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Sep 19, 2023 23:12
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So, fun fact! The rusted switch that you have to hookshot over to in the main room? You CAN make it over to that ledge with just hovers. You have to get a running start toward the ledge with the switch, and roll at the last second before you leave the first platform to get extra distance. But it gives you just enough air time that you can just barely make it to the ledge. I've been chipping away at an Ocarina Randomizer seed the past couple nights, and have had to make four different trips into the Spirit Temple for various checks. One of them was to activate that switch for a shortcut before I got lullaby to make the chest appear.
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Sep 19, 2023 23:41
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FrenzyTheKillbot posted:
The thumbnail and the title reminded me of one of the strangest things in OoT. The hookshot has some weird locations that can be hit, but someone at Nintendo... well, quoting from TCRF: The Cutting Room Floor posted:
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Mirror Shield validates my decision to go Red Tunic all the way to the end of the game Ocarina of Time is about Fashion
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Sep 20, 2023 12:11
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The Fashion of Zelda. 
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Sep 20, 2023 12:21
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DoubleNegative posted:So, fun fact! The rusted switch that you have to hookshot over to in the main room? You CAN make it over to that ledge with just hovers. You have to get a running start toward the ledge with the switch, and roll at the last second before you leave the first platform to get extra distance. But it gives you just enough air time that you can just barely make it to the ledge. Zelda Randomizers just seem like masochism to me. Odd Wilson posted:The thumbnail and the title reminded me of one of the strangest things in OoT. What the hell? Can't say I ever got the urge to test that out.
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Sep 21, 2023 01:03
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lol that's like the one thing I remember from the Spirit Temple because it's so random and useless.
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Sep 22, 2023 01:55
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FrenzyTheKillbot posted:Zelda Randomizers just seem like masochism to me. There's version of those randomizers that assume you know how to glitch through walls or whatever so will put the plot advance items literally anywhere.
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Sep 25, 2023 06:55
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Sep 26, 2023 22:58
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I can't imagine the level of self-control needed to not rush through the adult trading sequence as soon as you could. You have a stronger will than I!
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Sep 27, 2023 00:19
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Watching classic OOT graphics running at 60 fps is a little disorientating.
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Sep 27, 2023 00:26
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I like that Morrie's first reaction to the words "final showdown" is also to hum The Final Countdown.
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Sep 27, 2023 05:51
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I think this comic is now relevant.
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Sep 27, 2023 19:07
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Koume and Kotake are wonderful, I love that they still appear in Majora's Mask. The Twinrova fight is cool, but it can wear on your patience. I forget, can you switch Z-targeting from a toggle to "hold to Z-target" in OoT? I've never tried, but it would probably make the boss fight easier.
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Sep 27, 2023 19:26
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There's no real "options" screen in Ocarina, is there? I don't think you can really change any settings in-game. Later games have definitely allowed you to swap between "toggle" and "hold" for Z-targeting but I don't think Ocarina does. And yeah Twinrova is probably the most annoying fight in the game because of how RNG-reliant it can be.
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Sep 27, 2023 21:20
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You can actually! There's an options menu in the file select screen.
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Ocarina has a hold-to-target option and that's the first thing I flip when I start a new file.
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Sep 27, 2023 22:32
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There's a gossip stone near King Zora that tells you real Zelda players use Z-Hold. ...How do I remember that?
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Remalle posted:You can actually! There's an options menu in the file select screen. Dammit. I thought Z-targeting as a toggle felt weird, but I couldn't find the Options menu and just figured my muscle memory was off.
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Ah guys the Tarzan mechanism awaits in Wind Waker and Twilight princess.
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"It's not a bad chest, just a small chest" - LP quotes that make me think I'm on the wrong kind of website. On the Like-Likes, they can't eat the Mirror Shield because it's irreplaceable, as you speculated. (Also, while I'm thinking about the Mirror Shield... fun fact, did you know it can't reflect Deku Nuts? It's actually not just a strict upgrade to the Hylian Shield.) The Gerudo Training Ground is a fun diversion, but I've always found it one of the weirder aspects of this game. It's very elaborate, but there's almost no reason to do it, especially given how unimpressive the reward works out to be. One gets the impression the ice arrows were stuck there just because the devs were attached to the idea of there being three arrow types, and they had to put them somewhere. (They finally did realise their potential in Majora's Mask, but in this game they're basically just a damage upgrade.) It's also interesting looking at this area in retrospect, because having a bunch of keys in your inventory at once (and having choices as to which door to open with a given key) is a type of dungeon design that Zelda games have moved more and more away from over the years. After this game it becomes very rare (I can't even think of an example right now) to ever have more than one key at a time, or more than one door it could open, to the point keys functionally don't represent much different from a door that opens when you solve a puzzle.
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Explopyro posted:The Gerudo Training Ground is a fun diversion, but I've always found it one of the weirder aspects of this game. It's very elaborate, but there's almost no reason to do it, especially given how unimpressive the reward works out to be. One gets the impression the ice arrows were stuck there just because the devs were attached to the idea of there being three arrow types, and they had to put them somewhere. (They finally did realise their potential in Majora's Mask, but in this game they're basically just a damage upgrade.) Given all the enemies the arrows do work on, including Bongo Bongo, it's pretty odd they're so out of the way. They even work on blade traps, apparently. I mean, thematically it would make sense to put it in the Ice Cavern, but the Iron Boots are already there as part of the natural line in redoing Earth, Fire, Water in order again. I feel like the Ocarina Randomizer inherently knows how underused the GTG is, because I'll be damned if not every single seed has made me have to grab something particularly important from it.
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For the record, yes; they cannot eat the Mirror Shield. Everything they can eat can be purchased in shops, be it the Red or Blue Tunics, or Hylian Shields. They have to be; what if you got the Mirror Shield, then got it eaten by a Likelike before fighting Twinrova, then left the area or something? You'd be soft-locked and unable to progress.
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Explopyro posted:It's also interesting looking at this area in retrospect, because having a bunch of keys in your inventory at once (and having choices as to which door to open with a given key) is a type of dungeon design that Zelda games have moved more and more away from over the years. After this game it becomes very rare (I can't even think of an example right now) to ever have more than one key at a time, or more than one door it could open, to the point keys functionally don't represent much different from a door that opens when you solve a puzzle. I wonder if this is just a product of simplified game design. Must be annoying to design dungeons where you have options, but that don't potentially screw you over or render the dungeon mostly optional (like the bottom of the well).
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FrenzyTheKillbot posted:I wonder if this is just a product of simplified game design. Must be annoying to design dungeons where you have options, but that don't potentially screw you over or render the dungeon mostly optional (like the bottom of the well). It's likely a product of all the issues around the water temple. The big problem there is you can go like three rooms deep into the Dark Link area only to find a locked door, ditto the boss key area. And it turns out doing tonnes of work only to have to turn around and go back the way you came is pretty demoralising.
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SilverChaser posted:[Epona will] jump over a broken bridge, but she won't go over a small foot bridge.
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Fun fact! That bean sprout Silver and Morrie kept asking about is a fantastic shortcut up part of Death Mountain for the final leg of the eye drops run. It drops you off at the top of the next hill, up where the hidden cow grotto is.
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Regarding Sad Boy, it is worth noting that Granny specified that while it was the strongest medicine she'd ever created, it will not work on a monster. He was Lost to the Woods and became a Monster before we could get it to him.
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I might have missed it, but why did you go back to before you beat the last temple? Why not just keep as is, or do it after?
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Cradok posted:I might have missed it, but why did you go back to before you beat the last temple? Why not just keep as is, or do it after? I believe because it causes an area he still needs to visit for cleanup to start the Endgame, making it a Point Of No Return.
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DoubleNegative posted:Fun fact! That bean sprout Silver and Morrie kept asking about is a fantastic shortcut up part of Death Mountain for the final leg of the eye drops run. It drops you off at the top of the next hill, up where the hidden cow grotto is. Oh interesting. I actually thought it only went up above the cave, but I never bothered to check. BlazetheInferno posted:Regarding Sad Boy, it is worth noting that Granny specified that while it was the strongest medicine she'd ever created, it will not work on a monster. He was Lost to the Woods and became a Monster before we could get it to him. Yeah her comment about it not working on a monster seems strange when she says it out of nowhere. In retrospect, she knew more than we did about what was going on. Cradok posted:I might have missed it, but why did you go back to before you beat the last temple? Why not just keep as is, or do it after? Next video is the round-up. I want to be able to turn into a kid again, but the Temple of Time is progress. That was the easiest way to keep things happening in a good order.
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DoubleNegative posted:Fun fact! That bean sprout Silver and Morrie kept asking about is a fantastic shortcut up part of Death Mountain for the final leg of the eye drops run. It drops you off at the top of the next hill, up where the hidden cow grotto is.
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Commander Keene posted:I just ran from Lake Hylia to Kokiri Village and took the Lost Woods shortcut to Goron City. Is that route any shorter? I can't remember what routes I used to use as a kid, but as far as I can remember, I've always done the route Frenzy did in the video.
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I took the Lost Woods route too, was sweating when I realized Frenzy wasn't even going to go through the back door in Darunia's room, but up the mountain instead.
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I can't say definitively which route takes less time, but I believe the Lost Woods - Goron City route is less overall distance traveled? It might still be faster to take Epona through Hyrule Field though because you're moving faster. This is Ocarina though, people have probably exhaustively researched which route is objectively faster long ago.
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On the subject of Link getting lost in the Lost Woods and becoming a Stalfos, there is the Hero's Shade in Twilight Princess...
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