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I personally can think of a few other things related to this issue that count as needless bullying before I would go with asking people not to buy this game.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 15:56 |
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# ¿ May 31, 2024 08:17 |
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Tuxedo Gin posted:Saying "don't buy this game or you are a piece of poo poo that supports transphobia" is needless bullying of people who have zero power to change anything for the better. Exactly zero people could buy the game and JKR wouldn't notice because she's rich beyond most people's imagination and it didn't cost her anything to make the game. In an attempt to genuinely engage with this post, please read the OP. It goes into why this is different from Other Companies, why buying or platforming this game has negative impact, why this issue is unique and why, yeah, this actually does kind of matter. It explains this stuff and responds to the points you're making better than I can. But in a less eloquent way, yeah, the sad truth is if you buy or platform this game you are basically directly financially supporting transphobia. And the people who buy or platform. the game should have to hear that. That's a much less severe consequence than what the victims of transphobia have to go through. But in fairness, the people who buy the game have arguably the far far far worse consequence of having to play this game.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 16:06 |
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worms butthole guy posted:Yes, bur it could be way worse , look at how resetera handled it lol I'm almost afraid to ask.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 16:08 |
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The loving bad guy spell is Abra Kadabra except with the word cadaver in it and it's just "the target of this spell stops being alive". What the gently caress did any of us ever see in this drivel.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 16:20 |
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Control Volume posted:https://twitter.com/Dexerto/status/1622770368758050817 Man the negative attention that guy and his girlfriend got sure does suck now imagine if people were spending millions and millions of dollars to try and pass it into law.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 16:30 |
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Sonic Frontiers justified the open world concept by being sick as gently caress and being about a fast hedgehog.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 16:43 |
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Control Volume posted:Eastern european or japanese AAA open world games only. May we then live in a gamers paradise. Does Destiny count as open world I wanna keep that too.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 16:47 |
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chernobyl kinsman posted:yeah that's the one i meant Throwing space magic at ugly bug monsters and watching my number go up releases the happy brain chemicals.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 17:05 |
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smoobles posted:What you guys fail to realize is that Harry Potter nostalgia is the only thing keeping many depressed elder millennials from murder suiciding their families Look I'm sorry they chose the wrong thing to hyper fixate on when they were 12 but that's not our problem. I don't know what the correct answer is offhand, anime doesn't particularly seem to have been the answer either.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 18:46 |
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FireWorksWell posted:I don't know why I started browsing those comments, yikes. A couple white cis people being made uncomfortable is the worst thing in the world, I guess.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 18:49 |
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TheWorldsaStage posted:Bullying a charity stream is wrong, touch grass Donating to charity to try and defray backlash for platforming a game you know you shouldn't be platforming, but you're doing it anyway because you want the engagement is cynical and manipulative. They shouldn't be surprised people saw right through it.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 19:00 |
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Mnoba posted:you are just as bad as anti trans people posting like this, Anti trans people do stuff like make laws literally making it illegal to be transgender or receive gender affirming medical care for themselves or their children so I'm gonna have to throw the challenge flag on that one.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 19:05 |
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Oh poo poo you’re so right. We can’t let these streamers platform this Triple AAA game Wow, triple AAA? That's like nine As.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 19:12 |
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Mnoba posted:nah, i'm sure you and the 5 others that were looking forward to just posting edgy bullying garbage in this thread for awhile are getting upset enough so it probably counts for something I imagine. Again, I find the use of the word "bullying" on this particular subject just so very fascinating.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 19:16 |
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ErrEff posted:So who is your favorite Harry Potter character? Mine is Harry Potter. I went to Universal Hollywood a couple years ago and the rollercoaster was pretty dope. Mnoba posted:you probably find the ingredients list on a box of bran flakes interesting, you are spending your time poo poo posting a video game I'm here to poo poo post also since that seems to be allowed this isn't hard. You seem very determined to be relentlessly aggressive without actually saying much of anything or holding any kind of a position.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 19:21 |
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Sorry OP, we have ruled that everyone who dares to stream this game be locked up in high security prison I don't actually think anybody has gone to prison for streaming the game. I haven't checked very thoroughly but I don't think that happened.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 19:23 |
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LionArcher posted:https://twitter.com/hasanthehun/status/1623031151521857536?s=20&t=zE6BQGfHums2EB5NkoUWvw Sorta hosed up how he openly acknowledges that he has a huge queer fanbase right after saying the only reason he's not streaming the game is that he doesn't want to get bullied (hey, there's that word again!). Maybe you shouldn't stream the game out of support for that queer fanbase rather than out of, I guess, fear of it, dude. And theres the charity stuff again too. Do these guys not know you can raise money for charity without playing the game that directly benefits transphobia? You could even, I dunno, play a pro-transgender game while raising money for charity!
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 20:22 |
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The REAL Goobusters posted:What are the pro trans games OP. And you can’t say celeste Sonic Frontiers has a part where Eggman thinks he should ask his robot daughter what her pronouns are? TheWorldsaStage posted:People just want to play the wizard game. People want to watch the wizard game. The majority of people don't care about it on any level other than that Yeah most people care about an extremely generic action game, and the engagement to be made from said extremely generic action game than transgender people. I already knew that. Still sucks, though.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 20:31 |
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Slowpoke! posted:Sorry friends, but I really want to fly around Hogwarts on a broom You can find Quidditch World Cup used somewhere.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 20:34 |
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Mr. Trampoline posted:Guilty Gear Strive Oh man. So many Japanese experts suddenly coming out of the woodwork to explain no, this is what they REALLY meant! Feels Villeneuve posted:Hollow knight silk song Please, we're discussing games that exist not collective delusions.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 20:46 |
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GreenBuckanneer posted:https://twitter.com/BusterBladrMain/status/1622954023958765576?t=jGO_mgvR9qjEKtIcl2qsXw&s=19 It's fairly telling that the big image they posted boasting about all of their 9s and 10s was all stuff like Gamerz Weekly and Jim's Playstation Blog.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 20:51 |
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Endorph posted:someone mentioned xb3 and that one was really funny because the character's only referred to as they/them in the eng version. and then people tried google translating the jp script to prove that they were Gendered but since google translate just assumes gender when its ambiguous they then started arguing over whether the character was a guy or a girl. It's really, really important to a some people to believe that the entire population of Japan has no conception of anything outside the established gender binary.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 20:54 |
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the sex ghost posted:Her map of global magical schools where there was one school for all of asia Wasn't there one for all of America too?
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 21:02 |
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LionArcher posted:He just raised over 500k yesterday because of the earthquakes in Turkey. Trying to scold Hassan makes you look like a loving dumbass, when he’s just being honest. It's cool that he raised a lot of money for victims of an earthquake. I still think the sentiment he expressed on the game is kinda hosed up.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 21:13 |
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SweetBro posted:Which like all they needed to fix that is to have a Slytherin betray the Death Eater's and pull a "I've actually been on your side the whole time, check out all this McGuffin related info I stole that you otherwise had no reasonable way of accessing. Look at how Resourceful and Cunning I am." See, the problem here is. That's very clever writing and we're talking about JK Rowling.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 21:24 |
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Dawgstar posted:While Just Kidding claims that the Slytherin were the cunning this is never actually born out because they're all rock stupid and obviously evil. Or what MJeff said. Yeah the real issue here is that JK made four houses and gave all of them implied qualities that on the surface, made all of them equal to each other and strong in their own ways, which is really good world building. That one bit of world building with the four houses captured every little kid's heart and is probably the main reason she's a gajillionaire. But then she actually wrote the books and Gryffindor became the protagonists, Syltherin became rich, evil morons and Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff became [SCENE MISSING].
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 21:31 |
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Like even in the book where arguably the most important character besides Harry was a Hufflepuff and his death at the end is supposed to be the signal of a massive tone shift for the rest of the series, she couldn't be bothered to actually, like. Do anything with him. Or give him character traits. Woman was straight up allergic to making any characters besides Gryffindors matter even a little.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 21:36 |
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The REAL Goobusters posted:You sure do know a lot about Harry Potter Yeah, I read the books when I was a teenager.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 21:43 |
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CJ posted:Who are you talking about? The only character i can think of is Cedric Diggory but i don't know how anyone could possibly say he is the most important character other than Harry. He's pretty important in that book, or at least he's supposed to be. He's like the most awesome student in Hogwarts, at least according to the magic cup. Him dying should be a pretty big deal for the tone of the series but it's just kinda something that happens because of how underdeveloped he is.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 21:49 |
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the sex ghost posted:You like brooms huh well the rock's gonna tell you what you can do with that broom Apparently he had a stroke today.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 22:01 |
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Strategic Tea posted:The evil bigot occupies a uniquely front and centre position in this particular brand. Also I don't think game devs even get royalties, do they? Hopefully all of those bought 9s and 10s get them their bonuses at least.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 22:13 |
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The REAL Goobusters posted:I got some bad news for you. Not buying the game will also lead the billionaire to continue spending on that type of legislation. Buying or boycotting a video game is not direct action. That doesn't really contradict what they said.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 23:29 |
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LionArcher posted:Except I know several cops who work in child exploitation division, and their job is to nail pedophiles. Those are good cops, doing a good job. Commonly referred to as The Benson Exception.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 23:33 |
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RatHat posted:Rowling had nothing to do with the game itself Who do you think came up with Hogwarts?
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2023 23:35 |
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Dpulex posted:Lol you have awful taste. The series where one of the main dudes was so stupid he ignored the one rule about animorphing and became a hawk forever. Not even one of the cool hawks it was a lame red tail. What the gently caress, he didn't ignore it. Tobias made the intentional choice to stay a hawk for over two hours during a mission so he wouldn't expose his friends to the Yeerks. IT WAS A HEROIC SACRIFICE! TOBIAS IS loving AWESOME! I'LL loving KILL YOU! Anyway, I liked Pendragon. But the ending to those was super loving underwhelming. LionArcher posted:Aside from geeking out about Zelda tomorrow, this will be one of my last posts. If nothing else, I would like to say, some excellent poster/av combo from this guy in this thread.
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2023 03:18 |
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Instant Sunrise posted:the only good harry potter rpg already exists it’s chamber of secrets for the game boy color. fliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiipendoooooo
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2023 03:19 |
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lmao this ad owns.Pigbuster posted:We successfully bullied him out of doing it, lol. In his defense I don’t think he knew how stupid they were, it was early on This got to a point where brands would tweet WE'VE GOT A COOL SURPRISE COMING!, then they would have to follow up with "Holy poo poo, it's not NFTs, we promise." https://twitter.com/shonenjump/status/1483570191237672961?lang=en
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2023 03:23 |
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doingitwrong posted:That’s unfair to the trans allies who, through no fault of their own, found their names drifting out of the goblet of fire. They had no choice! "Goons, did you purchase Hogwarts: Legacy?" He asked calmly.
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2023 03:51 |
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LionArcher posted:A lot of posters in this thread need to watch this. Is this your attempt to being fixing the mistake that is your posts, because I think that's commendable.
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2023 16:31 |
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# ¿ May 31, 2024 08:17 |
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shut up blegum posted:How are we sure JK Rowling gets paid more if the game sells more copies? The thing to keep in mind about this and one of the things that makes Harry Potter truly unique is that JK Rowling has incredible leverage over all aspects of the franchise, probably the most of any living creator today. Whatever the best deal is, that's what she has. So if anything, it's probably most likely she got a massive rights fee up front and residuals based on the game's sales simply because that's what she would've been able to demand and if Warner Bros. didn't give it to her, they didn't get the rights, so they don't get to make the game. But even assuming that premise is true and Rowling has made all the money she's ever going to make from Hogwarts Legacy and no amount of copies will benefit here, there's two things to still consider. 1) She considers the continued success of the Harry Potter franchise to be proof that the public at best doesn't care about her views enough to prevent them spending money on it (which, sadly, appears to be true) and at worst proof that the public actively agrees with her views. She's likely not capable of self-reflection anyway, but spending money on the franchise just emboldens her all the more anyway. Just keep in mind, whether or not YOU think buying Hogwarts Legacy proves that you support JK Rowling being a transphobe and using the money she earns from Harry Potter to bankroll transphobic legislature, she 100% thinks that's what it means. 2) If the game is successful (which, sadly, it appears to be), Warner Bros. is gonna wanna make a sequel, which means another gigantic rights fee for Rowling. Buying the game means money for Rowling, one way or another, and she considers that encouragement to keep doin' what she's doin'. There is no way around that.
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