Shinjobi posted:

I do appreciate that they always try to keep the framing around serial killers as being pathetic weirdos deserving of humiliation and scorn as opposed to this otherworldly fear like these people are cartoon supervillains or something.

It's already been mentioned how stupid police often are, but even then serial killers are often caught by coincidence or galaxy brain idiocy undoing everything. They're not a James Bond super genius.

Coxswain Balls posted:

Hyrax Attack! posted:

For sure it also has the overconfident wrestler & the Pointer Brothers.

Tried watching the HBO show about the Golden State Killer, Patton Oswalt was trying to give his wife credit for solving the case and it veered between retelling their love story & describing every detail of how the killer dispatched a victim and I turned it off as it felt creepily voyeuristic. You’d better believe one of the My Favorite Murder hosts was popping in with commentary.

Cowslips Warren posted:

I mean I have read about serial killers for years, but I prefer the solved cases, and more of how they got caught, which very rarely has to do with the police doing their loving jobs. I admit I did enjoy the Dahmer show on Netflix, but I know a lot of people thought the ending was flat. Well dude, his ending was flat, there was no mass shootout with cops where only bad guys get hurt, and no snappy one liners, the dude was beat to death by a loving mop.

I don't listen to murder podcasts because it seems way more clickbaity than anything else. "So goblins, today I have a super tasty serial killer story for you! Gary the Scary wanted to have kids so he kept women chained in his basement! How non-like it that! And he fed them dog food! Anyway, back after a word from our sponsor, Temu.com!"

Cornwind Evil posted:

Like I said. Go after the 'less dead'. "No one cares" if someone kills a bunch of sex workers or gay teenage boys. Basically, don't kill white heterosexual people and you're golden for a while.

I speak as if such crimes are akin to trying to find good deals on shopping items or how to have a good hike, which, of course, it is nothing like. Such crimes are like any addiction: you will rapidly need more and more and eventually even the so-called 'most clever' ones will gently caress themselves over enough that even the police will be able to do their jobs. It's been well established by Last Podcast that eventually serial killers enter a 'berserker mode' where any care or study they have is tossed aside in an uncontrollable bloodlust and need to destroy. Ted Bundy is a shining example: he went from almost tactical captures of his victims to ending with rampaging through a sorority with a log (yes, he had technically already been exposed at that point, but still). One of the reasons that infamous Soviet serial killer Andrei Chikatilo managed to claim so many victims was that the Soviet system was SO incompetent at catching him (mainly because of the sociological pressure that serial killers did not exist in the great communist USSR, they were solely a product of the moral decadence of capitalism) that he was basically able to go through MULTIPLE berserker states over the course of decades.

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Theotus posted:

When have they ever done a weird podcast about murder?

Smugworth posted:

Theotus posted:

It hasn't been officially confirmed.

Theotus posted:

It hasn't been officially confirmed.

Nigmaetcetera posted:

They don't make murder podcasts, they make podcasts about murder. You make a murder podcast, you're getting arrested after episode one. Unless nobody watches it, which I suppose is a very real possibility.

Shageletic posted:

My Favorite Murder is the original hit true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Since its inception in January 2016, the show has broken global download records and sparked an enthusiastic and dedicated community of listeners, aka Murderinos.

The Grey posted:

My wife loves this one and I can't stand. It's women drunk on wine, swearing, making unfunny jokes, and using people's death for light hearted entertainment.

Why are there so many women into this stuff? There is that documentary on Netflix with that Louie Theroux clone guy, and he goes on a Jeffrey Dahmer walking tour in Milwaukee. The while tour is filled with women whooping it up.

Theotus posted:

I don't normally go in on true crime Podcasts either, but the first season of Serial was really good specifically because it wasn't any of those things. I liked it a lot.

The Grey posted:

I feel like there is a major difference between a serious investigative podcast like Serial and a yuk it up podcast like My Favorite Murder.

The Grey posted:

My wife loves this one and I can't stand. It's women drunk on wine, swearing, making unfunny jokes, and using people's death for light hearted entertainment.

Why are there so many women into this stuff? There is that documentary on Netflix with that Louie Theroux clone guy, and he goes on a Jeffrey Dahmer walking tour in Milwaukee. The while tour is filled with women whooping it up.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

i like my true crime either dark humored but actually education and not dickish OR pretty straight forward with lots of primary source material(not just interogation tapes) the ones i recomend cover that pretty well.

The Grey posted:

My wife loves this one and I can't stand. It's women drunk on wine, swearing, making unfunny jokes, and using people's death for light hearted entertainment.

Why are there so many women into this stuff? There is that documentary on Netflix with that Louie Theroux clone guy, and he goes on a Jeffrey Dahmer walking tour in Milwaukee. The while tour is filled with women whooping it up.

Das Boo posted:

Sometimes it's because women are so heavily on the receiving end of such violence. Reading about violent people can help you avoid the "mistakes" of others, like how hitchhiking went from extremely popular in the 70's to something you avoid at all costs today because of highly publicized cases like Bundy and Kemper. The Gift of Fear is considered a self-help book because it advocates instinct, details how predatory people think and operate, lists warning signs that someone is trying to manipulate you, and gives you ideas on how best to escape an escalating situation. There's even a section on how to handle stalkers. You learn about what killers target and what they avoid.

And then other women are drama junkies and think they could fix Alcala with kisses. Those women are gross. Maybe your wife is gross.

Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:

This argument p much falls apart as soon as you realize they habitually consume it like junk food

Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:

This argument p much falls apart as soon as you realize they habitually consume it like junk food

Shageletic posted:

Dudes love war movies. We're all fu ked up

slurm posted:

They're hammering very sheltered people with "the cops suck" all day every day which is great

StrangersInTheNight posted:

Anyway since I'm absolutely insane here's a list of curated investigative podcasts that are well-researched by actual journalists and who are respectful of the victims and the subject matter. Serial isn't on this list bc that poo poo is trash.

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Scuba-Diving YouTuber Finds Car Linked to Teens Missing Since 2000
A YouTuber who investigates cold cases found a missing Tennessee teenager’s car submerged in a nearby river. It is at least the fourth such discovery by amateur investigators in two months.

A YouTuber who uses underwater sonar equipment to investigate missing persons cases found a car belonging to two Tennessee teenagers who have been missing for 21 years, potentially bringing an end to the cold case.

It is at least the fourth time since late October that people who investigate cold cases on YouTube have dived and found a submerged vehicle belonging to a missing person.

The teenagers, Erin Foster and Jeremy Bechtel, both of Sparta, Tenn., were last seen on April 3, 2000, leaving Erin’s home in her 1988 Pontiac Grand Am.

Late last month, Jeremy Sides, 42, who runs the YouTube account Exploring With Nug, searched nearby lakes for a few days before turning his attention to Calfkiller River. Shortly before nightfall on Nov. 30, his sonar device showed that his boat was floating above a car-shaped object. He spent the night in his van, then dived to identify the car’s make and license plate number first thing the next morning. It was a match for Erin’s missing Pontiac.

Mr. Sides documented the discovery in a 20-minute YouTube video that includes his phone call to Steve Page, the sheriff of White County, to report the findings. In the video, the sheriff meets Mr. Sides at the site and expresses his thanks: “You just became White County’s hero.”

In a brief telephone interview, the sheriff said that divers recovered human remains on Thursday but that they had not been positively identified. “We do believe it’s them,” Sheriff Page said on Friday. “We found articles that came out of the car and was in the water that leads us to believe it’s them.”

Jeremy Bechtel’s father, Ron Bechtel, said that although the investigation was continuing, the authorities told him that they now thought Jeremy and Erin, who were 17 and 18, had been in a car accident.