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BIG-DICK-BUTT-FUCK
Jan 26, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

LeeMajors posted:

But to be a complete realist out of hospital cardiac arrest generally has something like a 0.4% survival rate.

maybe for unwitnessed events. It's like 10% surivval to hospital discharg for people who experience witnessed cardiac arrests and undergo CPR. Likely higher for this guy since he's young and doesnt have other comorbidities

This was probably the best possible circumstqnces to suffer a cardiac arrest .. young healthy guy undergoes shockable malignant rhythm, gets Immediate medical attention/CPR/AED and swift transport to top tier hospital. It'll be a few days until they can prognosticate, all the sedation involved in the post-arrest cooling takes a while to clear out and you cant assess neuro effectively until then

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BIG-DICK-BUTT-FUCK
Jan 26, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
they might have done CPR for longer than necessary bc they couldn't find a pulse, not that there wasn't one. A weak thready pulse can be tough to detect by feel alone

that's the optimistic take. 8 minutes of CPR isn't "stick a fork in him" by any means but that's longer than you'd hope to see.

BIG-DICK-BUTT-FUCK
Jan 26, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

SpaceDrake posted:

I am a little surprised that they allowed him to wake up while intubated. Like I absolutely get wanted to check his neurological status (and thank god it's great news) but holy poo poo I do not envy him being intubated while conscious for, what now, it'll be hours at a time potentially? I'd go spare or ask to just be KO'd again.

its basically standard of care to do daily "sedation vacations" for patients on ventilator + sedation. You cut the sedation/analgesia, let them wake up a bit and usually pair it with trial of (mostly) unassisted breathing. Hopefully they are able to keep breathing on their own without issue and you can think about extubating them. If they dont pass, you resume ventilator support and sedation, maybe at a little lower dose, and try again tomorrow. It's fairly laborious for nursing and respiratory staff so it doesnt always get done but patients who undergo daily sedation vacation and weaning trial get extubated quicker and have better outcomes overall.

being intubated and sedated is really bad for short and long term outcomes so you wanna get it out as soon as possible. A young guy who doesn't have any lung pathology, they're gonna be fairly aggressive in their attempts to extubate

BIG-DICK-BUTT-FUCK
Jan 26, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

hobbesmaster posted:

In addition to everything else “critical condition” isn’t a specific medical term and doesn’t have a universal definition.

that's not really true, everyone uses the same AHA guidelines

quote:

Undetermined - Patient is awaiting physician and/or assessment.
Good - Vital signs are stable and within normal limits. Patient is conscious and comfortable. Indicators are excellent.
Fair - Vital signs are stable and within normal limits. Patient is conscious, but may be uncomfortable. Indicators are favorable.
Serious - Vital signs may be unstable and not within normal limits. Patient is acutely ill. Indicators are questionable.
Critical - Vital signs are unstable and not within normal limits. Patient may be unconscious. Indicators are unfavorable.
Treated and Released – This could mean the patient was sent home or to another facility.
Confirming patient deaths – We will report or confirm a patient’s death only after signed consent from next of kin.

in this case, he's probably considered 'critical' bc he's on a vasoactive medication to regulate his cardiac functioning. Or maybe he's on some kind of monitoring that's only available in the ICU like arterial blood pressure monitoring. Or maybe they're keeping him in the ICU for no good reason at all.

BIG-DICK-BUTT-FUCK
Jan 26, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Kangra posted:

I can't believe they cleared his heart to be with the team, especially with him staying at home. Hope some doctor here can clarify if that's safe in his current condition.

his care team is intimately familiar w his condition and is in the best position to guide the speed of his recovery, what additional insight is an armchair MD gonna provide lol

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