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Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

The Left Behind series should exist in the same continuity as Assassin 33 AD imo

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Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:

The Left Behind series should exist in the same continuity as Assassin 33 AD imo

What about this movie?

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

I was on board with this movie until I found out they did not have the true successor to El Santo, El Hijo Del Santo.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:

The Left Behind series should exist in the same continuity as Assassin 33 AD imo

Has anyone compared the original cut of Assassin 33 AD with the Black Easter cut? I started watching Black Easter and it felt so much more overtly framed as a comedy, very different from the original cut. Maybe my memory is just wrong, but Tubi only had Black Easter by that point so I couldn't compare myself.

Kloaked00
Jun 21, 2005

I was sitting in my office on that drizzly afternoon listening to the monotonous staccato of rain on my desk and reading my name on the glass of my office door: regnaD kciN

I read through the Left Behind series probably about 15 years ago originally thinking an apocalyptic series, even with a religious overtone would be a decent read. The writing is not stellar by any means and it’s hamfisted as well, but I think that actually contributes to the fact that I actually enjoyed most of it. The absurdity in the writing makes it so you can’t take the plot all that seriously, it’s like a B movie where you just are long for the zany ride.

I think Nic Cage had exactly the right energy to match that and it’s definitely a downgrade to have him replaced by Sorbo. The trailer for this definitely doesn’t have the energy the Nic Cage version did

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

The book series are easily my favourite ironically-enjoy book series to read. I think one of the authors must have worked in aviation because there are so many scenes of the characters working out logistics about pilots and flight paths and stuff. You have the fricking antichrist spending a good portion of his 'screen time' just dialoging about aviation matters. And so many of the plot points involve planes and passengers. I kind of love it.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Lampsacus posted:

The book series are easily my favourite ironically-enjoy book series to read. I think one of the authors must have worked in aviation because there are so many scenes of the characters working out logistics about pilots and flight paths and stuff. You have the fricking antichrist spending a good portion of his 'screen time' just dialoging about aviation matters. And so many of the plot points involve planes and passengers. I kind of love it.

LaHaye was a bomber gunner in WW2.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


MassRafTer posted:

LaHaye was a bomber gunner in WW2.

lol I had thought this series was written by a single contemporary dude and had no idea I was dealing with Left Behind mythos writers.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

Kloaked00 posted:

I think Nic Cage had exactly the right energy to match that and it’s definitely a downgrade to have him replaced by Sorbo. The trailer for this definitely doesn’t have the energy the Nic Cage version did

To be completely fair, is there any other actor who can bring Nic Cage energy?

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

Bogus Adventure posted:

To be completely fair, is there any other actor who can bring Nic Cage energy?

There really isn't. That's why it's called "Nic Cage" energy. When he passes away (or is just raptured up to entertain God or something) we will have truly lost a unique talent.

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

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It's no "If Footmen Tire You, What Will Horses Do?" :colbert:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taYThk1FX2k

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

Everyone posted:

There really isn't. That's why it's called "Nic Cage" energy. When he passes away (or is just raptured up to entertain God or something) we will have truly lost a unique talent.

This is true

Animal-Mother posted:

It's no "If Footmen Tire You, What Will Horses Do?" :colbert:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taYThk1FX2k

Lmao, don't sleep on this link. I had no idea how much I needed this in my life.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Name Change posted:

lol I had thought this series was written by a single contemporary dude and had no idea I was dealing with Left Behind mythos writers.

Tim LaHaye had quite the career.

https://twitter.com/jemartisby/status/1615140722797051904

ephori
Sep 1, 2006

Dinosaur Gum

Animal-Mother posted:

It's no "If Footmen Tire You, What Will Horses Do?" :colbert:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taYThk1FX2k

holy poo poo lol

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012


Wheaton College is a straight up "Footloose" style evangelical school where co-ed dancing is prohibited and professors have been fired for being Catholic, to give you an idea of where LaHaye falls in relation to them.

(they were an abolitionist school with the first ever black graduate in the US Illinois but they are remarkably creepy nowadays)

Famethrowa fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Feb 3, 2023

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Animal-Mother posted:

It's no "If Footmen Tire You, What Will Horses Do?" :colbert:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taYThk1FX2k

Part 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVG1_lnjw2s

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

lmao

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


Here's the whole film, lovingly restored.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPLG8zt4DKk

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

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MassRafTer posted:

Tim LaHaye had quite the career.



I am really struggling to understand what could possibly have been "heretical" about King's ideas.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
Looking forward to the inevitable GAM review of this.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Animal-Mother posted:

I am really struggling to understand what could possibly have been "heretical" about King's ideas.

I googled and it came up with tons of links like this:

Was Martin Luther King Jr. a Christian?
https://discerninghistory.com/2018/04/was-martin-luther-king-jr-a-christian/

Remembering Martin Luther King Jr.’s Heresy, Denial of Christ’s Deity and Physical Resurrection
https://disntr.com/2023/01/16/remembering-martin-luther-king-jr-s-heresy-denial-of-christs-deity-and-physical-resurrection/

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
Gonna assume that people who think that MLK and “his people” are descendants of Ham, forever cursed by Noah, will find a way to declare him heretical, come what may.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Also, it's not hard to find people calling any prominent religious figure a heretic for XYZ reasons. Even the guys at the top of the food chain: The Popes, Billy Graham, Joel Osteen et al.

The same goes for other religions of course.

Happy Hippo
Aug 8, 2004

The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > Batman's Shameful Secret > BSS Derailed Thread: Spider-Island

I think I may need to do a commentary episode of my podcast about one of these Left Behind movies. Does anyone here know which one is best/funniest?

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

Zogo posted:

Also, it's not hard to find people calling any prominent religious figure a heretic for XYZ reasons. Even the guys at the top of the food chain: The Popes, Billy Graham, Joel Osteen et al.

The same goes for other religions of course.

I'm completely okay calling Joel Osteen a heretic. Whatever your take on "the Gospel" "prosperity theology" is pretty much 100% the opposite of that.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Everyone posted:

I'm completely okay calling Joel Osteen a heretic. Whatever your take on "the Gospel" "prosperity theology" is pretty much 100% the opposite of that.

And Billy Graham was one of modern "religion"'s biggest monsters, too.

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

Timby posted:

And Billy Graham was one of modern "religion"'s biggest monsters, too.

I've probably lost track of a lot of Graham stuff (and never followed him that closely to start with) but once you get into "enabled actual pedophiles to get their pedophilia on" it's a little hard to see how Graham "out-monsters" quite a few of the most recent Popes.

Granted that's true of Olsteen as well, but with Graham, I can believe that he buys his own BS, Olsteen just gives off the stench of "I am the Kevin Trudeau of Christianity."

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Happy Hippo posted:

I think I may need to do a commentary episode of my podcast about one of these Left Behind movies. Does anyone here know which one is best/funniest?

The first Kirk Cameron Left Behind movie is very funny in that it is has the feeling of a movie made by people who don't know what a movie is.

Left Behind 3: World At War is more of a movie, but it is absolutely ludicrous and is easier to describe on a podcast why it's funny.

Both should be on Tubi and I think are on Prime too.

TheBigBudgetSequel
Nov 25, 2008

It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me.
Boy when I was young I went down the rabbit hole of Left Behind, and it's so weird to see it still exists. I remember reading all the regular books (well, up to a certain point, I didn't read the last one or two, I think) AND the YA Left Behind: The Kids edition. I remember posting on an early web forum that was like...Left Behind roleplay? Unhinged poo poo looking back on it. I made my dad drive me like an hour to see the first movie in a theater. It was dope poo poo to a kid who couldn't see that the christianity he was partaking in was bugfuck insane.

Now if you are looking for a Christian novel that actually kind of owns, I recommend The Oath by Frank Peretti. It's mostly Stephen King-esq horror but the monster can sniff out sinners. Dumb but fun read.

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

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MassRafTer posted:

The first Kirk Cameron Left Behind movie is very funny in that it is has the feeling of a movie made by people who don't know what a movie is.

God's Not Dead has the similar problem of being set at a college, a place the writers may have never been to, or perhaps haven't visited since the 80's.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Animal-Mother posted:

God's Not Dead has the similar problem of being set at a college, a place the writers may have never been to, or perhaps haven't visited since the 80's.

The B plot of God's Not Dead is perhaps even more non-sensical.

Here are some of the other rapture movies:

A Thief in the Night, the original rapture series. The first movie is basically outsider art. The series can be a little boring though, but the first one is worth seeing as is the last one.

A Thief in the Night: https://tubitv.com/movies/526134/a-thief-in-the-night?start=true
A Distant Thunder: https://tubitv.com/movies/525193/a-distant-thunder?start=true
Image of the Beast: https://tubitv.com/movies/526133/image-of-the-beast?start=true
The Prodigal Planet: https://tubitv.com/movies/525192/the-prodigal-planet?start=true

The Apocalypse Series, by Cloud Ten pictures the same group that made the original Left Behind movies. These are even lower budget and even less like movies.

They were on Tubi but they are now exclusive to Dove. The original Apocalypse has so little budget they used Gulf War stock footage for the battle scenes. Revelation is about as competent, but Tribulation tries to use real actors (who claim they didn't know what the movie was about) and Judgment uses Mr. T (who obviously knew what it was about.) Each is great in its own way.

The Omega Code series is barely a series. The original Omega Code is pretty boring but Megido: Omega Code 2 was an early forums classic for its terrible CGI and acting.
https://tubitv.com/movies/572730/megiddo-the-omega-code-2?start=true

The same people behind God's Not Dead have their own apocalypse series called Revelation Road. These are ok, they have some actors in them and pro wrestler Sting. But they really lack the charm of the others. However, their non rapture film The Encounter is one of my favorite Christian movies. It takes place in a diner run by Jesus. It also has pro wrestler Sting. It's not hard to find.

MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Feb 6, 2023

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
We don’t get these kinds of Christian schlock in Swedish cinemas so listening to GAM and hearing how often they actually go and see a particular movie in the theatres is crazy to me.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


TheBigBudgetSequel posted:

Now if you are looking for a Christian novel that actually kind of owns, I recommend The Oath by Frank Peretti. It's mostly Stephen King-esq horror but the monster can sniff out sinners. Dumb but fun read.

A really good religious fantasy novel is Between Two Fires by Christopher Buehlman. It follows a disgraced former knight escorting a special young woman across France in the time of the Black Plague. The plot is explicitly Christian (as in Jesus makes an appearance) but it isn't exactly a "Christian" novel.

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

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MassRafTer posted:

The B plot of God's Not Dead is perhaps even more non-sensical.

Sometimes it takes an entire academic quarter to find a rental car that works, okay?

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

MassRafTer posted:

A Thief in the Night, the original rapture series. The first movie is basically outsider art. The series can be a little boring though, but the first one is worth seeing as is the last one.

A Thief in the Night: https://tubitv.com/movies/526134/a-thief-in-the-night?start=true
A Distant Thunder: https://tubitv.com/movies/525193/a-distant-thunder?start=true
Image of the Beast: https://tubitv.com/movies/526133/image-of-the-beast?start=true
The Prodigal Planet: https://tubitv.com/movies/525192/the-prodigal-planet?start=true

Came here to post about these, probably the most "important" films of this kind for setting the stage and a must watch for anyone reading this thread. It's crazy how little has changed from the template these set. There's an insidiousness to everything about them that I despise with how not self aware they are of how stupid/hosed up this poo poo is that you see repeated in all of these flicks. The good thing about these is that the run times for the first two are relatively short, and the third/fourth ones had one actual Actor involved who worked on the script a bit too so they're more like actual movies.

Animal-Mother posted:

Sometimes it takes an entire academic quarter to find a rental car that works, okay?

For Christian movie plot contrivances NOTHING tops Image of the Beast's entire climax hinging on people buying groceries.



muscles like this! posted:

A really good religious fantasy novel is Between Two Fires by Christopher Buehlman. It follows a disgraced former knight escorting a special young woman across France in the time of the Black Plague. The plot is explicitly Christian (as in Jesus makes an appearance) but it isn't exactly a "Christian" novel.

That book owns hard, highly recommended.

Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Feb 6, 2023

Narzack
Sep 15, 2008

TheBigBudgetSequel posted:

Boy when I was young I went down the rabbit hole of Left Behind, and it's so weird to see it still exists. I remember reading all the regular books (well, up to a certain point, I didn't read the last one or two, I think) AND the YA Left Behind: The Kids edition. I remember posting on an early web forum that was like...Left Behind roleplay? Unhinged poo poo looking back on it. I made my dad drive me like an hour to see the first movie in a theater. It was dope poo poo to a kid who couldn't see that the christianity he was partaking in was bugfuck insane.

Now if you are looking for a Christian novel that actually kind of owns, I recommend The Oath by Frank Peretti. It's mostly Stephen King-esq horror but the monster can sniff out sinners. Dumb but fun read.

I can echo this, especially the Frank Peretti recommendation- for most of my life, that was my number one favorite book. I grew up very Christian in a moderately rural area, so I consumed pretty much nothing but Christian media- music, books, movies(almost universally lovely, except for the first Buttercream Gang movie). I read the first seven or so of the Left Behind books and loved them for the most part, until it seemed like they were just dragging poo poo out to fill more books. I remember that there were originally supposed to be seven books, one for each year of the Tribulation, but then I think it ended up with twelve in the main series, plus some sidequels and the kids' series. Don't think I ever actually finished them.

I do remember Mark of the Best and Thief in the Night scaring the dickens out of me when I saw them as a young dude.

A note about Peretti. He's an incredible storyteller, but he is also very much a Christian writer and that worldview informs his writing. For instance, Piercing the Darkness and This Present Darkness are about literal spiritual warfare. Still, they're very entertaining, despite that Satanic panic element.

Jenny Agutter
Mar 18, 2009

If anyone you know enjoys this film, have them check out the sequel, simply titled Antichrist

Splint Chesthair
Dec 27, 2004


Famethrowa posted:

Wheaton College is a straight up "Footloose" style evangelical school where co-ed dancing is prohibited and professors have been fired for being Catholic, to give you an idea of where LaHaye falls in relation to them.

(they were an abolitionist school with the first ever black graduate in the US Illinois but they are remarkably creepy nowadays)

Wheaton College is also the alma mater of Wes Craven, lol.

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

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Though it wasn't about the apocalypse, the documentary Audience of One gives some insight into why these religious movies often have fundamental filmmaking problems: the people making them have no idea what they're doing but are convinced God himself guides their hand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n83fZvpYMgM

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MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
I like that the official movie account's feed is 99% retweeting people in Kevin Sorbo's mentions, but Sorbo himself wouldn't do that from his account.

https://twitter.com/Lovelet92688728/status/1619959377083113472

https://twitter.com/schuurman_lisa/status/1619836841611624450

https://twitter.com/rrush335/status/1620060280469458944

https://twitter.com/devita2_devita/status/1619847293124894720

All real accounts I am sure.

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