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was an SS2 remake even on the table? I thought Nightdive was just going to do an Enhanced version like they did for SS1
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# ? Apr 15, 2023 09:35 |
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# ? May 6, 2024 02:19 |
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Latest release date set for end of this month https://www.pcgamesn.com/system-shock-remastered/release-date
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# ? May 12, 2023 16:31 |
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Are they still doing the SS2 enhanced edition?
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# ? May 12, 2023 17:46 |
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I can't wait for this to come out. What do the impressions of the people who have played the latest version look like?
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# ? May 18, 2023 00:27 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf4vp_ir4TI This trailer come out today. People who have played the backer beta have said the game looks good and is enjoyable. I enjoyed the demo enough to want to play it, so if they've improved it from there I'll definitely be buying it. There is also a separate trailer for SS2 Enhanced, but it doesn't really look like anything different has been done yet. Most of the trailer is just the original intro sequence - I think this was a kickstarter backer goal, and based on how long it took them to get the main product out, I'm amazed they bothered with this at all. If anything, System Shock 2 will finally be on consoles? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6mb44nDWj0
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# ? May 20, 2023 02:02 |
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Old Doggy Bastard posted:I can't wait for this to come out. What do the impressions of the people who have played the latest version look like? I felt pretty positive about the demo, and Night Dive has a good track record. It helps that we already know System Shock is a fantastic game and a classic. The demo gives me the impression that Night Dive did not change anything in a drastic way that would make this experience inferior, exact opposite, they managed to make a superior experience to the original. So goals met.
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# ? May 20, 2023 02:05 |
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Played the demo on Steam. I first heard about this remake so long ago I had forgotten about it. Anyway, here's my unsolicited thoughts. Melee combat feels floaty and weightless. I can't tell if I'm actually hitting the mutants half the time. It doesn't feel good currently. The shadow setting is weird, like it's controlling two things at once. It seems like it not only controls shadow resolution but it also controls fog, which is really dark and blankets everything regardless of the lighting. There's a LOT of lights, so it ends up looking weird when they don't seem to cast or bounce light at all because of this additional darkness. As it stands, I think the game actually looks better with low/medium shadows (other than the low shadow res) because the lighting isn't blacked out and it looks more natural. The fog setting doesn't seem to control anything. I've flipped through all the settings for it in various locations and couldn't notice anything difference in image whatsoever. Combined with what I noticed with the shadows setting at high/ultra seemingly adding fog to the scene makes me think some wires got crossed somewhere. The pixel effect is neat once I figured out what was going on but I thought my textures were broken at first. Turning the texture quality down from ultra straight up makes signage unreadable because of it, though. It'd be nice to get a setting that controls the intensity of this pixel effect. The UI font is really tiny and hard to read, and straight up impossible to do so in some places. I've ran the game at different resolutions and nothing helped. The inventory says to hold some button to read an item's description but I don't know what button because it's impossible to read what it is due to the font's small size. Other than those gripes, I did honestly enjoy what I played. The voice acting is pretty good, the music is nice, and the general vibe and aesthetic is cool. I'm looking forward to the full release now. I just hope a font scaling option is added.
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# ? May 22, 2023 13:49 |
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hosed up if they made the melee combat feel floaty, given that was one of the things the old demos really nailed, the pipe felt hefty & great to use.
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# ? May 22, 2023 21:43 |
aniviron posted:hosed up if they made the melee combat feel floaty, given that was one of the things the old demos really nailed, the pipe felt hefty & great to use. it's so bad. i'm constantly whiffing on attacks that feel like they should 100% land. super frustrating. not unfixable at least.
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# ? May 22, 2023 21:47 |
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Also that demo represents the beta version not the final one, they'd need to update it after the release of the game. People need a demo representative of the completed product.
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# ? May 22, 2023 22:43 |
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I’m so so tempted to preorder this but I’m also a bit wary to do it before the embargo ends. I just hope it’s not a bust.
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# ? May 27, 2023 12:04 |
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A review is out https://www.pcgamer.com/system-shock-remake-review/ 80/100, and generally positive with some caveats that it at times is too true to the original.
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# ? May 29, 2023 16:14 |
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lol i'm so going to need a walkthrough to beat this.
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# ? May 29, 2023 16:45 |
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Added some reviews to OP.
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# ? May 29, 2023 16:51 |
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Is it unlocking at the same time everywhere, or is there time zone shenanigans you can use to play it earlier?
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# ? May 29, 2023 16:59 |
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Steam doesn't do time zone releases, its out in 22 hours for everyone.
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# ? May 29, 2023 17:07 |
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I said come in! posted:lol i'm so going to need a walkthrough to beat this. You absolutely are. The good news is that a lot of the old GameFAQs walkthroughs still sort of work for the 2023 version; it's that faithful to the original game's layout. The exception is that in the remake, the various passcodes are all randomized on puzzle difficulty 2 or 3. There are also a couple of minor things in the game that aren't quite as much of a pain in the rear end in SS2023, like pixel-hunting for hidden switches. You do have to play a lot of RE4-style inventory Tetris, though.
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# ? May 30, 2023 02:53 |
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Can you set the passcode / puzzle difficulty to be really easy?
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# ? May 30, 2023 02:56 |
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I said come in! posted:Can you set the passcode / puzzle difficulty to be really easy? Yeah, it's got the 1/2/3 difficulty sliders from the original.
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# ? May 30, 2023 03:02 |
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One question about plot and/or game mechanics do you still have to find that dudes head down in the (IIRC) engineering level? I never figured that part out in the original.
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# ? May 30, 2023 03:25 |
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Vampire Panties posted:One question about plot and/or game mechanics You do, yes.
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# ? May 30, 2023 03:57 |
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Wanderer posted:You do, yes. I wonder if its the same thing IIRC the head is laying on the ground behind a door, and the door code was one of the only actually-randomly generated codes in the game I couldnt get the door open, and it wasn't like I could google it.
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# ? May 30, 2023 04:19 |
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Vampire Panties posted:I wonder if its the same thing IIRC the head is laying on the ground behind a door, and the door code was one of the only actually-randomly generated codes in the game I couldnt get the door open, and it wasn't like I could google it. In the remake, if I remember correctly, it's on the other side of an easy-to-miss crawlspace, in an otherwise-inaccessible part of Maintenance.
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# ? May 30, 2023 04:42 |
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what the gently caress there's a system shock remake out in 10 hours? i had no idea this was in the works. i never did play the original so i'm super down. hopefully this means we'll get a ss2 and maybe even a thief remake one day. i'd kill a taffer for a faithful thief (there's a tongue twister) remake with modern graphics
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# ? May 30, 2023 05:18 |
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Wafflecopper posted:what the gently caress there's a system shock remake out in 10 hours? i had no idea this was in the works. i never did play the original so i'm super down. hopefully this means we'll get a ss2 and maybe even a thief remake one day. i'd kill a taffer for a faithful thief (there's a tongue twister) remake with modern graphics There was Thi4f which had a different main voice actor, and it didn't do very well IIRC. Might as well just play the Dishonored series non-lethally since it offers the choice to do it without powers.
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# ? May 30, 2023 05:55 |
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TheMostFrench posted:There was Thi4f which had a different main voice actor, and it didn't do very well IIRC. Might as well just play the Dishonored series non-lethally since it offers the choice to do it without powers. yeah i meant an actual remake, same levels and stuff, just with a new engine, modern graphics and ui etc. i know about and skipped t4 and played the poo poo out of dishonored. i don't think you even really need to skip powers to get the thief feel since they're replacing tools like rope and moss arrows, invisibility potions, etc. Dishonored powers are a bit more op perhaps but it's not like you had to go through thief with blackjack only Wafflecopper fucked around with this message at 06:08 on May 30, 2023 |
# ? May 30, 2023 06:05 |
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Is this actually releasing
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# ? May 30, 2023 06:49 |
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I'm considering buying this. I've never played System Shock 1 or 2, but I'm a big fan of its immersive sim descendents like Prey, Dishonored, and Deus Ex. Looking at gameplay videos, the remake looks a lot more accessible, but I still see some things that might annoy me.
Maybe I'm overthinking; finally there's a relatively user-friendly remake of a legendary game older than I am. I'll still probably buy it.
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# ? May 30, 2023 07:43 |
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Truly interactive objects get a cross hair in the UI when you're close enough to interact with them.
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# ? May 30, 2023 07:49 |
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Unlocks in less than an hour
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# ? May 30, 2023 15:54 |
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It's out now
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# ? May 30, 2023 16:04 |
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TheMostFrench posted:Unlocks in less than an hour My download speed dropped to half when you started downloading it too.
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# ? May 30, 2023 16:10 |
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Something the PC Gamer review mentioned was that they wish there was a waypoint marker for the map, it looks like this was added at the last second for the launch today. Yay, I won't get hopelessly lost now because of my bad sense of direction.
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# ? May 30, 2023 16:20 |
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I said come in! posted:Something the PC Gamer review mentioned was that they wish there was a waypoint marker for the map, it looks like this was added at the last second for the launch today. Yay, I won't get hopelessly lost now because of my bad sense of direction. Well, there goes my last hesitation. Achievements are also visible now. I like to read the achievements list before buying a game because they give a useful cross-section of what is possible. I laughed out loud at "Look At You, Snacker". And the red Crow T. Robot icon. Spookydonut posted:jumped up to smash a tv off the ceiling, it fell down and smacked me in the head, 10/10 goty That is one of my favorite retrofuturist touches. In the grim darkness of 2072, there are only super-heavy CRTs! William Bear fucked around with this message at 17:20 on May 30, 2023 |
# ? May 30, 2023 16:25 |
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I really love how super immersive this game is. The switch in graphics style was a great choice.
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# ? May 30, 2023 16:34 |
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jumped up to smash a tv off the ceiling, it fell down and smacked me in the head, 10/10 goty
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# ? May 30, 2023 17:06 |
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I like how matter of fact the intro is. Hi, I want you to press the big button marked "DO NOT PRESS THIS IN ANY STORY ABOUT AN AI". Alright cool (computer message: you have hosed up tremendously) No frills required
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# ? May 30, 2023 18:30 |
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Something I wish System Shock Remake did was for keypads, if you have the code already in your logs, then it will pop up with the key on screen, or just auto input it. Setting the difficulty of puzzles to 1, and have mission waypoint markers shows as a thing that you can enable, but it doesn't seem to actually work during gameplay?
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# ? May 30, 2023 18:37 |
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My review: https://www.gameskinny.com/reviews/system-shock-2023-review-welcome-back-to-citadel-insect/
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# ? May 30, 2023 18:39 |
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# ? May 6, 2024 02:19 |
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Wanderer posted:My review: https://www.gameskinny.com/reviews/system-shock-2023-review-welcome-back-to-citadel-insect/ I dont agree with your opinion on the graphics, but otherwise this is spot on! Game is really good, but I personally would like more options on helping the player with where to go and what to do, in order to keep the pacing going smoothly.
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# ? May 30, 2023 18:42 |