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It’s a testament to how good this game is that I went back to do a second play through to get more achievements that I missed I’m doing it on minimum difficulty
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I'm definitely heading to System Shock 2 after I finish the remake. 2 I actually played through a few hours of several years back, but I'm excited to really dig into it with the context and knowledge from beating 1. Just jettisoned Beta Grove, about to head into the horrors of Engineering.
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Jul 19, 2023 16:32
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Engineering is extremely spicy, if you have been hoarding magpulse ammo now is the time to use it.
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Jul 19, 2023 20:42
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I jettisoned my Skorpion in Beta Grove  I ended up with like 700 ammo for it after that lol
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Jul 20, 2023 00:22
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Red Rox posted:I jettisoned my Skorpion in Beta Grove There are at least two of them in the game, if that helps. One's in the Maintenance Office, and the other's in the hidden room in Storage that you reach by solving the Storage 5 gravity lift puzzle.
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Jul 20, 2023 00:42
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Skorpion is really fun. As are all the guns, really, even the pew pew zappers. Oh, maybe not mag pulse
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Jul 20, 2023 04:04
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sebmojo posted:Skorpion is really fun. As are all the guns, really, even the pew pew zappers. The magnum is so satisfying.
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Jul 20, 2023 04:05
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sebmojo posted:Skorpion is really fun. As are all the guns, really, even the pew pew zappers. I think the fact that the Mag Pulse was a pump-action gun with decent animations and effects helped endear me to it. I don't actually have any substantial gripes about any of the weapons when I think about it.
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Jul 20, 2023 04:12
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The basic 9mm minipistol is pretty anemic.
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Jul 20, 2023 04:14
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The Lone Badger posted:The basic 9mm minipistol is pretty anemic. Yeah, but you can go blap blap blap blap blap with it which is its own kind of fun.
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Jul 20, 2023 05:35
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I do wish there was a bit more reason to hold on to a pistol after you get your hands on a Skorpion.
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Jul 20, 2023 06:09
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:I do wish there was a bit more reason to hold on to a pistol after you get your hands on a Skorpion. Popping cameras
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Jul 20, 2023 06:11
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I started hacking all of the cameras to death; blowing them up with my mind bullets
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Jul 20, 2023 06:29
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I'll admit it, I completely forgot hacking was even a thing. Have not done it a single time.
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Jul 20, 2023 07:06
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You're not missing out. For most enemies, hacking just scrambles their targeting, but most enemies are also positioned in such a way that the only target they could conceivably attack is you. On the rare occasions in which there was more than one enemy they often wouldn't go for one another or would do a little damage before the hack wears off at which point they team up on you again. Basically, all you are doing is alerting an enemy and sending it on patrol at which point it usually finds you. Works great on autobombs though.
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Jul 20, 2023 08:19
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sebmojo posted:Skorpion is really fun. As are all the guns, really, even the pew pew zappers. God that sucked to use so bad it was the first gun I tossed. Shotgun too. When I get into 'shotgun range" with a rabid lionbear, I want the shots to do something immediately, not wait an eternity for the incendiary effect to kick in.
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Jul 20, 2023 09:40
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The upgraded mag-pulse rifle is decent against robots if you use two shots at once But honestly by the time you really need to use it a lot, the Skorpion and the AR are better options
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Yeah I always used the Mag Pulse with the doubled-up shot; probably helped that I found the damage mod for it about as early as I could. On lower difficulties I could see people largely skipping it though, especially if you have an abundance of ammo for other weapons. On combat 3 I kept most weapons in periodic rotation and stashed them when their ammo got low so I could use weapons that I had accumulated a decent stockpile of ammo for in the interim. Cream-of-Plenty fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Jul 20, 2023 |
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Just got blown up crawling through a vent in Engineering. One second, nothing, the next I'm dead. There was no proximity mine beeping so it must've been a trap grenade (the respawn screen cause of death was "explosive"). Just completely out of nowhere. Oh I guess it could've also been one of those explodey bots hidden in the vent and I just didn't see it.
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I went on a LONG quest last night because first I lost the Skorpion so I had to go get the extra one from maintenance but then I realized I needed the guy's detached head to open the office and then I couldn't figure out where I'd stashed the head on and on. Literal hour+ of running around the station but I finally have a Skorpion again so it was worth it in the end. It's funny I remember being like "as long as I drop stuff in obvious places, I don't need notes!" but I've managed to lose several guns now.
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Jul 20, 2023 19:54
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PantsBandit posted:places Found the problem
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I liked the Magpulse better when it was just a huge cannon that shot the big green orbs and didn't need upgrading to even be on par with the rest of the weapons. When you picked up the first one in Medical is was like your super weapon that you knew to conserve ammo on until you started getting more way later on.
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Jul 20, 2023 21:56
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It occurs to me that, while I wrote down the server room numbers, I didn't bother to write down which floor each was on. And I assume it's going to be a six-digit code. 
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Jul 21, 2023 01:07
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Yep, floors 1 though 6
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PantsBandit posted:It occurs to me that, while I wrote down the server room numbers, I didn't bother to write down which floor each was on. And I assume it's going to be a six-digit code. Just start plugging them in randomly--there are only 46 thousand possible combinations, which is a lot better than the one million possible combinations you'd have to deal with otherwise!
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Jul 21, 2023 01:37
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While dying of radiation burns
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Yeah I ended up having to revisit all the server rooms because I'd done the floors in weird order. Thankfully, you can make a tour of the floor in like a minute once it's cleared.
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Finished System Shock Remake. Didn't love the enemy gauntlet at the end and the final conflict with SHODAN was underwhelming but 90% of the game was excellent. Got SS2 started and just made it past the intro into the game proper.
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Similar to my feelings with SS2's final act--the Rickenbacker, the Body of the Many--I feel like System Shock loses some of its charm once you reach the Bridge (and maybe even Security?) I liked how your access to Citadel Station opened up as you progressed, but the final parts of System Shock are more abstract and linear in nature. I get why it happens thematically and canonically, but it's probably my least favorite part of the game.
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Jul 24, 2023 03:51
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At least in the original game Bridge was a spectacle because it had been turned into a Geiger-esque cocoon; maybe it was a pretty weak level, but thematically it was a great showpiece, at least by the standards of the time. I get why Nightdive did not attempt this, but it does make an already underwhelming level all the more bland.
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Just beat it, had a lot of fun. I was a huge System Shock fan when it came out, so it was really neat seeing everything redone. Some stuff I do wish they had changed, and some changes (like inventory tetris) seemed like adding complexity without adding substance. Cyberspace still sucks, and I still don't know what was going on in that final battle. With SHODAN's musings when you enter the 'big' chamber, I thought they would keep up the chatter and have her talk about how she sees herself and everything's she's done during the fight. Alas. So there are achievements for hacking enemies, but I never had an option like that, and did max out my components. Did I completely miss a command or something somewhere? I also saw mention of weak point identification but never saw anything like that either.
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Twobirds posted:So there are achievements for hacking enemies, but I never had an option like that, and did max out my components. Did I completely miss a command or something somewhere? I also saw mention of weak point identification but never saw anything like that either. It doesn't really do much because it just temporarily confuses certain enemies (but only if they don't detect you). This hacking thing also uses energy so it's not really worth it besides the achievement.
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The hacking really does feel pointless and vestigial and, outside of its novelty to destroy distant cameras, I didn't feel like it had any legitimate purpose (and even that was a stretch). Maybe if it genuinely compelled hacked enemies to actively track down other enemies and attack them? Or disabled them for considerably longer? But not as it currently stands.
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FlamingLiberal posted:It's really obtuse. You have to turn the component on and then hold Left-Alt to target an enemy Ahhhh, thank you. Something for the future 3/3/3/3 playthrough I guess.
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Jul 26, 2023 02:42
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:The hacking really does feel pointless and vestigial and, outside of its novelty to destroy distant cameras, I didn't feel like it had any legitimate purpose (and even that was a stretch). Maybe if it genuinely compelled hacked enemies to actively track down other enemies and attack them? Or disabled them for considerably longer? But not as it currently stands. You have to have LOS in order to hack the cameras anyway so it's just kind of a pointless function
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Hacking is nice for autobombs, it makes them detonate immediately and without drawing noise back to your location. For everything else, ranges from pointless to actively harming you; it has to be on an unaware enemy and when you hack they start searching in a small radius, which can draw them right to you.
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aniviron posted:Hacking is nice for autobombs, it makes them detonate immediately and without drawing noise back to your location. For everything else, ranges from pointless to actively harming you; it has to be on an unaware enemy and when you hack they start searching in a small radius, which can draw them right to you. Are those the little mousebot bomb things? I never see them before they're activated.
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They’re tricky to spot sometimes (especially with all of the colored lighting and glowing doodads in the levels) but OP is right, hacking is kind of useful to discretely dispatching them without firing a shot
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Half the time when I see those rolling bombs it’s because they are coming at me
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I'm about 4 hours into System Shock 2. Game owns, I've been focused on tech/guns so far, but now that I can repair my weapons and blast hybrids with a shotgun I've started spreading my points out. It would be really nice if there were a quick way to switch ammo types and psi abilities seem like a huge pain to manage, but otherwise it's aged well. I'm playing on steam deck and having just a bit of gyro makes all the difference. The game never got any sort of graphical updates, right? Imo it still looks fantastic, and way better than half life which came out just a couple years earlier.
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