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Are we gonna talk about this game? It doesn't look great all the time, but I am honestly enjoying itMikeJF posted:This game needs an 'are you sure you want to go back to the main menu and lose where you're at' dialogue box. GOD, YES, IT DOES.
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I had fun with the first few sequences but I've decided to wait for the next patch to continue.
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May 26, 2023 00:19
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Terra-da-loo! posted:Are we gonna talk about this game? It doesn't look great all the time, but I am honestly enjoying it I'm going to talk about the game once I have a chance to play it but I just started a new job and have been super busy. I was hoping to hear more from other folks about how they've been liking it. I think the visuals have been unimpressive and the music just feels kinda meh. Better than the garbage soundtrack of STO but that's a pretty low bar. The opening bit with the ship almost sounded like an actual Star Trek score, for a few seconds anyway! But they've nailed the atmosphere of being on a federation starship in the 24th century and I cannot wait to play more.
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May 26, 2023 00:29
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Both fair takes, I didn't mean to rush anyone lol. Yeah, it doesn't look great, but does look better than most other trek games I've played. Also feels appropriately like a trek episode or movie or something. So I'm enjoying it even though I can definitely recognize the jank it's got rn Edit: I find the bridge of the resolute beautiful, imo
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May 26, 2023 00:58
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Terra-da-loo! posted:Both fair takes, I didn't mean to rush anyone lol. Yeah it's pretty clear that the art budget priority was inside the ship, which was the right call imo. You gotta sell the ship.
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May 26, 2023 01:46
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MikeJF posted:This game needs an 'are you sure you want to go back to the main menu and lose where you're at' dialogue box. Putting a "Quit to Main Menu" button on every tutorial screen is a bonkers decision. That one cost me twenty minutes yesterday. Finished it this afternoon, and really enjoyed it. It's not without its faults, but I was really pulled in by the story and I think it looked great most of the time, the lighting and interior shots were particularly good. My choices were fairly vanilla I think. At some point I'll go round again and make some different calls. Lieutenant Bedrosian really hates my guts.
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May 26, 2023 08:37
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Oh man. I lost track of time playing this, and when I checked my watch it was 2 in the morning. I don't think I've had that kind of gaming moment since college. I can forgive the janky controls and poor PC optimization, if that's the cost of having a game that actually gets at the core of what made the older Trek series so drat good. When the plot kicks in, it doesn't let up. The writing, the acting, the impassioned arguments over principle and duty, it's all :chefskiss: The action cutscenes have some really nice cinematography, and the alien biomes veer between "TOS fever dream unleashed" and "This alien planet was shot on a soundstage with plastic plants and an overloaded fog machine. You can see the point where the background becomes a matte painting." God, I love this already. Also, I absolutely get the Lower Decks inclination to hang out in engineering and listen to the warp core. MikeJF posted:This game needs an 'are you sure you want to go back to the main menu and lose where you're at' dialogue box. I usually think I'm a fairly intelligent person, with the ability to learn, but evidently not. I keep getting tripped up by this, and after 10 times, I can't even blame the game. I blame myself for not learning a lesson.
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May 26, 2023 09:23
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I couldn't decide after the mixed reviews so I pulled up twitch to watch someone random playing it. My opinion after watching that for about four hours is that this is the best telltale game ever made. Far better than the walking dead. It's also possibly the best star trek game ever made. However the gameplay is awful. But I never personally thought telltale games had gameplay. If you can stand playing a brilliant authentic star trek visual novel... that for some reason includes a buttload of awful minigames?? Then WOW are you gonna love it. The minigames seem to even be something you can cheat past after failing them once. Someone on the dev team must've realized that they weren't any fun at all so they fought to get that option thrown in. It's just sad that this game came out of nowhere without any telltale style PR blitz. Because apparently it not only looks and feels like a telltale game, it was made by many of the same people. And like I said, I think they really nailed it. To long didn't read? Amazing writing/script/voices. Absolutely nails the theme. This could easily have been picked up as a script for a real star trek tv show. Everything else? D-
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May 26, 2023 12:17
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I think $40 was a good price point for this. I'm enjoying it as a visual novel - it's not much of a game though. Still one of the best Trek games of all time and better than stuff like Harbinger/Hidden Evil/Borg.
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May 26, 2023 21:52
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namad posted:It's just sad that this game came out of nowhere without any telltale style PR blitz. Because apparently it not only looks and feels like a telltale game, it was made by many of the same people. And like I said, I think they really nailed it. I think it has a lot to do with the fact that telltale took on a bunch of licensed properties and stretched themselves too thin and sort of blew up their gravy train. Whoever paid for this to be made was taking a chance on getting the good telltale and not the bad telltale, so I understand why it wasn't getting much hype.
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May 26, 2023 22:06
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Dramatic Labs seems to be a fairly small team and I've never heard of their publisher Bruner House, as far as I know this is the first release for both. I'm guessing whatever they got out of Epic for PC exclusivity went towards actually finishing the game and a big PR push would've taken more. Of course that's where CBS should step in since it's their license, but
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May 26, 2023 23:36
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Delsaber posted:Of course that's where CBS should step in since it's their license, but I hope the game has enough success that someone at CBS notices but given the complete lack of marketing, I wouldn't be surprised if there are a ton of people out there who would love this game that will never hear about it. IGN had some videos out like a year ago when the game was still due in Q4 2022, and then there was complete radio silence until the devs announced the first delay, and then more silence as we approached the new April release date, when another delay was announced and the game received its May release date. I'm not sure I've ever seen a game from a major franchise like star trek get such pathetic marketing support.
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May 26, 2023 23:44
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Professor Beetus posted:I think it has a lot to do with the fact that telltale took on a bunch of licensed properties and stretched themselves too thin and sort of blew up their gravy train. Whoever paid for this to be made was taking a chance on getting the good telltale and not the bad telltale, so I understand why it wasn't getting much hype. That's accurate. Walking Dead made it big so they kept chasing these really expensive licenses and not bothering to invest in their software or work on the story but kept thinking that, like, Batman or Game of Thrones (which was a giant cluster) would catch lightning in a bottle again.
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May 27, 2023 00:11
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If you don't mind being depressed, Noclip's documentary about the end of Telltale is worth watching. I'm suddenly curious if anyone Danny interviewed ended up working on Resurgence. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-2nNksMBpg Also this doc is now four years old which is seriously messing with my sense of time
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May 27, 2023 00:26
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Dawgstar posted:That's accurate. Walking Dead made it big so they kept chasing these really expensive licenses and not bothering to invest in their software or work on the story but kept thinking that, like, Batman or Game of Thrones (which was a giant cluster) would catch lightning in a bottle again. It's too bad because I think they had way more hits than misses. The Walking Dead, Wolf Among Us, and Tales from the Borderlands were great and better than their source materials. Both Batman games were really solid and they even managed to do something interesting with the Joker. Guardians of the Galaxy was meh enough that I never finished it, and GoT was God awful and stupid from the get go so I never finished that either. I didn't finish all the seasons of the walking dead but from what I could tell it looked like it was starting to fall off a bit. I think their track record ended up being pretty good in retrospect, but the pace was unsustainable and their commitment to never spending any resources on the technical side of things made the implosion unavoidable imo.
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Minor observation only lore nerds about which I'll spoiler because be on the safe side I guess: Are they implying it's really uncommon and not the norm for Trill to go unjoined, because it was my understanding that only a few get the nod. Nili's take on what Symbiosis does to somebody is really interesting and not something we've seen before I believe.
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Dawgstar posted:Minor observation only lore nerds about which I'll spoiler because be on the safe side I guess: Are they implying it's really uncommon and not the norm for Trill to go unjoined, because it was my understanding that only a few get the nod. Nili's take on what Symbiosis does to somebody is really interesting and not something we've seen before I believe. Trill stuff I loved the idea too. I figure that most of Trill society aspires to be joined, even if only a few are allowed. (I think DS9 even gets into the idea that *way* more people could be joined, but the symbiosis commission artificially keeps the numbers down and suppresses that information. Nili being so vehemently opposed to the idea makes he an outlier for sure.
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This is a really good game, but I'm waiting for a patch or two. The glitches aren't game breaking but dialogue cutting out and subtitles not triggering are just damaging enough to the experience. It doesn't need a whole lot to get there and they probably could've just delayed it by a month and it would've been fine, and that also would've given it a chance to not get lost in the shuffle of all these extremely big games coming out (although I guess FF16 is out in a month so maybe there isn't a good time). Either way, the complete void of any marketing and it being restricted to a platform that no one pays attention to on PC probably doesn't bode well for its chances. I bought the console version and it runs mostly fine though I wish there was an actual PS5 version, but again there are just too many small glitches that I'm giving it another week or two before really diving in. Really, really cool game either way. Yeah it's a Telltale-like but I can't really understate how much more is going on here in terms of animation and atmosphere and interaction.
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Man the music is extremely Trek, I love it. This is straight up Berman era Trek, at least so far, I haven't played much past the first couple chapters. e: in a just world this would do well enough for CBS to throw a little money their way for a competent team of programmers who can actually do decent midbudget work. And maybe help get them some good cameos in future installments I don't think we are in that timeline though, what with paramount trying to avoid bleeding money. Have they even announced a Halo season 2? e2: okay I do have a complaint. I am not a fan of the curved nacelles Professor Beetus fucked around with this message at 19:55 on May 27, 2023 |
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Finished it this afternoon. Enjoyed the story and characters and it was a good length though would've liked more of an epilogue. lol that I didn't see Solano being bioformed until it basically got told to me because he was a bad captain before that too
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May 27, 2023 20:33
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Oh boy that romance subplot was clunky. I also disliked them trying to force the "captains all have their own unique catchphrase for embarking" thing, but I appreciated that I could give a perfunctory "engage" and leave it at that. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to fix myself some earl grey, hot, and get back to the game.
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May 28, 2023 00:21
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Thom12255 posted:lol that I didn't see Solano being bioformed until it basically got told to me because he was a bad captain before that too Yeah, that whole sequence was genuinely tense for me, because I had no idea if he was actually bioformed or just unfit for command, until after I'd already committed what would essentially be mutiny if I was wrong. Felt like a real iacta alea est moment. I also picked Cdr Westbrook as the person to ask for support, and that felt like a real gamble, too. Had to weigh his distrust of me as the unproven XO against his obvious concern for the well-being of the crew and his prior willingness to disobey the captain to protect the lower deckers at the beginning of the story. I have high expectations for him as my new first officer.
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May 28, 2023 03:50
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Professor Beetus posted:Oh boy that romance subplot was clunky. I also disliked them trying to force the "captains all have their own unique catchphrase for embarking" thing, but I appreciated that I could give a perfunctory "engage" and leave it at that. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to fix myself some earl grey, hot, and get back to the game. And I kind of wish Nili was an option because they had more chemistry, even if working with your romantic interest as much as she and Diaz do is a terrible idea.
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Professor Beetus posted:I don't think we are in that timeline though, what with paramount trying to avoid bleeding money. Have they even announced a Halo season 2? Yes, it was announced prior to the first airing of the first episode, and it wrapped filming earlier this month.
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Yeah, once your crew members start getting weird it can get really dicey and hard to make some calls, esp with characters who were already hard to trust Still not too far into it yet... I wanna play for hours uninterrupted, but sadly, my mom is hospitalized, and... well, it ain't looking good. So my attention has been elsewhere for a while... only playing a very little bit in the evenings
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Arc Light posted:Yeah, that whole sequence was genuinely tense for me, because I had no idea if he was actually bioformed or just unfit for command, until after I'd already committed what would essentially be mutiny if I was wrong. Felt like a real iacta alea est moment. I feel like all of this was a great narrative strength of the story. In a way telltale honestly never performed as effectively, EXCEPT, maybe in the wolf one they did.
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So the vibe I'm getting is that budgetiness and jank aside if I'm a Trek nerd I'm gonna like this. Imma bout to blow (fourty dollars).
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:So the vibe I'm getting is that budgetiness and jank aside if I'm a Trek nerd I'm gonna like this. That's a good way to put it. You let your love of technobabble and bumpy headed aliens carry you through everything else.
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:So the vibe I'm getting is that budgetiness and jank aside if I'm a Trek nerd I'm gonna like this. Yeah, that's about right. It doesn't run perfectly, has last gen vibes to its look, but like, you enjoy Star Trek? Try this out. It really does feel to me like playing a movie or something. And as I've said, the Resolute is gorgeous, esp the bridge (google if you don't believe me) Edit: that said, you'll probably get fed up with certain stuff like the tricorder things (hard to see some stuff), and the transporter pattern thing I had to do last night--I still am not 100% sure how i solved it. About 98%, but never wanna do it again to find out (though I will likely have to, I do wanna play it again as different kinds of character decisions, after all) Terra-da-loo! fucked around with this message at 05:07 on May 31, 2023 |
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I've been on a Trek game binge the last week or so, replaying a lot of old titles I played as a younger fellow that I had grabbed on GoG. Armada, Elite Force, 25th Anniversary and Judgement Rites. I honestly didn't even realize this game was already available to buy but I decided to pick it up today, and suddenly 3 hours of my night was gone. I'm playing with an XBOX controller I bought to use with my laptop, which is taking some getting used to as I don't really play 3rd person games, and certainly not with a controller (I haven't had a console since the first Playstation, which I played Gran Turismo on). Wiggling control sticks to complete tasks that aren't steering a car in Forza is a completely alien concept for me, but my brain seems to have settled into it. It wasn't until an hour in that I opened the menu and saw that it had a keyboard and mouse control layout, but I honestly don't want to try it now that I'm accustomed to the controller. Anyway, I'm liking the mystery in the story so far. The A/B style of gameplay and separate (but not?) plots. Technobabble. Terribly awkward romance. Trying to be a dick to some people and super nice to others. The Captain is a Train Guy and should probably be court martialed . It's all turbo-nerdy that makes this old goon happy. Haven't experienced any noticeable glitches, the graphics are just about where I'd want them for my laptop. I do feel like the story just kind of keeps rolling, relentlessly, without much of a break. I want to roam the ship and check out the lounges or poke the warp core for a bit before I have to get back to twiddling thumbsticks on things. All things considered, I don't regret spending the $40 dollars. If it drives interest to make more Trek games or spur patches or added content, then that would just be an added bonus.
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I’m waiting for the first appearance of this in a sale.
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Ironically, this game gives me Mass Effect vibes. I think it's the Unreal Engine use, plus the cutscene shakicam and general lens flare/shiny-ness in places.
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May 31, 2023 08:28
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Also Bedrosian and Liara are the same voice actor.
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Man, this is about the perfect format for a Star Trek game. I always thought while playing Mass Effect "make this 90% and it would be a great Star Trek game." I just wish the phaser sequences weren't so god awful. Like seriously what the gently caress is up with that floaty jerky nonsense? Is it any better on PC with mouse and keyboard?
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Professor Beetus posted:I just wish the phaser sequences weren't so god awful. Like seriously what the gently caress is up with that floaty jerky nonsense? Is it any better on PC with mouse and keyboard? I've only played with keyboard and mouse, so I don't know how much worse controller inputs are but... K+M still isn't great. It's easy enough to aim, it's just a pointless way of dragging out the game. Pop up, stun a couple of bad guys, drop back into cover until they stop shooting directly at you, repeat until the next cutscene is triggered. The actual aiming isn't hard, so K+M might be better there. I love the rest of the game enough to power through the shooting gallery sections, but I still wish they weren't there. Or, if we're going to have a shootout, just allow the player to choose one of multiple tactical options (charge head on versus trying to flank the enemy), kind of like a smaller-scale version of choosing attack pattern beta versus delta.
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For the people who've finished, is there ever a point where you can free roam the ship? For me, as a treat?
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Is this better than Star Trek: Klingon? So far, nothing has beaten a game where Gowron teaches me how to say things in Klingon.
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MikeJF posted:For the people who've finished, is there ever a point where you can free roam the ship? For me, as a treat? Sorry pal, but no.
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Rocket Baby Dolls posted:Is this better than Star Trek: Klingon? So far, nothing has beaten a game where Gowron teaches me how to say things in Klingon. Nothing can reach these heights - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pstDApgzto&t=189s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FjzFHyjhVI
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So I think I'm about halfway through maybe and I agree that this format seems like the perfect fit for Star Trek, with a focus on choice and dialogue over action. I've really liked the game so far, the only annoyance has been the abundance of minigames and the choice of blowing the clamps vs polarizing the hull. They say that the latter will shoot Diaz and his friend into the storm which seemed like a loving insane idea but then it turns out they have tethers and it was the "better" option and everybody hated me slampicking the alternative, except the shitbird captain. But the rest of the choices have been good about giving you clear options.
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