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cr0y posted:This might be arguable as to whether or not it's United States current events but bolsonaro is holed up in Florida with Jose Aldo? It's theatre. This way, his people back home can be all "omg Lula is SO BAD you guys Bolsonaro had to flee the country for his life we must fight back"
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Nazis used to flee to South America, smdh
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It must be so weird to just walk into your local chicken restaurant and boom, murdering dictator. I am not sure how I would react or, to be completely honest if I would recognize him without context.
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Jan 2, 2023 16:02
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What if I told you the House Rules package is dumb as hell? https://twitter.com/ddayen/status/1609925394425339906 The fuckers have implemented a second leg of dynamic scoring. In essence: Tax cuts reduce the deficits because (noninflationary) "economic growth". Spending is inflationary and thus increase the deficits twice - once for the initial spend and once for the "economic contraction" caused by the inflation. Paul Ryan is deeply jealous he never thought of this.
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Nenonen posted:Nazis used to flee to South America, smdh Well, when "Is fascism evil?" is a genuine question for many Americans, it is quite the fertile ground.
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Jan 2, 2023 16:28
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Fighting Trousers posted:It's theatre. This way, his people back home can be all "omg Lula is SO BAD you guys Bolsonaro had to flee the country for his life we must fight back" I mean, if you're hiding out in Orlando poo poo's bad. Let alone the entire country, Orlando isn't even the least bad choice in Florida to lay low. I mean, it's not Jacksonville dire, but it's not good.
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Jan 2, 2023 16:33
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Paracaidas posted:What if I told you the House Rules package is dumb as hell? They’re going to sink the economy to try and blame Biden without realizing nobody loving likes them and will know it was them!
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Jan 2, 2023 16:37
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For these rules to matter, they'd actually have to pass legislation that also has to pass the Senate right?
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Raenir Salazar posted:For these rules to matter, they'd actually have to pass legislation that also has to pass the Senate right? The problem is they will use "this will triple the debt, look at our awful report that makes no sense" to not do basic things like fund the government.
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Yawgmoft posted:The problem is they will use "this will triple the debt, look at our awful report that makes no sense" to not do basic things like fund the government. I think this only really makes sense if Dems ever got a chance to propose a bill; I don't think this will be effective for continuing resolutions; for anything where the alternative is "the government defaults or closes" Republicans will cave.
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Yawgmoft posted:The problem is they will use "this will triple the debt, look at our awful report that makes no sense" to not do basic things like fund the government. They were going to do that anyway and their language / tactics / etc should never be given an ounce of consideration. It's just fascist monkey noises and always has been.
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Victar posted:1 person dead, 9 injured (some severely) in a New Year's Eve mass shooting in Alabama. Edit: lmao quote:“It would give some comfort to all of us downtown that this was not just a random shooting,” Prine said World Famous W fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Jan 2, 2023 |
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:They were going to do that anyway and their language / tactics / etc should never be given an ounce of consideration. It's just fascist monkey noises and always has been. You know that, I know that. The news carrying their talking points to the public verbatim as if they are 100% real as they wring their hands about debt means a vast majority of people who do not know that will just know scary number bad.
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Jan 2, 2023 21:30
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ninjahedgehog posted:Dude starts with the assumption that nothing bad can ever possibly be his fault and works backwards from there, at the cost of every single friend, easily verifiable history and even basic laws of logic It's the narcissism plus the chronic inability to shut the gently caress up and avoid the spotlight in any context whatsoever.
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Jan 2, 2023 22:25
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How likely is it that a Democrat will end up as Speaker simply because no Republican would get enough votes?
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Absurd Alhazred posted:How likely is it that a Democrat will end up as Speaker simply because no Republican would get enough votes? Zero
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Absurd Alhazred posted:How likely is it that a Democrat will end up as Speaker simply because no Republican would get enough votes? Or mass vacancies could occur and Dems could net enough seats in special elections to flip the House. So, also 0%
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Jan 3, 2023 00:41
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So is McCarthy going to have to give fellatio daily to Matt Gaetz to become and keep the speakership? Apparently he's signing all sorts of devil's bargains to become speaker.
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Jan 3, 2023 00:59
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Gyges posted:I mean, if you're hiding out in Orlando poo poo's bad. Let alone the entire country, Orlando isn't even the least bad choice in Florida to lay low. I mean, it's not Jacksonville dire, but it's not good. St. Augustine is getting worse by the day as well and rapidly ruining everything I ever liked about it. Mostly just due to nothing more complex than naked greed and over development. We're on a "let's become Daytona" speedrun.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:How likely is it that a Democrat will end up as Speaker simply because no Republican would get enough votes? You need a majority of the votes so the Republicans who didn’t vote for McCarthy would have to vote dem or abstain for this to happen.
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smackfu posted:You need a majority of the votes so the Republicans who didn’t vote for McCarthy would have to vote dem or abstain for this to happen. I'm not talking a Dem running head-to-head against McCarthy, I mean after he loses and the House members decide what to do next.
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Cimber posted:So is McCarthy going to have to give fellatio daily to Matt Gaetz to become and keep the speakership? Apparently he's signing all sorts of devil's bargains to become speaker. McCarthy is too old for Gertz ?
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Jan 3, 2023 01:28
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I'm not talking a Dem running head-to-head against McCarthy, I mean after he loses and the House members decide what to do next. The best case scenario for Dems is that they ally with a moderate Republican caucus to elect a member of that caucus speaker. The chances are still basically zero.
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evilweasel posted:The best case scenario for Dems is that they ally with a moderate Republican caucus to elect a member of that caucus speaker. The chances are still basically zero. I'm imagining a reverse of what was going on for years in the New York Senate, where the IDC caucused with Republicans.
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evilweasel posted:The best case scenario for Dems is that they ally with a moderate Republican caucus to elect a member of that caucus speaker. The chances are still basically zero. Problem Solvers, your moment is now.
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This is interesting: basically suggesting people don't actually plan to go to the mat for Kevin: https://twitter.com/semafor/status/1610074008698896384?s=46&t=tJU0onu5MzaWp-RjYj4cZg
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Jan 3, 2023 02:53
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evilweasel posted:This is interesting: basically suggesting people don't actually plan to go to the mat for Kevin: Who the hell else even wants the job?
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But, don't you see? If we have proportional representation with multiple parties, things will be too fractured and the government will be stuck at a permanent impasse!
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Republicans posted:Who the hell else even wants the job? ...Hakeem Jeffries? 
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Republicans posted:Who the hell else even wants the job? https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1610054991498338305
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Republicans posted:Who the hell else even wants the job? ol’ one ball himself, McCarthy’s loyal #2 Scalise
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Here comes Stevie with his pecker in his hand, he's a one ball man and he's off to the rodeo!
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Republicans posted:Who the hell else even wants the job? Andy Biggs, the current chair of the Freedom Caucus, appears to be the main challenger right now. It's unlikely that he has any real path to the speakership, but he seems to be well aware of that. The idea is that if they manage to block McCarthy long enough, someone else will inevitably be persuaded to enter the race, and I suspect the Freedom Caucus don't really care who as long as it's someone to the right of McCarthy. The important part is that they demonstrate their power and influence by knocking McCarthy out of the race. The punditry seem to think Steve Scalise will be the one to pop up if McCarthy fails, since he's a highly-placed House GOP member who's acceptable to the Freedom Caucus as well as the moderates. But McCarthy's loyalists are reportedly pissed off at the Freedom Caucus blatantly flexing like this, so it's possible they might make things more complicated. Ultimately, it comes down to how much each faction is willing to dig in their heels and gently caress with their rivals' picks out of sheer petty spite. I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much, since the moderate factions aren't usually that stubborn, but the GOP's narrow House margin holds a lot of potential for hilarity.
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evilweasel posted:ol’ one ball himself, McCarthy’s loyal #2 Scalise Not sure if the Republicans are ready for 2 years minimum of "GOP-led House has no balls"-based headlines. Main Paineframe posted:
No idea why they'd even be surprised, the Freedom/Sedition/Raiders of the Tortilla Coast caucus has always tried to find ways to blow things up.
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dumb question but is the speaker actually needed / a thing that's said in Da American Paper Bible, Da Constitution?
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PhazonLink posted:dumb question but is the speaker actually needed / a thing that's said in Da American Paper Bible, Da Constitution? Yes quote:If the first ballot fails to provide a speaker, lawmakers will continue to vote until a candidate receives a majority. Members can vote for different candidates each ballot.
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rank-choice voting eh? edit for some non white noise. like I get there needs to be structure for bring bills up and stuff, but maybe it should just default to a first in first out pile/pipe line type deal.
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Main Paineframe posted:He's in California, so it's not like he has any real shot at getting elected to the Senate unless he moves to another state, which he can't really do because his political climb has been dependent on building up connections and patronage over a period of decades. And as long as the presidential candidates are coming from the Trump wing, all his old connections are gonna be worthless for getting him appointed positions. Kevin McCarthy came out of nowhere and torched his ambitions the first time around, let’s be clear
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Why does the Speaker have to be 218? Why can't it be just simple \/\/\/ Plurality, thanks. Young Freud fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Jan 3, 2023 |
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Young Freud posted:Why does the Speaker have to be 218? Why can't it be just simple majority? Seems like the party with the most cohesion and unity should be the ones to run things. 218 is a simple majority. Do you mean a plurality?
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