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It's hard for lightfall hype to match witch queen hype because the 5.9 month season directly before it was funneling the storyline right into Savathun, who is also a character we'd been aware of and connected to for years and years, and the concept of "go into the throne world to topple the hive God" is something cool and good. 1 down, 2 to go, let's knock this butterfly bitch down a peg and then move on to xivu arath!! Compare that to "a city you've never heard of is harboring an artifact you've never heard of and needs to be rescued from the least popular enemy faction in the franchise"
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I think there is something really compelling about the high likelihood that something terrible happens to the Traveler but of course they can't spoil that in any of the pre-release stuff so all they can do is try and get the vibe across
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Feb 11, 2023 18:18
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Compare that to "a city you've never heard of is harboring an artifact you've never heard of and needs to be rescued from the least popular enemy faction in the franchise" I do agree somewhat with RocketRaygun in that we are running out of road to wrap up this conflict and now is probably not the time to be introducing new story elements. I am semi-intrigued by the idea of a civilization that had to survive the Collapse without the Light and thinks we’re a bunch of spoiled little bitches using it as a crutch, but I feel like that could wait until after The Final Shape and so far we’re not getting any of the gravity we could expect from a story named “Lightfall” for Pete’s sake. I don’t know, maybe in two and a half weeks I’ll go gently caress myself, at the end of the day all I’m complaining about is “the marketing isn’t spooky enough” I guess.
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Feb 11, 2023 18:46
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I'd like to hope they're doing something new and cool and they want it to be a surprise, like presage was, and they just haven't announced it.
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Feb 11, 2023 18:59
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:It's hard for lightfall hype to match witch queen hype because the 5.9 month season directly before it was funneling the storyline right into Savathun, who is also a character we'd been aware of and connected to for years and years, and the concept of "go into the throne world to topple the hive God" is something cool and good. 1 down, 2 to go, let's knock this butterfly bitch down a peg and then move on to xivu arath!! Witch Queen also introduced Hive Guardians, which was a really interesting addition to an existing faction and lore in general. The Tormentor seems like an interesting boss character for the “Witness” faction, but it’s being stapled to the Cabal
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Feb 11, 2023 19:10
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I started playing this game last week because my colleagues finally were able to buy a PS5 and the game is free. I don't understand most of what I'm doing, but I'm having a blast. There's so much to do, it's crazy.
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Feb 11, 2023 19:34
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Okay if you put together every separate instance of fighting against Hive Guardians, it would be what, thirty? Like I know I've killed several hundred hive void titan guys in Grandmaster Lightblade but that doesn't count.
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Feb 11, 2023 20:10
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:It's hard for lightfall hype to match witch queen hype because the 5.9 month season directly before it was funneling the storyline right into Savathun, who is also a character we'd been aware of and connected to for years and years, and the concept of "go into the throne world to topple the hive God" is something cool and good. 1 down, 2 to go, let's knock this butterfly bitch down a peg and then move on to xivu arath!! Neomuna feels like a way more exciting/interesting destination then the Throneworld. The fact that there's been a bunch of build up to it being tied to some golden age stuff is neat to me. Granted the destinations feel like they end up barely being anything in the long run, so who knows how much that matters.
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Feb 11, 2023 20:51
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I still want to see Lightbearer Hive in more content. They're fun to fight! Much more so than "oh boy it's another unstoppable ogre".
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Feb 11, 2023 21:15
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Oxyclean posted:Neomuna feels like a way more exciting/interesting destination then the Throneworld. The fact that there's been a bunch of build up to it being tied to some golden age stuff is neat to me. Really? Neomuna will probably be cool as gently caress, all Bungie's environments are, but the Throne World in Destiny 2 was really cool and alien. That's why it was so disappointing to have very little to do with the year overall. Plus... Jetamo posted:I still want to see Lightbearer Hive in more content. They're fun to fight! Much more so than "oh boy it's another unstoppable ogre". Exactly. They're honestly what I wanted when Bungie first announced champion enemies. They should have been way more prominent. Given the pattern of seasons so far, in that they use the locations of expansions previous, I feel like there will be more use of the Throne World and Lucent Hive. I hope so, anyway.
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Feb 11, 2023 21:24
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They briefly made an appearance in season of Plunder when the Lucent Hive got involved in getting Nezarak vessels, but yeah with the exception of Risen and the tail end of Plunder the Lucent Hive, and Hive Guardians, haven’t really been involved. Maybe they will be an upcoming season where they are the main enemy faction
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Feb 11, 2023 21:33
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I honestly predict we'll get a Witch Queen follow up season this year, like we did with Plunder and Eramis, and Seraph and Clovis. Maybe follow up on what's happening with Immaru, and Savathun's body - maybe a plot point to do with Fikrul, as that was a dangling thread as well IIRC.
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Feb 11, 2023 21:54
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I still want a raid CP where instead of a bossfight we have to fight 6 souped-up hive guardians, who put down a rally banner on the opposite side of the map when you do
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Feb 11, 2023 22:00
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Panderfringe posted:Really? Neomuna will probably be cool as gently caress, all Bungie's environments are, but the Throne World in Destiny 2 was really cool and alien. That's why it was so disappointing to have very little to do with the year overall. Plus... The Canals and some of the mission/strike areas of Throne World were cool - like all the areas with "structures" - but the other 2/3rds of the patrol space were kind of your typical bland dirt and cliff sorts of areas. Similarly, the Darkness city areas of the raid and its surrounding was cool too. But I do agree it was disappointingly underused. An urban environment is not something we've really got in a patrol space before - there was some urban areas in the red war campaign, but that feels like sort of it. EDZ is kind of just bombed out ruins and dirt and cliff areas.
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Feb 11, 2023 22:02
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SgtSteel91 posted:Witch Queen also introduced Hive Guardians, which was a really interesting addition to an existing faction and lore in general.
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Panderfringe posted:Really? Neomuna will probably be cool as gently caress, all Bungie's environments are, but the Throne World in Destiny 2 was really cool and alien. That's why it was so disappointing to have very little to do with the year overall. Plus... This is pretty much why I'm hyped. Witch Queen was cool for pulling poo poo that was in the background (or done sorta half assed, like seasonal Xivu) into the foreground and shining a big rear end spotlight on it. The art was incredible, the campaign was amazing, and we got a lot of fun story stuff. I will agree it feels like they underused the throne world a bit but, Jetamo posted:I honestly predict we'll get a Witch Queen follow up season this year, like we did with Plunder and Eramis, and Seraph and Clovis. ^ this is very likely, Immaru/Sav's body have been dangling for a year. Also I just really want any excuse to listen to Immaru hamming it up on comms frankly, he's more fun than Sav. Witch Queen was kinda sorta Taken King for D2, now I'm hoping Lightfall is going to be something totally new - we're kinda headed someplace not really referenced anywhere, with a totally distinct vibe very different than the golden age ruins and hostile alien territory we've seen up to this point and I'm here for it. (though as an aside, they loving nailed the Pyramid aesthetic, it is one of my favorites in the entire series, and that's impressive given the strength of their art team)
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Feb 11, 2023 22:05
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arsenicCatnip posted:I still want a raid CP where instead of a bossfight we have to fight 6 souped-up hive guardians, who put down a rally banner on the opposite side of the map when you do
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Feb 11, 2023 22:07
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If Witch Queen is D2's Taken King, that would make Lightfall D2's Rise of Iron?
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Feb 11, 2023 22:08
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Sylphosaurus posted:This sounds like a pretty fun take on a Horde Mode PvE activity, to be honest. I´m all for it! I'm still fairly surprised we haven't seen a Dares of Eternity type activity where there's two groups of Guardians 'competing' with each other in two parallel PvE arenas, where stuff they do on one side affects the other. ... wait that's just Gambit with the serial numbers filed off isn't it. Bobby Deluxe posted:If Witch Queen is D2's Taken King, that would make Lightfall D2's Rise of Iron? I explicitly didn't invoke that because I'm hoping very much no.
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victrix posted:I'm still fairly surprised we haven't seen a Dares of Eternity type activity where there's two groups of Guardians 'competing' with each other in two parallel PvE arenas, where stuff they do on one side affects the other. Honestly making Gambit more like DoE isn't a bad idea. Maybe 3 rounds with different stuff happening in each one? ...Wait a minute.
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Feb 11, 2023 22:10
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victrix posted:I'm still fairly surprised we haven't seen a Dares of Eternity type activity where there's two groups of Guardians 'competing' with each other in two parallel PvE arenas, where stuff they do on one side affects the other.
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Feb 11, 2023 22:37
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Gambit is what happens when everyone wants a horde mode, but the devs try to be clever and do a horde mode with a twist, to which everyone reacts "no gently caress the twist, we wanted horde mode."
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Feb 11, 2023 22:43
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Destiny has like 14 Horde Modes. People just want 2010 back; they don't actually want Horde Mode (horde modes suck due to our modern high tolerance for seratonin & dopamine)
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Feb 11, 2023 22:48
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Maybe I'm just not hyped for NeoGeo City because I know I'll haaaaate it by the end of the campaign and strand epilogue quests Go fetch 150 Scorn Helmets and do 5 Heroic Public Events
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Feb 11, 2023 23:07
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Honestly whoever's in charge of worldbuilding and story needs to go down the hall to the guy in charge of the grind and punch him in the neck.
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Feb 11, 2023 23:09
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I hope the new Lightfall Destiny means I don't get to use 1 loadout across 2 seasons to clear nearly every GM. I....might?....miss your HoIL Arc Titan with Arbalest, a match game/champ weapon and a burn matching LFR or rocket.
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Waroduce posted:I hope the new Lightfall Destiny means I don't get to use 1 loadout across 2 seasons to clear nearly every GM. Match Game is going away, and there’s going to be a lot more options for anti-champ with subclass ‘verbs’ being effective against champs, so there’s an effort to get away from a set loadout
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I want to understand what people mean when they say "Horde Mode" because I feel like someone just said 6 players vs 6 Hive Guardians would be a fun horde mode?
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The main thing about Savathun and other major elements is I don't think they would want to handle that in a season that goes away. You kind of need the biggest plot points to happen in expansions which are (now) stable, because build up and stuff works in seasons, but then they disappear. As a general rule I don't expect absolutely pivotal things to happen during seasonal stories. Setups, information, yeah sure. But essential information? Probably not. Eramis got unfrozen in Plunder, but that's a one sentence explanation for anyone who missed it.
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To me a horde mode has to have some sort of per run progression, preferably where you are building up some sort of defenses around a central location. Otherwise just fighting a bunch of enemies (a "horde" of them even!) does not particularly fulfil the joy promised by the term. Don't get me wrong, the stuff in destiny with big enemy density is great! But that doesn't mean it's something it's not. Honestly the fact that destiny has zero modes where you are making build choices that only last for the duration of the activity is kinda wild to me, feels like a huge opportunity space they just don't wanna touch.
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Feb 12, 2023 00:17
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Roctavian posted:I want to understand what people mean when they say "Horde Mode" because I feel like someone just said 6 players vs 6 Hive Guardians would be a fun horde mode? Gears 2 horde. Just you, some buddies, and guns. No dumbass twists.
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Will someone with Atmos help me out? I have a 7.2.4 system and suddenly, all gun sounds for destiny are coming out of the left surround instead of the fronts. Is everyone experiencing this?
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Feb 12, 2023 00:53
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Horde mode, have four waves of increasingly complex adds, then on the fifth a boss. Start at 5 below your light level, and then add 5 for every boss. You will 100% not be able to take out enemies 20 above your light level, even the best players in the world are gonna go out just because of how damage/resist numbers work.
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Feb 12, 2023 00:56
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Bobby Deluxe posted:If Witch Queen is D2's Taken King, that would make Lightfall D2's Rise of Iron? shadowkeep was D2's RoI then the original plan, BL would have been D3, witch queen would've been taken king the third, and now lightfall loops back around to being RoI again
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Maybe I'm just not hyped for NeoGeo City because I know I'll haaaaate it by the end of the campaign and strand epilogue quests If you've convinced yourself you're tired of the expansion before it's even released, maybe it's time to take a break? You'll have an entire year before any fomo kicks in.
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Mazerunner posted:shadowkeep was D2's RoI Was RoI bad or something? Comparing it to shadowkeep is dire
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ponzicar posted:If you've convinced yourself you're tired of the expansion before it's even released, maybe it's time to take a break? You'll have an entire year before any fomo kicks in. What? No. The planetary grinds are not a Me Problem, it's just their design template
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HaitianDivorce posted:I think there is something really compelling about the high likelihood that something terrible happens to the Traveler but of course they can't spoil that in any of the pre-release stuff so all they can do is try and get the vibe across I'm actually surprised the traveller shell isn't covered in graffitti and gang tags.
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DancingShade posted:I'm actually surprised the traveller shell isn't covered in graffitti and gang tags. IREN LORDS 4 LYFE
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