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There is a way to cheese Talon's Cucco game at the ranch - the regular Cucco's keep their position when the super Cucco's fly off so if you stash all the regular Cuccos behind the counter on Talon's right then only the Super Cucco's will be hanging out in the main area. Not that you really need this but it's a fun cheese.
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Feb 15, 2023 01:09
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Can't believe you missed showing off the thirst bar and how it goes away after you drink the lon lon ranch milk
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Feb 15, 2023 02:43
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You got a pretty good discount on the Hylian Shield there, but you didn't need to spend anything at all. There's a free shield in the Kakariko Graveyard under the tombstone marked with the flowers.
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Feb 15, 2023 03:39
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CapnPooch posted:There is a way to cheese Talon's Cucco game at the ranch - the regular Cucco's keep their position when the super Cucco's fly off so if you stash all the regular Cuccos behind the counter on Talon's right then only the Super Cucco's will be hanging out in the main area. This is cool, but it seems like a lot of work. Surely it'd be quicker to just play the game a couple times. Commander Keene posted:You got a pretty good discount on the Hylian Shield there, but you didn't need to spend anything at all. There's a free shield in the Kakariko Graveyard under the tombstone marked with the flowers. Yeah I considered doing it that way, but I wanted to show off that the discount isn't just flavor text. And plus we had to play the treasure chest game.
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Feb 17, 2023 17:31
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FrenzyTheKillbot posted:This is cool, but it seems like a lot of work. Surely it'd be quicker to just play the game a couple times. I tried it once and yeah, pretty much. It takes longer to cheese it than to do it normally unless you're having a lot of trouble chicken hunting. It's kind of fun to "cheat" though.
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Feb 17, 2023 21:17
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It's emergent gameplay you philistines
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Feb 18, 2023 12:20
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You can move *some* cuccos for the benefit of making it possible to pick up more of the remaining candidates in the time, without needing to bother shifting them all. That's probably the best use of time/rupees.
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Feb 18, 2023 12:33
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Good Let's Play! I just caught up and had some things I wanted to mention about mechanics since I love OOT mechanics. You say that the stick is useless for fighting at some point but fun fact, it actually does twice the damage that the Kokiri Sword does! Jump slashes also do twice the damage and crouch stabbing does the same damage as your last attack so if you do a jump slash with a stick you can then crouch stab for 8x the damage of a regular sword slash! This is not at all necessary for regular fights but it's a fun mechanic. FrenzyTheKillbot posted:06 - The Graveyard[/url] There is actually a way to light the torches in the composer's grave at thus point but it requires a glitch. Would people like a short video showing off some glitches that can be done by this point in the game without spoiling what's coming up? If you freeze the ReDead (also, the Zombies are named ReDead which is an amazing name) in the graveyard you get a chest. Dampe digging is indeed completely random and the bane of many speedruns. EP. 07 RE: Cuccos - They actually always land at the same place, knowing this made it about a million times easier for me to beat it. And there is a very very subtle difference in how they move but I can't see it and don't remember what it is. There are 100 Gold Skulltulas in the game. Spoiled in case you don't want to know for whatever reason. And RE Song order in the menu from the latest video: I think they assumed you'd go get Saria's song in the forest after Deku Tree and that's why there's an empty slot. Hope this post doesn't come off as too  I just like OoT minutia
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Feb 21, 2023 12:36
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Man with Hat posted:Good Let's Play! I just caught up and had some things I wanted to mention about mechanics since I love OOT mechanics. Shame the stick breaks after a single hit.
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Feb 21, 2023 20:21
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BlazetheInferno posted:Shame the stick breaks after a single hit. But, you can glitch it to the half-stick by jump slashing a wall at a certain angle. Then you have an infinite stick, although it's rather short.
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Feb 21, 2023 21:36
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 08 - Death Mountain Link finally climbs up Death Mountain and meets the Gorons. Man with Hat posted:You say that the stick is useless for fighting at some point but fun fact, it actually does twice the damage that the Kokiri Sword does! Jump slashes also do twice the damage and crouch stabbing does the same damage as your last attack so if you do a jump slash with a stick you can then crouch stab for 8x the damage of a regular sword slash! This is not at all necessary for regular fights but it's a fun mechanic. BlazetheInferno posted:Shame the stick breaks after a single hit. I actually didn't know it did that much more damage. The annoyance of them breaking always made me not use them for anything other than torch lighting. I'll have to see if I can find a good time to try it out.
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Feb 22, 2023 00:01
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I...don't think I ever realised that short-cut could be used to save time in getting back to Kokiri Forest when doing the main quest. Pretty sure I always just hoofed it back there via Hyrule Plains instead of taking the shortcut from Goron City.
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Feb 22, 2023 04:33
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I always just save and reset to start back at Link's house.
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Feb 22, 2023 07:11
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BlazetheInferno posted:Shame the stick breaks after a single hit. That's why I also brought up the mechanics of crouch stabbing. Jump slash the air with the stick, crouch stab with the sword for 8x damage. No broken stick, a billion extra damage. But you can also kill a ReDead with a single stick with a jumpslash, for example, which might be worth it at certain points. And also, as Odd Wilson mentioned, there are glitches around this but with just a sword and a shield you can crouch stab away all day glitchless. Edit: A little fact about the latest video is that not only is your stick timer reset when you light a torch, all timed fires have their timer reset! Man with Hat fucked around with this message at 09:35 on Feb 22, 2023 |
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Feb 22, 2023 08:48
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Man with Hat posted:But you can also kill a ReDead with a single stick with a jumpslash, for example, which might be worth it at certain points. Yeah this sounds like the use case I was looking for. OHKOing Redeads sounds dope to me.
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Feb 24, 2023 02:03
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Man with Hat posted:And also, as Odd Wilson mentioned, there are glitches around this but with just a sword and a shield you can crouch stab away all day glitchless. I'm pretty sure crouch-stabbing keeping the previous attack's damage is a glitch.
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Feb 24, 2023 03:29
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whitehelm posted:I'm pretty sure crouch-stabbing keeping the previous attack's damage is a glitch. In the speedrun community, glitches are not well-defined. It's often something like: "If it's a mechanic included in the game but the damage calculation happens to be busted that is okay for glitchless categories, if it's a completely unintended mechanic it isn't". But more often than not this definition is based on "would it make the category more fun? Then allow it."
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Feb 24, 2023 08:46
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 09 - The Lost Woods Link heads back to his old stomping grounds and visits his best friend.
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Mar 1, 2023 01:17
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whitehelm posted:I'm pretty sure crouch-stabbing keeping the previous attack's damage is a glitch. I'd call it a weird programming thing since it's just how an intentionally built in attack works. Probably a programming oversight but this is all semantics and doesn't really matter at the end of the day. The point is it's easy as hell to do and fun and rad. That Ocarina Play along game is the second worst mini game in the entirety of OoT. Takes forever and three times is way too much. Good job getting through it on the first try, I have to write down the 8 note one Saria's Song also lets you talk to Navi! Works if you've forgotten where to go or missed something she said in one of her timed prompts, so you don't have to wait for 15 minutes for the "Hey! Listen!" Also, very strange mechanical fact about the Wolfos (the wolf enemy) is that they have a set ammount of health but take different damage from the back than from the front. This isn't that strange, what's strange is that different weapons have different multipliers for hitting them in the back. A slingshot shot and a stab with the sword usually do the same damage but if you hit a wolfos in the back with them, the sword kills it but the slingshot does not. The stick has a higher multiplier than the kokiri sword too, on top of having a higher base damage. That, of course, doesn't make any practical difference since they die from one hit either way which is why it's so dang weird. Man with Hat fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Mar 1, 2023 |
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Mar 1, 2023 15:46
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Frenzy, IIRC it only takes two bugs to get a Skulltula to pop up. You can pop open a bottle, quickly re-catch one of the three, and have the other two get the Skulltula. Or you can just release the bugs anywhere and then catch two of them in separate bottles. Either way, infinite source of bugs.
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Mar 1, 2023 17:40
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Carbon dioxide posted:Frenzy, IIRC it only takes two bugs to get a Skulltula to pop up. You can pop open a bottle, quickly re-catch one of the three, and have the other two get the Skulltula. Or you can just release the bugs anywhere and then catch two of them in separate bottles. Either way, infinite source of bugs. You actually only need one! But yes, the infinite bugs trick is definitely a thing which is useful if you're gonna go around hunting skulltulas in softsoil! There's only 9 of them in the entire game so it's not like a huge deal to get new bugs if you want your bottle space for other things.
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Mar 1, 2023 20:19
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I completely forgot about that little trek into the lost woods. It actually feels kind of weird looking at it now since you basically just left for your big adventure and had a big goodbye to Saria and now you're just going back.
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Mar 6, 2023 09:13
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Kibayasu posted:I completely forgot about that little trek into the lost woods. It actually feels kind of weird looking at it now since you basically just left for your big adventure and had a big goodbye to Saria and now you're just going back. Were we "supposed to" do this earlier in the game before Hyrule or death mountain? Or is this when we're supposed to come back?
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Mar 6, 2023 20:23
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Soylent Pudding posted:Were we "supposed to" do this earlier in the game before Hyrule or death mountain? Or is this when we're supposed to come back? I think the earliest you can get it is after meeting Zelda and obtaining the letter. The whole Darunia thing does signpost you in the direction of getting the song, so it's arguable that it's "meant" to be gotten now.
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Mar 6, 2023 22:11
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As a kid I don’t remember ever getting all the way to Goron City without already having the song. I think I probably did Hyrule Castle, Lon Lon Ranch, then went back to Kokiri Forest via the main entrance. If I recall, at some point Navi starts wondering what Saria’s up to in that time frame, but I’m going off some very old memories at this point.
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Mar 7, 2023 16:08
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In this LP I'm sorta trying to present things the way I think the game wants you to, to give the ladies the full experience. So I'm doing things in a specific order, including showing all the puzzle solving steps instead of just going where I know we need to go. As smax says, Navi's hint after talking to Princess Zelda is something like "I wonder what Saria would say about us saving hyrule". So if you're taking your cues from her, you might end up getting the song before heading up to Goron City. I personally think the game wants you to do things the way I did because it wants you to discover the shortcut. Darunia tells you that he wants forest music, and then there's an obvious torch lighting side quest that leads to a Goron who talks about being able to hear the forest music down the tunnel. There's a similar situation with the Zora's Domain/Lake Hylia shortcut.
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Mar 7, 2023 16:43
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FrenzyTheKillbot posted:In this LP I'm sorta trying to present things the way I think the game wants you to, to give the ladies the full experience. So I'm doing things in a specific order, including showing all the puzzle solving steps instead of just going where I know we need to go. As smax says, Navi's hint after talking to Princess Zelda is something like "I wonder what Saria would say about us saving hyrule". So if you're taking your cues from her, you might end up getting the song before heading up to Goron City. I personally think the game wants you to do things the way I did because it wants you to discover the shortcut. Darunia tells you that he wants forest music, and then there's an obvious torch lighting side quest that leads to a Goron who talks about being able to hear the forest music down the tunnel. There's a similar situation with the Zora's Domain/Lake Hylia shortcut. I think you're right in what they expect in that Darunia - Saria. I also think that's where they intended for you to learn to play ZL to get into secret royal family places. I never thought about it before now but you speaking to the gorons and the number of hints they gave made me realize that's probably the thing, which would explain the song order in the menu a bit more as well.
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Mar 7, 2023 19:13
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 10 - Dodongo's Cavern Link agrees to help clear out the infested Dodongo's Cavern for the Gorons.
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Mar 7, 2023 23:53
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Your co-hosts had a classic case of solving the puzzle in a few seconds then talking themselves out of it 
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Mandatory: I can't wait to bomb some dodongos!
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Mar 9, 2023 00:12
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Kibayasu posted:Your co-hosts had a classic case of solving the puzzle in a few seconds then talking themselves out of it I've been really enjoying their suggestions for how to solve puzzles. A couple videos ago when I was messing with the deku sticks and butterflies, SilverChaser suggested I swing the stick through the flowers for the pollen and that's such a good idea! It's hard to get back to that kind of thinking once you know where all the limits of the game are.
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Oh, speaking of the butterflies, I don't know if it was mentioned but they do do something.quote:If Link holds a Deku Stick near a Butterfly, and then walks away slowly, the Butterfly will follow the Deku Stick away and will transform into a fairy.
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Mar 13, 2023 20:00
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FrenzyTheKillbot posted:I've been really enjoying their suggestions for how to solve puzzles. A couple videos ago when I was messing with the deku sticks and butterflies, SilverChaser suggested I swing the stick through the flowers for the pollen and that's such a good idea! It's hard to get back to that kind of thinking once you know where all the limits of the game are. I've always loved this kind of thing. Ideas that make sense in the real world, but that people who've been playing games their whole lives instinctively know would never get put into a game. To us, of course the developers didn't program pollen into the flowers that can stick to your weapon. Especially on the N64. If a developer ever even had that specific idea, it probably would've been really difficult to implement and they have much more important things to prioritize in the short time (and limited cartridge space) available to them. But when your friend who never plays games, or your mom, or your little sibling, whoever, asks about it you still think "yeah, why not?" That kind of innocence should be preserved as long as possible, because as you said: it's really hard to think that way once you "know better" And then you play a Hideo Kojima game and maybe it'll actually work anyway because the man is a beautiful lunatic.
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Mar 13, 2023 23:39
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Kibayasu posted:Your co-hosts had a classic case of solving the puzzle in a few seconds then talking themselves out of it Yeah, this was great, going from the solution to "Something with lasers" (which in its own way also makes sense). I agree with your cohost who said you have killer aim. It's really drat hard hitting those bats imo. And a little thing you missed you can climb the vines where the skulltullas at 15:05 in the video are  - not that it matters, especially if you're coming back later which it sounded like
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 11 - King Dodongo Link continues his quest to help the Gorons, but now with more explosions! Carbon dioxide posted:Oh, speaking of the butterflies, I don't know if it was mentioned but they do do something. Yeah, I will show this off in the next video. It bugged me, so I ended up looking it up. Mr. Baps posted:And then you play a Hideo Kojima game and maybe it'll actually work anyway because the man is a beautiful lunatic. I'm pretty sure MGS3 actually has a mechanic very similar to what we're talking about. Man with Hat posted:And a little thing you missed you can climb the vines where the skulltullas at 15:05 in the video are Yeah I saw that afterwards in Artix's Master Quest LP. Oh well, I'd need to go back for the second one in that room anyways.
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When you think about it, without a similarly sustainable silicon-based ecosystem to our carbon-based ecosystem (which maybe the Dodongos are part of?), the Gorons will eventually run out of food someday.
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I learned from watching this LP they literally say they can't eat other rocks because the DC ones are so delicious they've been spoiled and can't stomach regular rocks anymore. I love this LP for that, it shows me things I don't notice since I just run through everything when I play Edit regarding the latest episode, perfect other example of Sticks being good since you kan kill King Dodongo with just two bombs if you'd rather keep bombs than sticks! Also, fun fact, you can't kill King Dodongo with a single hit, even if you hack the game and make the sword do 100 damage. Man with Hat fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Mar 16, 2023 |
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 12 - Running Errands Link takes care of some pesky items near the bottom of his to-do list.
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