, it was just the copays for like three appointments I think.

back on topic, gently caress Zebra label printers. I hate them so much. gently caress you receiving guy, you don't need these.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

tokenbrownguy posted:

I'm the rare goon with medical insurance, it was just the copays for like three appointments I think.

back on topic, gently caress Zebra label printers. I hate them so much. gently caress you receiving guy, you don't need these.

I supported maybe 50 of them for 20 years. What's up?



FYI it's not IT's job to replace labels. I hope IT doesnt have to create labels either cause gently caress that.

Diqnol
May 10, 2010

GreenNight posted:

I supported maybe 50 of them for 20 years. What's up?



FYI it's not IT's job to replace labels. I hope IT doesnt have to create labels either cause gently caress that.

They made it my job in the past. It is indeed poo poo

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008

GreenNight posted:

I'm always offended when someone looks at me and is like "yo you look like you work in IT".

Da gently caress.

I was walking into a hospital one time to visit my Mom. I still had my badge on from work, at a place totally unrelated. Someone near the entrance said "Oh, are you from IT here to fix the computer?" I say "Nope" and keep walking. They start following me and start explaining the problem. We got pretty far before I turned around to say "No, I seriously don't work here." I can't imagine what miserable fucks work in the IT department there.

I hate the people who have "fun" that way with strangers. If we know each other I'll allow a "You guys workin hard or hardly workin?"

Serperoth
Feb 21, 2013




tokenbrownguy posted:

I was in my doctors' waiting room when the front desk minder was all "tbg, hey you're an IT guy right? We've got a printer problem. Want to barter for some of your appointment expenses?"

connect to printer via IP, fixed in 2 mins. fastest fifty bucks I ever made. inshallah they never need my help again, been about six months.

All I can think of is the front desk minder in an RPG, spending a resource to say" the patient waiting is an IT guy, he can help with the printer"

TBG has entered the printer configuration

guppy
Sep 21, 2004

sting like a byob
That seems like a very fair trade, everyone walked away from that a winner.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


tokenbrownguy posted:

I'm the rare goon with medical insurance, it was just the copays for like three appointments I think.

back on topic, gently caress Zebra label printers. I hate them so much. gently caress you receiving guy, you don't need these.

I want to ask if you work with me, but I know those damned things are everywhere. We use a big one at each location for asset tags, and a little one for UPS labels.

guppy
Sep 21, 2004

sting like a byob
I don't see a VoIP thread or a Teams thread or anything, so I'm asking in here: anyone have good familiarity with Teams Direct Routing stuff? We actually have Direct Routing set up and working, in the sense that we can make calls in and out between Teams and regular phones, but we discovered a new wrinkle: when we call a Teams-enabled phone number, it rings in the app, but doesn't also ring on the physical handset.

We have a large existing VoIP deployment, Cisco top-to-bottom. CUCM is handling the calls, our physical handsets are Cisco devices, our SBC is a Cisco CUBE. It was designed by a very experienced VoIP engineer who is unfortunately no longer with us, and our current VoIP person is not as experienced. I see that Cisco handsets do not show up on the "Teams-certified devices" list, but I'm being told that that can't be the problem because... to be honest, I don't remember why they told me that can't be the problem, I think because it's "just" a VoIP call. Critically, I am not a VoIP person, but we have a small team and I'm trying to learn as I go so I can help out.

This is pretty hard to Google since you get a variety of related but different issues. Would love to be pointed in the right direction, even just knowing which piece is the likely culprit would be a big help so I could start looking in the right place. My guess is CUCM, assuming the other people are right that it doesn't matter that the Cisco phones aren't Teams-certified.

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

guppy posted:

I don't see a VoIP thread or a Teams thread or anything, so I'm asking in here: anyone have good familiarity with Teams Direct Routing stuff? We actually have Direct Routing set up and working, in the sense that we can make calls in and out between Teams and regular phones, but we discovered a new wrinkle: when we call a Teams-enabled phone number, it rings in the app, but doesn't also ring on the physical handset.

We have a large existing VoIP deployment, Cisco top-to-bottom. CUCM is handling the calls, our physical handsets are Cisco devices, our SBC is a Cisco CUBE. It was designed by a very experienced VoIP engineer who is unfortunately no longer with us, and our current VoIP person is not as experienced. I see that Cisco handsets do not show up on the "Teams-certified devices" list, but I'm being told that that can't be the problem because... to be honest, I don't remember why they told me that can't be the problem, I think because it's "just" a VoIP call. Critically, I am not a VoIP person, but we have a small team and I'm trying to learn as I go so I can help out.

This is pretty hard to Google since you get a variety of related but different issues. Would love to be pointed in the right direction, even just knowing which piece is the likely culprit would be a big help so I could start looking in the right place. My guess is CUCM, assuming the other people are right that it doesn't matter that the Cisco phones aren't Teams-certified.

I would take a wild guess on the sbc being set up to mirror incoming flows (to make both endpoints ring) so the teams to teams calls don't go thru the SBC and you don't get the phones woken up. You can game the system by playing with the teams call plans so that you always go thru the sbc but it has caveats. Can you check what model of handsets you have? You can enroll certain conventional cisco cucm phones in teams using the sip gateway feature.

chin up everything sucks
Jan 29, 2012

Went in for an interview at the local Native American Casino for an IT Helpdesk Supervisor position, meet with both the IT Director and IT Manager.

10 minutes in, the IT Director goes "Is there a reason you applied to this position instead of the Application Support Engineer?"

I mean, yes. Largely in that I didn't see the Application Support Engineer position because no word in that job title matches anything I have been searching on. They pull up the job posting and show it to me, and it's honestly a good match. "Sure, I'll apply to that position after this interview."

They just go "oh we can just do it now" and suddenly the interview is for a different position that I hadn't prepared for. I mean, it sounds interesting and it's more involved in fixing issues than the helpdesk manager one was going to be. That's a plus in my books, I like digging into weird issues. Downside is the pay range is slightly lower.

Still, I'm a bit astounded at that happening, and I'm not sure what to think about it. I'm assuming that means they don't want me for the manager position, but is it a strong thing in my favor for the support engineer position?

Sywert of Thieves
Nov 7, 2005

The pirate code is really more of a guideline, than actual rules.

Sywert of Thieves posted:

Anyway this laptop is super locked down, and I can't even boot from my thumbdrive or get into the BIOS. Upgrading the ram also seems impossible. It's perfect for ChromeOS!

e: update I got into the bios and it's installing ChromeOS Flex now. Suck it, HP.

Almost forgot to update the thread on this boring issue of mine. Everything worked out fine and it works great, except for the one problem that you can't enable "login by pin" on ChromeOS on unofficial hardware. Now I have to either change my kids' Google passwords to something they can memorize, or let them have safe passwords.

So far I haven't found a way to hack it so pin login is enabled.

Thanks, cynical buttholes! :buddy:

Happiness Commando
Feb 1, 2002
$$ joy at gunpoint $$

chin up everything sucks posted:

Still, I'm a bit astounded at that happening, and I'm not sure what to think about it. I'm assuming that means they don't want me for the manager position, but is it a strong thing in my favor for the support engineer position?

Yeah, they don't want you as the manager and they think you fit much better as a support engineer

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


guppy posted:

I don't see a VoIP thread or a Teams thread or anything, so I'm asking in here: anyone have good familiarity with Teams Direct Routing stuff? We actually have Direct Routing set up and working, in the sense that we can make calls in and out between Teams and regular phones, but we discovered a new wrinkle: when we call a Teams-enabled phone number, it rings in the app, but doesn't also ring on the physical handset.

We have a large existing VoIP deployment, Cisco top-to-bottom. CUCM is handling the calls, our physical handsets are Cisco devices, our SBC is a Cisco CUBE. It was designed by a very experienced VoIP engineer who is unfortunately no longer with us, and our current VoIP person is not as experienced. I see that Cisco handsets do not show up on the "Teams-certified devices" list, but I'm being told that that can't be the problem because... to be honest, I don't remember why they told me that can't be the problem, I think because it's "just" a VoIP call. Critically, I am not a VoIP person, but we have a small team and I'm trying to learn as I go so I can help out.

This is pretty hard to Google since you get a variety of related but different issues. Would love to be pointed in the right direction, even just knowing which piece is the likely culprit would be a big help so I could start looking in the right place. My guess is CUCM, assuming the other people are right that it doesn't matter that the Cisco phones aren't Teams-certified.

I am fairly sure there is no such thing as an "internal" Teams PSTN call - if you call the number in a Teams client that exists in that Teams tenant then it doesn't get sent out to the SBC. The same way that internal emails don't go to the server listed on the MX records.

We had this with Teams integrated into 8x8 - people on Teams were placing calls to the 8x8 numbers which were also provisioned as the Direct Routing numbers, and Teams never sent them out. Possibly you can work around this by moving to extension numbers in Teams so that calling the full number has to go to the SBC, but it's a bit of a horrible option and it doesn't solve for people picking a contact in Teams by name and just calling it.

The easiest way to test this theory is to get the relevant traces set up in the Cisco side so you can see a Teams user calling an outside number, and then have them dial a number that is assigned to another Teams user, you probably won't even see the call.

If you are just looking for a way to utilise the Cisco phones then look at the SIP Gateway service.

Thanks Ants fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Apr 10, 2024

chin up everything sucks
Jan 29, 2012

Well that moved fast - job offer has already come in, and salary negotiation has begun. :yotj:

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





YOTJ! YOTJ!

pointlessone
Aug 6, 2001

The Triad Frog is pleased with this custom title purchase.

Love to see it happen :yotj:

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


especially when the iob market has been so rough for so many lately

guppy
Sep 21, 2004

sting like a byob
Thanks for the Teams advice. This is Direct Routing, so it is not Teams-to-Teams per se. They figured it out, it had to do with the objects being in the same partition in CUCM.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


tokenbrownguy posted:

I'm the rare goon with medical insurance, it was just the copays for like three appointments I think.

back on topic, gently caress Zebra label printers. I hate them so much. gently caress you receiving guy, you don't need these.

being a subset of printers, and also more specifically having had to do something i don't remember the specifics of whatever the gently caress it was i had to do to get some of these bastards working, i think it was some insanity with templates, i agree

sfwarlock
Aug 11, 2007
What is it about sitting at a computer that makes people's brains stop working? We have a third-party service that will integrate with AD for SSO Real Soon Now, but in the meantime people need to log in separately.

(Insert separate rant here about how I'm just a cruel arrogant sadist who loves to torture people by asking them politely not to "just reuse 'their' password" for logging onto a third-party service. )

Every 90 days, the service requires 2fa - that is, it sends a code to the email address that needs to be entered along with the password.

The words "A code was sent to user@company.com by email. Enter it here:" appeared on his screen in plain English. All they have to do is read the words that re in front of them and do what it says. Yet what do we get. "Logon to Paragon system broken."

"What's wrong?"

"It doesn't work."

"Please specify any error messages?"

cc: my boss, my boss's boss, user's boss "IT DOES NOT WORK FIX IT NOW two pages of explaining why it is vitally important for him to access this system"

I send the minion (whenever my blood pressure gets to the point I can feel it in my ears, I send the minion).

According to what he said before he left for a long lunch:

user: ITS BROKEN FIX IT

minion: "It sent a code to your email, check there?"

user: *blank stare* ITS BROKEN FIX IT

minion: "Can you open your email and enter the code?"

minion: *types their email address into the place where the website wants the code*

user: ITS BROKEN FIX IT

minion: *reaches past user, clicks on outlook, clicks on the latest (of ten) emails

minion: "See, it sent you a code, it just wanted that code."

user: *fifteen feet back with arms crossed* WHY IS THIS SO DIFFICULT. DO YOU ENJOY MAKING THIS HARDER. DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND THIS IS IMPORTANT

minion: "It's just once every 90 days. It's required for security."

user: FINE. WHATEVER. JUST DO THE THING SO I CAN WORK.

minion: *shows them how to enter the code and leaves*

I went and checked. There's a postit on the user's monitor now: PARAGON CODE 50302939

sfwarlock fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Apr 15, 2024

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

sfwarlock posted:

I went and checked. There's a postit on the user's monitor now: PARAGON CODE 50302939
I hope you report the petulant child for risking security.

sfwarlock
Aug 11, 2007
Oh, it's not even that. The code was only useful that once and expires five minutes after it's sent. They're just that unclear on the concept.

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

sfwarlock posted:

Oh, it's not even that. The code was only useful that once and expires five minutes after it's sent. They're just that unclear on the concept.
Ohh yyeaaahhh lmao yeah I took that as his new password or something. Amazing.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



90 days from now, they'll be brandishing that postit in your face: IT'S BROKEN FIX IT

sfwarlock
Aug 11, 2007

Data Graham posted:

90 days from now, they'll be brandishing that postit in your face: IT'S BROKEN FIX IT

And screaming at us for changing the code. And telling us how important this is.

I have fantasies sometimes of just saying what's actually on my mind.

me: "Well, it's physically impossible for us to solve this ticket due to x,y,z."

user: "Rawr but this is important! It's violating FERPA! It's affecting patient care! I'm calling your boss!"

me: "Oh, well now that you've told me it's important, and you've threatened me with my boss, I guess I'll actually do it instead of playing Minecraft for the rest of the afternoon like I was planning." pause "Oh, no, wait, still out of my hands. Sorry not sorry. Now leave me alone, I'm playing minecraft until people get back to me."

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe
I have to go through all that once a year with about half of my forklift drivers when their w2 gets released online.

They don’t use computers on a daily basis, so I don’t know what your doctor’s excuse is.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




We're a manufacturing site. We had to do a whole major project to deal with user profile proliferation on the shared PCs the clean room techs use to do their required trainings. I am deeply grateful that someone else had to write the GPOs for that mess.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

sfwarlock posted:

It's affecting patient care!
This is the point where I realised why you're having this level of obstinate incompetence.

sfwarlock
Aug 11, 2007

Arquinsiel posted:

This is the point where I realised why you're having this level of obstinate incompetence.

Actually, no,. Just one of the many things people have screamed at me over the last two+ decades thinking it's the magic password to turn me from "Lazy IT Fuckup" to "Understanding The Greater Context Of The Problem And Actually Putting Effort Into It".

What I despise is people thinking they have to find some sort of secret magic password for me to do my job. Thinking that I ignore tickets until someone tells me the problem is actually important. ("Oh, you mean it's a PROBLEM that shipping can't print labels and can't ship any product? Golly gee whiz, I had no idea! Why, I guess I will come fix that!")

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
That's what I was angling at. There are people who genuinely believe that there are magic codes that do everything. Just zero understanding of the world and a wild sense of entitlement. I have told the story in one of these threads before about the guy who called me in my Xbox support days after bodging two broken consoles into one working DVD player and wanted the magic code to make it run Xbox 360 games again. Flat out refused to believe me that such a thing did not exist.

dragonshardz
May 2, 2017

some people read "computers are magic" and take it way too literally

First of May
May 1, 2017
🎵 Bring your favorite lady, or at least your favorite lay! 🎵


Me: what do you think about this minor policy change that will reduce overhead and delays for this 50 person team and our customers, without affecting current procedures or workload for your team?

Department head: we can't consider or acknowledge that request until you implement my suggestion for reducing the workload for my 3 person team.

Me: your suggestion is just to implement half of the original suggestion, but in a way that doesn't address the reason why the request was made or help the other team in any way. Any thoughts?

Them: thanks!

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


I'm finally calling it Entra without having to think about it, so that means we're due for another name change

TheParadigm
Dec 10, 2009

dragonshardz posted:

some people read "computers are magic" and take it way too literally

The sorcery is in the clouds!!

JPrime
Jul 4, 2007

tales of derring-do, bad and good luck tales!
College Slice

TheParadigm posted:

The sorcery is in the clouds!!

we used to specialize in on-premises wizardry but nowadays no one is doing that

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TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




I pronounce the first syllable of Entra the same as Entry, but not long ago I was helping someone with MS Authenticator and they said their account was labeled awn-tra.

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