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Soylent Pudding
Jun 22, 2007

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Hyrax Attack! posted:

If they were rational actors, yes. But we’re in a world where if a candidate ran with no platform and his ads were just him silently putting bibles in an wood chipper, if he had (R) next to his name he’d still have a floor of 30% of the vote.

Well yeah those woke bibles make baby Jesus cry.

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Soylent Pudding
Jun 22, 2007

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GoGoGadget posted:

He wasn't a convert, but a sponsor of one.

And yeah, it is a bit odd to have to go through classes to convert, but the more I go through it the more I understand it. As pointed out, the ritual of it all is very important and you can't easily come into that without deliberate teaching. But what attracted me to it was the relative liberalism and actually caring about people I saw in those like the doctor running this RCIA group compared to my Southern Baptist upbringing where I was taught everyone was a sinner that deserved to burn eternally in the fiery pits of Hell.

I've struggled with this in Judaism. I love the rituals and sense of historical connection they provide but also the groups that most value ritual also tend to be the intolerant assholes. Whereas the the temples I've been to that I consider spiritually and politically just they've thrown almost all of the ritual out along with the problematic bits.

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Jun 22, 2007

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Cugel the Clever posted:

Predestination is a huge dick move for sure, but I don't know that it's really worse than the whole "God made the ultimate sacrifice because he loves you despite your sinful, sinful ways. The only way you can find salvation is through complete submission to his will." Reads like textbook abusive manipulation to me :shrug:

I think the god of the Tanakh is a textbook abusive dad. My non-smug atheist theory is that for a bunch of semi nomadic sheep herding tribes in the mad max but with chariots world of the post bronze age collapse, anthropomorphizing the natural and man made cruelty and indifference of the world into a father figure gave an important psychological sense of control and order to their lives. Really the same way any conspiracy theory develops.

I hope it doesn't come across as to much of an r/atheism hot take to say that to me psychologically speaking religion is a legitimized conspiracy theory. To me this doesn't invalidate religion, just that it's important to understand these were people like us confronting some very traumatic poo poo with the best tools they had, and even the things they got wrong teach us something important about ourselves.

shame on an IGA posted:

Calvin is where poo poo really started going off the rails IMO

I'd argue in my Jewish atheist opinion that Christianity went off the rails either from Saul of Tarsus's deep cover psyop to undermine the the woke SJW gospels with teachings the reinforced existing social power structures or from Constantine appropriating it as tool of imperial coercion.

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Jun 22, 2007

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psydude posted:

I just want to reiterate the US just shot down a literal Unidentified Flying Object in TYOOL 2023.

Was the interceptor piloted by Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum?

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Jun 22, 2007

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Godholio posted:

Flight hours are tricky. The pilots that flew these missions got their weekly flight. They just did something for NORAD instead of a generic 2v2 in the nearby military airspace. So those flight hours and associated costs were going to be paid ANYWAY. It's the same reason sporting event flyovers and similar stuff isn't the huge waste of money some people like to claim...it still checks the box for the normal training flight, but it's a different profile which if anything is a good thing because it's not the same poo poo as the last six flights.

An air force guy once told me that a stadium overflight basically trains all the steps for a precision bombing operation minus the ordinance release. Not sure how true that is but on the surface it sounded plausible.

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Jun 22, 2007

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Mr. Nice! posted:

I had to block those bastards blaspheming about jesus getting them as well.

What??

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Jun 22, 2007

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Mr. Nice! posted:

The anti-LGBT assholes who spent a bunch of money on jesus commercials is also spending a bunch of money on twitter advertising so I blocked them the first time I saw an ad.

Welp this is where I'm glad I'm a recluse who hasn't seen these ads.

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Jun 22, 2007

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facialimpediment posted:

They were hitting sports event advertising quite a lot, college basketball/football ads had a lot of them. Back then, it wasn't really known that it was The Servant Foundation bankrolling it and they took credit for the Mississippi law that overturned Roe.

https://jezebel.com/group-behind-super-bowl-s-jesus-ads-is-bankrolling-the-1850108563?utm_medium=sharefromsite&utm_source=_twitter

I always figured they were just generically jesusey until the Superbowl ads came out and people dug into tax returns and who bankrolled what.

gently caress I remember seeing a few of those ads during college football games. They were all "Jesus was an immigrant" stuff that made me wonder if it was some vaguely lib thing.

From the context I was expecting Mr. nice to have seen adds of Jesus flipping tables at drag queen story hour or something.

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Jun 22, 2007

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shame on an IGA posted:

Graham is a completely spineless shapeshifter with no principles but he's not a fool

I would not be shocked that he listened to his lawyer and answered with a bunch of weasel words or "I don't recalls".

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Jun 22, 2007

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Steezo posted:

This also works for Alex Jones, the most disastrously sued man in America. I've been listening to Knowledge Fight a bunch lately, and it turns out some people are stupid enough to think "A Modest Proposal" was anything but a critique of the british government doing nothing to help Ireland.

We also have chuds surprised that Rage Against the Machine "turned political". Over in one of the buttcoin threads we were recently mocking some indicted web3 media company founders who named their startup Ozzy because they were inspired by reading Ozzymandias.

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Jun 22, 2007

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Cugel the Clever posted:

A pogrom swept through a number of Palestinian towns yesterday, killing at least one, wounding hundreds, and torching the homes and vehicles of many. Came amidst a deconfliction agreement between the Netanyahu government and the PA, with hundreds of settlers scouring the Palestinian villages in a wave of retributive violence following the killings of two occupiers (itself quite likely retributive for recent Israeli raids that resulted in the deaths of children). In the words of one attacker, standing in the midst of burned-out wreckage: "A real war started here. I don't see any Arabs going out to throw stones or do anything else. Everything died here and I see that we've found a solution for terrorism."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QrAinNkxZ4

Israel has three options: it can overturn its system of ethnosupremacist Apartheid and integrate the Palestinian territories with full representation for the population; it can keep muddling through with a boot on the necks of Palestinians and a gentle leash on the Israelis occupying the West Bank; or, it can fully embrace the undertaking of the kinds of violence that so terribly and profoundly victimized Jews in the past, killing and expelling all those they deem "undesirable". Given the explicitly far-right nature of Netanyahu's current government, we may be closer to the third option being official government policy than ever before. Bizarrely, Bibi himself may be the only remaining counterweight as he's savvy enough to understand the image problem that would create internationally.

The Israeli right wing coalition government is also pushing through a huge set of "judicial reforms" that primarily replace professional selection with political appointment in the judiciary and rolls back a lot of the Israeli supreme court's power to conduct judicial review and invalidate laws passed by the parliament. The Israeli right has been frustrated by what they see as judicial activism when it comes to the court upholding Israeli human rights laws when it comes to Palestinians and non-orthodox Jews.

I've never met an Israeli who believes you can write a constitution that will protect Israel's Jewish minority from a Palestinian majority if any attempt at a unified state is created. A lot of Israelis genuinely believe that the moment the Palestinians feel capable of doing so they will genocide the Jewish population. A lot of Jews in general also see it as nonnegotiable that there should be a sovereign Jewish state in Jewish indigenous lands and believe there is no way to constitutionally protect that against a non Jewish majority.

In theory that should mean a two state solution is viable with appropriate international security guarantees. But in practice a good chunk of the Israeli right is incredibly white supremacist to the point of being super racist against non Ashkenazi Jews, especially African Jews. Then the religious Zionists firmly believe that biblical Israel is the Jewish people's god given indigenous lands and that Palestinian settlement and occupation is inherently illegitimate and unrecognizable. These groups in particular have plenty of support from far right christian organizations around the world itching to get the rapture started.

I had hope when Bibi was facing corruption charges that the Israeli left and liberals might actually regain power and we could end up back in the path of a two state solution. Instead we ended up with a coalition of far right parties that hate each other but hate the left and Palestinians more. At this point I see what is left of Israeli democratic institutions continuing to crumble under the sustained assault of right wing authoritarians and fundamentalists, and the Israeli government stopping their prior efforts of reigning in the settlers. I feel like the third option is increasingly the most likely and I really wish there was an offramp we could find.

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Jun 22, 2007

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Sacrist65 posted:

I vaguely remember Scott Adams in 2016 marrying a 19 year old . Was this a fever dream?

He will be a guest host on Fox talking about how he was cancelled in like 5 days.

If I remember correctly she had his kid and then ended up divorcing him.

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Jun 22, 2007

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pantslesswithwolves posted:

It's all hopelessly hosed up.

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Jun 22, 2007

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bird food bathtub posted:

The US isn't exactly doing great in its fight against rising right-wing authoritarianism. "Not getting as much power as expected in one election" isn't exactly a crushing, movement-ending rebuke. That fight is still ongoing and the future is not super bright. Seizing power no matter what, even violently if required, and warping the system so that only they can maintain it is the entire playbook.

As ashamed as I feel to admit it, there have been a couple times when American right wing violent rhetoric, like how my friend in Nashville just had his neighborhood covered in flyers saying "Jews are funding pro-childhood gender reassignment surgery propaganda to sterilize the white race", makes a part of me feel "well at least this time when they come for us we have a nuclear capable state to flee to."

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Jun 22, 2007

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Crab Dad posted:

Why couldn’t the Jews pull a Book of Mormon and find a newer homeland on I dunno Cyprus or such. Surely the God of Peace would less strife in the world.






lol

They actually considered it in the early days of Zionism. It was the Orthodox communities embracing Zionism that lead to the specific focus on reclaiming Israel. Some of the initial secular socialist Zionists just wanted to move somewhere they could have an agrarian commune and not get pogromed every few decades.


CommieGIR posted:

Ah yes, Israeli Utah.

Back in high school my grandma gave me some alt history book where after the Holocaust the western powers refused to allow Jewish resettlement to British Palestine and as a compromise the US basically gave the European Jewish refugees a reservation in Alaska. I never read more than a few chapters and it was weird.

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Jun 22, 2007

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Hyrax Attack! posted:

A Jewish buddy had a chuckle when he learned Mormons include Jews in their category of gentiles.

The Yiddish Policemen's Union, I thought it was an interesting alternate history story.

That was it! I may have to give it another try.

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Jun 22, 2007

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US Berder Patrol posted:

actually Marianne Williamson is cool, way cooler than 90% of the ghouls and creeps we see in any given primary season

Wasn't she anti-vax?

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Jun 22, 2007

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Secure depends on your threat model. Most of us really only need to worry about phishing and password guessing or reuse attacks.

1pass + MFA is fine for most people. Use the 1pass app to generate random passwords and just copy/paste. Don't resuse passwords and change your password if the place you have that account experiences a data breach. You can use https://haveibeenpwned.com/ to see which of your accounts have appeared in data dumps.

Protect 1pass with MFA and enable MFA on as many places as support it. 1pass also supports group vaults which is nice if you and your partner want to share access credentials for things like utility accounts but keep the rest of your passwords separate.

SMS based MFA is not nearly as secure as it used to be but better than nothing. App based MFA through something like Authy is stronger and hardware token MFA using a Yubikey is strongest. The latter two might not be supported by everything you'd want, like your banks. Using stronger MFA also imposes a risk if you lose your phone or token, so have a backup plan in place for that contingency. Do use app based or hardware based MFA for your passwords vault though.

If you are likely to be personally targeted SMS isn't as useful because SIMswaping is way too easy. This is only a problem if you have a position of privileged access for an organization someone is targeting, if you are in a position of high profile and risk as a journalist or streamer, or if you have a bunch of cryptocurrency and ape jpgs. Also if you're in the last category go gently caress yourself and rethink your life choices.

If your threat model includes nation state actors ask your SSO for counterintelligence training. Otherwise you're already hacked, have fun.


CommieGIR posted:

Yup. Keepass and Syncthings across all your devices.

This will certainly work but 1pass + Authy is likely secure enough for most users who want minimum computer janitoring.

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Jun 22, 2007

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CommieGIR posted:

True, and I use Authy for my MFA. But I'm quite happy with Keepass.

The joy of working in Security.

I've used KeePass before and really liked it. I just feel like the average person is fine using a service like 1password that handles most of the backup concerns for them. I'm also ADHD. I'm willing to take the risk of relying on 1password for backups rather than take the risk I'll forget to check if my backups are working for six months and then find out too late that they weren't.


CommieGIR posted:

The joy of working in Security.

This is an oxymoron because there is no joy working in infosec, just suffering.

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Jun 22, 2007

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CommieGIR posted:

15 years of doing it, and I take a special delight in it, but I also work mostly consulting for Incident Response and Disaster Recovery with some Red Teaming, so I particularly like my job.

Impressive. I'm a relative newbie with not quite 5 years DFIR experience after I failed at being a lawyer. I also get to do some purple teaming which is also very fun.

I'm a civilian but given the place I work I tend to cross paths with military cyber protection teams on the regular. Lurking GiP for a decade now has been excellent cultural acclimation.

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Jun 22, 2007

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MrYenko posted:

Why the blue gently caress would you have TikTok on a work device anyway?

You're a recruiter posting thirst traps to convince dumb 18 year olds to give their bussy up to Uncle Sam?

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